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strongandbig
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
1) Not faked. Ask anyone who I talked to after I died in Noire. I admitted it was a little over the top shortly after that but I am legitimately annoyed I rolled town this game. 2) You're right that it was bad, but I was expressing my thoughts. I have zero issues doing that, as you can see from your third point. Why would I bother posting that I forgot something at all if mafia? You honestly think it's worth it for me as scum to risk people like you tunneling on something that appears fake?' 3) It has nothing to do with me not remembering the presence of multiple scumteams, it's HOW the presence of those multiple scumteams affects my read which I thought about while posting this. It was stream-of-consciousness. A scumteam in this game does not act like normal scum because they legitimately need to scumhunt, which affects the way you play. I know it would affect mine in that way. | ||
Oatsmaster
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I want you to be reasonable, which you are, as town. You are not being reasonable now WoS. If you are town man the fuck up, answer me and find mafia. Don't you fucking dare tell me I haven't been scumhunting/attempting to find mafia this game. I have scumreads on VA since nearly the fucking start, yamato has done dick all this game which means he probs scum (though it worries me slightly that he's somewhat of a popular side-wagon), FT likely scum due to his horrible opening posts. Rayn nothing I will do once you've gotten like this will ever appease you. You know and I know it. So keep pushing your retarded tunnel for the rest of the day. Either people will listen to you or they won't. I don't want to turn this into Persona D1, I'd actually like to be useful for the rest of today if town is actually REALLY fucking retarded and listens to you. | ||
Oatsmaster
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
VA attempting to be useful in the early game = scum. In most if not all games I've played with him, a trying VA means a scum VA (or one who contributes but his contributions are intentionally bad). A useless as shit VA likely means he's town. (See Noire) I will admit him fucking off for the last little while causes me a bit of pause, but his reaction to me attempting to get him lynched is a scum reaction in his case because he enjoys his scum play much more so than his townplay, is proud of not having been lynched as scum and so doesn't want this to be the first time. This is very meta-based I am well aware but I have played scum with Vayne. I am aware of how he works. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote: 1) Not faked. Ask anyone who I talked to after I died in Noire. I admitted it was a little over the top shortly after that but I am legitimately annoyed I rolled town this game. 2) You're right that it was bad, but I was expressing my thoughts. I have zero issues doing that, as you can see from your third point. Why would I bother posting that I forgot something at all if mafia? You honestly think it's worth it for me as scum to risk people like you tunneling on something that appears fake?' 3) It has nothing to do with me not remembering the presence of multiple scumteams, it's HOW the presence of those multiple scumteams affects my read which I thought about while posting this. It was stream-of-consciousness. A scumteam in this game does not act like normal scum because they legitimately need to scumhunt, which affects the way you play. I know it would affect mine in that way. 1) You know i can't do it, but fair enough. 2) Okay so why did you make a bad post without thinking it through first? 3) So how multiple scumteams affect to your read on me? And why did you go from rayn scum -- rayn town -- no, rayn might be scum? | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Don't you fucking dare tell me I haven't been scumhunting/attempting to find mafia this game. I have scumreads on VA since nearly the fucking start, yamato has done dick all this game which means he probs scum (though it worries me slightly that he's somewhat of a popular side-wagon), FT likely scum due to his horrible opening posts. Rayn nothing I will do once you've gotten like this will ever appease you. You know and I know it. So keep pushing your retarded tunnel for the rest of the day. Either people will listen to you or they won't. I don't want to turn this into Persona D1, I'd actually like to be useful for the rest of today if town is actually REALLY fucking retarded and listens to you. I think your read on VA is bad. I think your scumread on yamato might be correct, can you elaborate more on that? | ||
Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote: I've explained it about a hundred fucking times. VA attempting to be useful in the early game = scum. In most if not all games I've played with him, a trying VA means a scum VA (or one who contributes but his contributions are intentionally bad). A useless as shit VA likely means he's town. (See Noire) I will admit him fucking off for the last little while causes me a bit of pause, but his reaction to me attempting to get him lynched is a scum reaction in his case because he enjoys his scum play much more so than his townplay, is proud of not having been lynched as scum and so doesn't want this to be the first time. This is very meta-based I am well aware but I have played scum with Vayne. I am aware of how he works. Can you explain how he is being useful using the first page of his filter? Cause thats the problem I have with your read. He is useless as shit this game. | ||
raynpelikoneet
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
Cheesecake: voting koshi because yolo randomlynch Palmar: voting koshi no reasoning given Grack: says earlier in his filter that random lynch is good because it makes scum uncomfortable and leads to good analysis, but later votes koshi because koshi probably scum. Wos: voting koshi for rng lynch because TL towns suck. VE: had a scum read on yammo but switched to rng lynch when bh stopped pushing it after randoming koshi. I don't get the logic here. Tofu: voting koshi because rng lynch gives good odds of hitting scum? Shiao: voted koshi first after grack but says he's against rng lynvh but in favor of koshi lynch (where's the case) | ||
raynpelikoneet
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: 1) You know i can't do it, but fair enough. 2) Okay so why did you make a bad post without thinking it through first? 3) So how multiple scumteams affect to your read on me? And why did you go from rayn scum -- rayn town -- no, rayn might be scum? 1) Hmm...yeah I suppose you're right...I wasn't exactly considering how that might affect it. Alright well fuck that one then. 2) Stream-of-consciousness. I'm not worried about looking shitty as town, to me it's more important to get my thoughts across even if I can't explain them properly. 3) This one I can't explain. You'll just have to accept the fact that it's a bunch of stuff I thought about while I was posting all of this. I can promise you I am telling the truth, and if you want to ask me about it in postgame I can tell you then if you're genuinely curious. Marv asked me about my towntell on him in Noire and I happily obliged him once we were both dead (though I'm sort of regretting that since I STILL haven't played with scum marv before and that'll just make it harder for me lolol) | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
I also see the non-RNG case for a Koshi lynch. In addition to his huge anger, he's also like contributing and interacting a bit less than he did in GS Mini. That being said, I think we really have a slam dunk with yamato or potentially FT. Whatever meta reasons you guys may give for them (yamato always shits up the thread, or FT always gets mislynched D1) from an objective standpoint these guys need to be lynched. This is basically true. FT is not a realistic lynch option today, so I would like to advise all who are not on board for a Koshi lynch (for whatever reason) to join me in voting Yamato. ##vote yamato77 That being said, I find the circumstances surrounding WoS's unvote of Koshi to be highly suspicious. I don't buy his reason at all. WoS, until your vote is back on Koshi I ##FoS WoS. Your lack of faith disturbs me. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: WoS i read every scum QT of every game, always. Your read on VA is bad. As do I. He is scum this game. Trust. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:30 Blazinghand wrote: Hello everyone. Wow, Koshi seems to be putting on quite a show of "being mad". The fact that you unvote him for this WoS is totally weak. Are you really worried about Koshi's eternal hatred? Is there anything about his vitriol that he's more likely to do as town than scum? He could easily do this as scum. Get your head on your neck. I also see the non-RNG case for a Koshi lynch. In addition to his huge anger, he's also like contributing and interacting a bit less than he did in GS Mini. That being said, I think we really have a slam dunk with yamato or potentially FT. Whatever meta reasons you guys may give for them (yamato always shits up the thread, or FT always gets mislynched D1) from an objective standpoint these guys need to be lynched. This is basically true. FT is not a realistic lynch option today, so I would like to advise all who are not on board for a Koshi lynch (for whatever reason) to join me in voting Yamato. ##vote yamato77 That being said, I find the circumstances surrounding WoS's unvote of Koshi to be highly suspicious. I don't buy his reason at all. WoS, until your vote is back on Koshi I ##FoS WoS. Your lack of faith disturbs me. Koshi isn't scum, BH. People are really quick to try and dismiss emotional reactions as faking it but I've found that is often RARELY true. We got really fucked in Bluelightz for example because of stuff DrH did when replacing out---he was legitimately pissed AND he was scum. EVeryone always thinks everyone is faking shit. If anything I'm more inclined to start believing most emotional reactions are real before they are faked. I unvoted partially because I know were I in these circumstances I could see myself reacting the way Koshi is (and I'd probably be mad fucking pissed, as I've already stated in an earlier post), and secondly because as much as I'm really fucking aggravated with town and kinda want this RNG lynch to go through, it may just be making the shit towns situation worse, and no matter how much I try not to care, I can't fucking help it. It's going to lead to me being even more pissed by endgame probs, but so be it, that's mafia. The slow push on yamato scares me a little. I agree he looks way more like scum yamato in this game but the fact that there's been basically no resistance at all (though maybe this is due to alternate scumteam being on board lololol) gets my hackles up. | ||
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