On September 01 2013 08:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why are Cephiro and Hiro so against axle's plan?
Why are Cephiro and Hiro so against axle's plan?
probably because they're both scum.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
August 31 2013 23:23 GMT
#1521
On September 01 2013 08:23 Clarity_nl wrote: Why are Cephiro and Hiro so against axle's plan? probably because they're both scum. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
August 31 2013 23:23 GMT
#1522
On September 01 2013 08:23 Blazinghand wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2013 08:23 Clarity_nl wrote: Why are Cephiro and Hiro so against axle's plan? probably because they're both scum. maybe they also have philosophical reasons but i'm betting it's the "ceph and hiro are scum" thing that's the real motivation | ||
Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 23:25 GMT
#1523
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
August 31 2013 23:27 GMT
#1524
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
August 31 2013 23:27 GMT
#1525
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
August 31 2013 23:28 GMT
#1526
On September 01 2013 08:25 Clarity_nl wrote: Well I'd like to hear the reasons from each of them respectively Because Blazinghand is almost certainly mafia and viscera is very likely mafia also. His power is obviously not a negative effect as he's openly requesting people to vote for him and doesn't seem concerned about backlash. Giving them any benefit/power is just dumb. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
August 31 2013 23:29 GMT
#1527
On September 01 2013 08:28 HiroPro wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2013 08:25 Clarity_nl wrote: Well I'd like to hear the reasons from each of them respectively Because Blazinghand is almost certainly mafia and viscera is very likely mafia also. His power is obviously not a negative effect as he's openly requesting people to vote for him and doesn't seem concerned about backlash. Giving them any benefit/power is just dumb. It's reasonably obvious to me that AG WANTS mafia to vote for him. Haven't you been reading? Or are you too busy in your scum QT scumming with your scumbuddies, scum? | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
August 31 2013 23:29 GMT
#1528
On September 01 2013 08:27 Blazinghand wrote: I think they'll lie though. They won't say "it's because I'm scum and I don't want the plan to succeed" they'll say something else Your confidence in shitflinging on the back of AG's play is cause for concern to me. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
August 31 2013 23:30 GMT
#1529
On September 01 2013 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2013 08:27 Blazinghand wrote: I think they'll lie though. They won't say "it's because I'm scum and I don't want the plan to succeed" they'll say something else Your confidence in shitflinging on the back of AG's play is cause for concern to me. I'm sorry What I mean to say is, I can't imagine a reason NOT to go along with AG's plan. It seems like he's aware of the risks and has chosen wisely. Geript is getting lynched anyways. His power won't help the people voting him, it seems to be that he gets information about those people. If you think I'm scum, you shoudl be EAGER for me to follow AG's plan, right? | ||
Felkyr
United States135 Posts
August 31 2013 23:31 GMT
#1530
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
August 31 2013 23:32 GMT
#1531
On September 01 2013 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2013 08:27 Blazinghand wrote: I think they'll lie though. They won't say "it's because I'm scum and I don't want the plan to succeed" they'll say something else Your confidence in shitflinging on the back of AG's play is cause for concern to me. ^ This. Also Blazing, if I would say "It's because I'm scum and I don't want the plan to succeed", THEN I would be lying. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
August 31 2013 23:32 GMT
#1532
On September 01 2013 08:30 Blazinghand wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2013 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote: On September 01 2013 08:27 Blazinghand wrote: I think they'll lie though. They won't say "it's because I'm scum and I don't want the plan to succeed" they'll say something else Your confidence in shitflinging on the back of AG's play is cause for concern to me. I'm sorry What I mean to say is, I can't imagine a reason NOT to go along with AG's plan. It seems like he's aware of the risks and has chosen wisely. Geript is getting lynched anyways. His power won't help the people voting him, it seems to be that he gets information about those people. If you think I'm scum, you shoudl be EAGER for me to follow AG's plan, right? It's just this. I still think you're scummy, and as such you shouldn't be this confident in following along with a town-aligned plan like AG's. Some of your actions resonate as being from a town perspective, like this one, but I still can't connect it to the fact that you refuse to actively participate in scumhunting in this game so I have to assume scum. | ||
cakepie
985 Posts
August 31 2013 23:33 GMT
#1533
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
August 31 2013 23:35 GMT
#1534
On September 01 2013 08:32 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2013 08:30 Blazinghand wrote: On September 01 2013 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote: On September 01 2013 08:27 Blazinghand wrote: I think they'll lie though. They won't say "it's because I'm scum and I don't want the plan to succeed" they'll say something else Your confidence in shitflinging on the back of AG's play is cause for concern to me. I'm sorry What I mean to say is, I can't imagine a reason NOT to go along with AG's plan. It seems like he's aware of the risks and has chosen wisely. Geript is getting lynched anyways. His power won't help the people voting him, it seems to be that he gets information about those people. If you think I'm scum, you shoudl be EAGER for me to follow AG's plan, right? It's just this. I still think you're scummy, and as such you shouldn't be this confident in following along with a town-aligned plan like AG's. Some of your actions resonate as being from a town perspective, like this one, but I still can't connect it to the fact that you refuse to actively participate in scumhunting in this game so I have to assume scum. Okay, so it's certainly possible, from your perspective, that I'm scum and I think I can stop AG's plan from working, but AG, the guy who knows more about his role than anyone else, who doesn't speculate but KNOWS what's going to happen, seems to be fine with it. He seems to WANT scum voting him. Maybe it's a vigi explosion shot and he's bluffing that it's not. Maybe it's cop checks. Maybe-- who knows? The point is, AG can judge better than us what to do, and he wants me to vote him, even knowing that I'm not playing the towniest game I ever had. And you have to admit, there's also the possibility (even if you think it's a slim one) that this is exactly what it looks like: I am town and I am following the plan laid to me by someone who claims to have a power. | ||
Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 23:35 GMT
#1535
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
August 31 2013 23:36 GMT
#1536
On September 01 2013 08:35 Blazinghand wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2013 08:32 WaveofShadow wrote: On September 01 2013 08:30 Blazinghand wrote: On September 01 2013 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote: On September 01 2013 08:27 Blazinghand wrote: I think they'll lie though. They won't say "it's because I'm scum and I don't want the plan to succeed" they'll say something else Your confidence in shitflinging on the back of AG's play is cause for concern to me. I'm sorry What I mean to say is, I can't imagine a reason NOT to go along with AG's plan. It seems like he's aware of the risks and has chosen wisely. Geript is getting lynched anyways. His power won't help the people voting him, it seems to be that he gets information about those people. If you think I'm scum, you shoudl be EAGER for me to follow AG's plan, right? It's just this. I still think you're scummy, and as such you shouldn't be this confident in following along with a town-aligned plan like AG's. Some of your actions resonate as being from a town perspective, like this one, but I still can't connect it to the fact that you refuse to actively participate in scumhunting in this game so I have to assume scum. Okay, so it's certainly possible, from your perspective, that I'm scum and I think I can stop AG's plan from working, but AG, the guy who knows more about his role than anyone else, who doesn't speculate but KNOWS what's going to happen, seems to be fine with it. He seems to WANT scum voting him. Maybe it's a vigi explosion shot and he's bluffing that it's not. Maybe it's cop checks. Maybe-- who knows? The point is, AG can judge better than us what to do, and he wants me to vote him, even knowing that I'm not playing the towniest game I ever had. And you have to admit, there's also the possibility (even if you think it's a slim one) that this is exactly what it looks like: I am town and I am following the plan laid to me by someone who claims to have a power. It's not that I think you can stop AG's plan for working necessarily (which IS possible) but since you disbelieve Geript's claim it's equally possible AG's claim is a fake as well and you could be gambling on that as scum. There are many many possibilities and I do take into account the possibility that you are town. As was recently stated, we shall see where the flip takes us. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
August 31 2013 23:37 GMT
#1537
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
August 31 2013 23:38 GMT
#1538
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
August 31 2013 23:38 GMT
#1539
On September 01 2013 08:37 Blazinghand wrote: I'm not saying you have to think I'm not scum-- I'm just saying, don't oppose AG's plan because you think I'm scum. Instead, explain to him whatever risks you think you percieve that he does not. Don't just say "I don't want the plan to happen" because you can't really stop me from following the plan. You can stop AG from using his power, but you have to explain why you, with your somewhat more limited knowledge of his role than what he has, think it's risky. Then, he'll take that info you've given it and combine it with his private knowledge of what his role does and comes to a decision. If that decision is different than what you'd expect, he probably just knows more about how his role works than the rest of us do, and we have to respect that decision. I am fine with AG's plan for the record. I am just worried about your confidence in going along with it. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
August 31 2013 23:39 GMT
#1540
On September 01 2013 08:38 Blazinghand wrote: If AG's claim is fake, it's fake-- but the end result for the day will be the same: Geript is lynched. He's at 20 votes right now, and I'll be standing by right up until the deadline in case people start to swap off of him. If necessary, I will abort the AG plan and vote for Geript, but ONLY if it looks like the lynch won't happen unless I do so. Why are you so unbelievably sure that he is scum and will be lynched? Why this confidence? THIS is precisely why I take issue with your play. If you were truly town as you state why not at the very least humour me and others who were calling for reads earlier? (Although it's pretty much just me right now) If you are town then there is literally no downside to it. | ||
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