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Blazinghand
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On September 01 2013 08:38 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm not saying you have to think I'm not scum-- I'm just saying, don't oppose AG's plan because you think I'm scum. Instead, explain to him whatever risks you think you percieve that he does not. Don't just say "I don't want the plan to happen" because you can't really stop me from following the plan. You can stop AG from using his power, but you have to explain why you, with your somewhat more limited knowledge of his role than what he has, think it's risky. Then, he'll take that info you've given it and combine it with his private knowledge of what his role does and comes to a decision. If that decision is different than what you'd expect, he probably just knows more about how his role works than the rest of us do, and we have to respect that decision. I am fine with AG's plan for the record. I am just worried about your confidence in going along with it.
Okay, that's reasonable. I am a tricky, wiley, intelligent, witty, brilliant player as scum, and am truly unstoppable. I see why one would quake in fear and awe at the massive intellect I potentially bring to the table for the scumteam. I understand your worry.
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On September 01 2013 07:47 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
MAH POST GOES HERE
+100 for this post. Disagree with the VA analysis as I believe his claim was legit rageclaim, but the rest feels spot-on to me.
I was starting to lose my scumread on kita too after the very beginning of the game. His "plan' in nuclear involved fakeclaiming a thing, pushing that he'd done that thing hard, messing up the thread for a bit, and eventually coming clean with a big wrapup. He stuck with that even under pressure. Here, his plan was essentially "be super pro town and then get shot," which is not exactly the most crafty plan. Yet he didn't stick with the plan here, and his play post-claim has never recovered into being a pro-town force. Do not like.
holy shit, hold up here as I'm reading.
austin just blatantly lied in this entire post since he figured no one would actually go back and read Nuclear mafia.
1. Never fakeclaimed in that game, I said I was VT very early on
2. care to explain the rest of this post?
This guy is either not town or a retard again, just like in nuclear.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On September 01 2013 08:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:
If AG's claim is fake, it's fake-- but the end result for the day will be the same: Geript is lynched. He's at 20 votes right now, and I'll be standing by right up until the deadline in case people start to swap off of him. If necessary, I will abort the AG plan and vote for Geript, but ONLY if it looks like the lynch won't happen unless I do so. Why are you so unbelievably sure that he is scum and will be lynched? Why this confidence? THIS is precisely why I take issue with your play. If you were truly town as you state why not at the very least humour me and others who were calling for reads earlier? (Although it's pretty much just me right now) If you are town then there is literally no downside to it.
I'd say Hiropro and shiaopi
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On September 01 2013 08:40 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:47 austinmcc wrote:On September 01 2013 07:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
MAH POST GOES HERE
+100 for this post. Disagree with the VA analysis as I believe his claim was legit rageclaim, but the rest feels spot-on to me.
I was starting to lose my scumread on kita too after the very beginning of the game. His "plan' in nuclear involved fakeclaiming a thing, pushing that he'd done that thing hard, messing up the thread for a bit, and eventually coming clean with a big wrapup. He stuck with that even under pressure. Here, his plan was essentially "be super pro town and then get shot," which is not exactly the most crafty plan. Yet he didn't stick with the plan here, and his play post-claim has never recovered into being a pro-town force. Do not like. holy shit, hold up here as I'm reading. austin just blatantly lied in this entire post since he figured no one would actually go back and read Nuclear mafia. 1. Never fakeclaimed in that game, I said I was VT very early on 2. care to explain the rest of this post? This guy is either not town or a retard again, just like in nuclear.
I don't think he's talking about you here.
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On September 01 2013 08:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 01 2013 07:47 austinmcc wrote:On September 01 2013 07:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
MAH POST GOES HERE
+100 for this post. Disagree with the VA analysis as I believe his claim was legit rageclaim, but the rest feels spot-on to me.
I was starting to lose my scumread on kita too after the very beginning of the game. His "plan' in nuclear involved fakeclaiming a thing, pushing that he'd done that thing hard, messing up the thread for a bit, and eventually coming clean with a big wrapup. He stuck with that even under pressure. Here, his plan was essentially "be super pro town and then get shot," which is not exactly the most crafty plan. Yet he didn't stick with the plan here, and his play post-claim has never recovered into being a pro-town force. Do not like. holy shit, hold up here as I'm reading. austin just blatantly lied in this entire post since he figured no one would actually go back and read Nuclear mafia. 1. Never fakeclaimed in that game, I said I was VT very early on 2. care to explain the rest of this post? This guy is either not town or a retard again, just like in nuclear. I don't think he's talking about you here.
OH derp I thought BH made that post for some reason. NVM
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On September 01 2013 08:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 01 2013 07:47 austinmcc wrote:On September 01 2013 07:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
MAH POST GOES HERE
+100 for this post. Disagree with the VA analysis as I believe his claim was legit rageclaim, but the rest feels spot-on to me.
I was starting to lose my scumread on kita too after the very beginning of the game. His "plan' in nuclear involved fakeclaiming a thing, pushing that he'd done that thing hard, messing up the thread for a bit, and eventually coming clean with a big wrapup. He stuck with that even under pressure. Here, his plan was essentially "be super pro town and then get shot," which is not exactly the most crafty plan. Yet he didn't stick with the plan here, and his play post-claim has never recovered into being a pro-town force. Do not like. holy shit, hold up here as I'm reading. austin just blatantly lied in this entire post since he figured no one would actually go back and read Nuclear mafia. 1. Never fakeclaimed in that game, I said I was VT very early on 2. care to explain the rest of this post? This guy is either not town or a retard again, just like in nuclear. I don't think he's talking about you here.
who else would he be talking about? Kita wasn't in nuclear nd im the only other person quoted.
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On September 01 2013 08:40 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 01 2013 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:
If AG's claim is fake, it's fake-- but the end result for the day will be the same: Geript is lynched. He's at 20 votes right now, and I'll be standing by right up until the deadline in case people start to swap off of him. If necessary, I will abort the AG plan and vote for Geript, but ONLY if it looks like the lynch won't happen unless I do so. Why are you so unbelievably sure that he is scum and will be lynched? Why this confidence? THIS is precisely why I take issue with your play. If you were truly town as you state why not at the very least humour me and others who were calling for reads earlier? (Although it's pretty much just me right now) If you are town then there is literally no downside to it. I'd say Hiropro and shiaopi
Did you read my analysis of either of those two?
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On September 01 2013 08:40 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:38 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 01 2013 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm not saying you have to think I'm not scum-- I'm just saying, don't oppose AG's plan because you think I'm scum. Instead, explain to him whatever risks you think you percieve that he does not. Don't just say "I don't want the plan to happen" because you can't really stop me from following the plan. You can stop AG from using his power, but you have to explain why you, with your somewhat more limited knowledge of his role than what he has, think it's risky. Then, he'll take that info you've given it and combine it with his private knowledge of what his role does and comes to a decision. If that decision is different than what you'd expect, he probably just knows more about how his role works than the rest of us do, and we have to respect that decision. I am fine with AG's plan for the record. I am just worried about your confidence in going along with it. Okay, that's reasonable. I am a tricky, wiley, intelligent, witty, brilliant player as scum, and am truly unstoppable. I see why one would quake in fear and awe at the massive intellect I potentially bring to the table for the scumteam. I understand your worry.
In fact I think the one thing we can agree on is that I'm a really smart, knowledgeable, effective, competent, sexy, well-muscled mafia player. Using this common point of agreement perhaps we can branch out to others?
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On September 01 2013 08:42 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:40 Blazinghand wrote:On September 01 2013 08:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 01 2013 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:
If AG's claim is fake, it's fake-- but the end result for the day will be the same: Geript is lynched. He's at 20 votes right now, and I'll be standing by right up until the deadline in case people start to swap off of him. If necessary, I will abort the AG plan and vote for Geript, but ONLY if it looks like the lynch won't happen unless I do so. Why are you so unbelievably sure that he is scum and will be lynched? Why this confidence? THIS is precisely why I take issue with your play. If you were truly town as you state why not at the very least humour me and others who were calling for reads earlier? (Although it's pretty much just me right now) If you are town then there is literally no downside to it. I'd say Hiropro and shiaopi Did you read my analysis of either of those two?
yeah i basically have a scumread on hiropro because someone (possibly you, maybe someone else) pointed out how scummy he was. Shiaopi looks super scummy though and as I have said, if we have 16 people on hand I'd be glad to shenannie over to him and lynch him instead.
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Erm, forgot to post in the voting thread earlier...still on page 74. Any reason I should vote anyone besides geript? Looks like votes aren't going to matter if geript's telling the truth...
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No, there's no particular reason not to lynch geript
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On September 01 2013 08:44 mkfuba07 wrote:
Erm, forgot to post in the voting thread earlier...still on page 74. Any reason I should vote anyone besides geript? Looks like votes aren't going to matter if geript's telling the truth...
at the moment keeping your vote on geript is optimal
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On September 01 2013 08:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 01 2013 07:47 austinmcc wrote:On September 01 2013 07:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
MAH POST GOES HERE
+100 for this post. Disagree with the VA analysis as I believe his claim was legit rageclaim, but the rest feels spot-on to me.
I was starting to lose my scumread on kita too after the very beginning of the game. His "plan' in nuclear involved fakeclaiming a thing, pushing that he'd done that thing hard, messing up the thread for a bit, and eventually coming clean with a big wrapup. He stuck with that even under pressure. Here, his plan was essentially "be super pro town and then get shot," which is not exactly the most crafty plan. Yet he didn't stick with the plan here, and his play post-claim has never recovered into being a pro-town force. Do not like. holy shit, hold up here as I'm reading. austin just blatantly lied in this entire post since he figured no one would actually go back and read Nuclear mafia. 1. Never fakeclaimed in that game, I said I was VT very early on 2. care to explain the rest of this post? This guy is either not town or a retard again, just like in nuclear. I don't think he's talking about you here.
about who is he talking then, hotshot?
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Vote for anyone it doesn't matter.
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On September 01 2013 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:41 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 01 2013 08:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 01 2013 07:47 austinmcc wrote:On September 01 2013 07:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
MAH POST GOES HERE
+100 for this post. Disagree with the VA analysis as I believe his claim was legit rageclaim, but the rest feels spot-on to me.
I was starting to lose my scumread on kita too after the very beginning of the game. His "plan' in nuclear involved fakeclaiming a thing, pushing that he'd done that thing hard, messing up the thread for a bit, and eventually coming clean with a big wrapup. He stuck with that even under pressure. Here, his plan was essentially "be super pro town and then get shot," which is not exactly the most crafty plan. Yet he didn't stick with the plan here, and his play post-claim has never recovered into being a pro-town force. Do not like. holy shit, hold up here as I'm reading. austin just blatantly lied in this entire post since he figured no one would actually go back and read Nuclear mafia. 1. Never fakeclaimed in that game, I said I was VT very early on 2. care to explain the rest of this post? This guy is either not town or a retard again, just like in nuclear. I don't think he's talking about you here. about who is he talking then, hotshot?
Read the post directly after that one.
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On September 01 2013 08:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
What is Axles power, do we know? I can't be fucked to read every post of his.
No I didnt say.
@BH VE and clarity.
I am neither good at me doing last minute shenanies nor guessing Gmists setup.
I have read my PM, that I am very good at reading that.
You need to use your judgement on whether it is safe for you to swap from Geript.
The risk as I understand it is if Geript is scum and scum can manipulate the vote by some small number so we need margin.
The other option that actual scum publicly jump off a fellow scum after you guys is I would have thought net loss for them.
TBMK other than the above, everything about this, including you guys using your judgement, is a win for town.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On September 01 2013 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:41 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 01 2013 08:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 01 2013 07:47 austinmcc wrote:On September 01 2013 07:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
MAH POST GOES HERE
+100 for this post. Disagree with the VA analysis as I believe his claim was legit rageclaim, but the rest feels spot-on to me.
I was starting to lose my scumread on kita too after the very beginning of the game. His "plan' in nuclear involved fakeclaiming a thing, pushing that he'd done that thing hard, messing up the thread for a bit, and eventually coming clean with a big wrapup. He stuck with that even under pressure. Here, his plan was essentially "be super pro town and then get shot," which is not exactly the most crafty plan. Yet he didn't stick with the plan here, and his play post-claim has never recovered into being a pro-town force. Do not like. holy shit, hold up here as I'm reading. austin just blatantly lied in this entire post since he figured no one would actually go back and read Nuclear mafia. 1. Never fakeclaimed in that game, I said I was VT very early on 2. care to explain the rest of this post? This guy is either not town or a retard again, just like in nuclear. I don't think he's talking about you here. about who is he talking then, hotshot?
there's a miscommuncation here. WoS thought *I* made that post when in fact VA made it.
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sorry guys been occupied. whens the lynch?
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On September 01 2013 08:46 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
What is Axles power, do we know? I can't be fucked to read every post of his. No I didnt say. @BH VE and clarity. I am neither good at me doing last minute shenanies nor guessing Gmists setup. I have read my PM, that I am very good at reading that.
You need to use your judgement on whether it is safe for you to swap from Geript. The risk as I understand it is if Geript is scum and scum can manipulate the vote by some small number so we need margin. The other option that actual scum publicly jump off a fellow scum after you guys is I would have thought net loss for them. TBMK other than the above, everything about this, including you guys using your judgement, is a win for town.
We have all already swapped to you and there are still 20 votes on Geript. We're safe.
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On September 01 2013 08:43 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 01 2013 08:40 Blazinghand wrote:On September 01 2013 08:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 01 2013 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:
If AG's claim is fake, it's fake-- but the end result for the day will be the same: Geript is lynched. He's at 20 votes right now, and I'll be standing by right up until the deadline in case people start to swap off of him. If necessary, I will abort the AG plan and vote for Geript, but ONLY if it looks like the lynch won't happen unless I do so. Why are you so unbelievably sure that he is scum and will be lynched? Why this confidence? THIS is precisely why I take issue with your play. If you were truly town as you state why not at the very least humour me and others who were calling for reads earlier? (Although it's pretty much just me right now) If you are town then there is literally no downside to it. I'd say Hiropro and shiaopi Did you read my analysis of either of those two? yeah i basically have a scumread on hiropro because someone (possibly you, maybe someone else) pointed out how scummy he was. Shiaopi looks super scummy though and as I have said, if we have 16 people on hand I'd be glad to shenannie over to him and lynch him instead.
I think it was VE who directed me to look at Hiro in the first place so maybe him. I have to re-look at Hiro though since I recall my conclusion was somewhat inconclusive by the end.
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