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strongandbig what do you make of geripts lynchproof claim?
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On August 31 2013 07:25 strongandbig wrote:HEY VE! I went through your filter and looked at every post where you mention geript.Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 09:25 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 30 2013 09:22 geript wrote: Slam is scum. Like 1000%. Y U NO VOTE GERIPT? ##Vote: geript1000% is a pretty high percentage to not be accompanied by a vote - or at the very least some sort of supporting reasoning. bad five more of the same: + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 09:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 30 2013 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Well it's good to see that I was eagerly awaiting a fucking SNOOZEFEST. HI VE U MAF? NOT THIS TIME BRO VOTE GERIPT THO! On August 30 2013 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh shit Wave hur.
Wave vote geript cause he scum. On August 30 2013 10:59 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 10:57 MrZentor wrote: Is everybody okay with me deciding who we lynch today? I'm totally okay with you deciding who you want to lynch today. More than okay, actually. For my part, I'll be deciding who I want to lynch, thanks though. Right now it's geript. On August 30 2013 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote: I want everyone who isn't voting for geript to explain very clearly why they're not voting for geript, Thank you in advance. On August 30 2013 14:49 VisceraEyes wrote: Ala I'll be interested in your thoughts on who is scum whenever you have them. I really think you should reconsider not voting for geript though. He's like totes magotes scum. ' bad oh wait this might be real Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote: [snip] I think geript is scum. I thought he was scum based on how he entered the game, as I said, and I've thought that everything he's said since has been an anti-town influence on the game. If anyone disagrees with me, I'd love to discuss the matter. well, you don't actually provide reasons. your 1000% thing was obviously stupid and i see no actual comments on anything else geript has done. no idea why what geript is doing this game is different than the shitty shit he does every game. + Show Spoiler [talking with clarity] +On August 31 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote: Except it didn't - it ONLY drew MY ire Clarity. I'm the only one who had any issue with geript at the beginning of the game. On August 31 2013 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Geript hasn't played enough scum for me to guage how "ballsy" his scum play is. But I do know how ballsy his town-play is. And it's way more ballsy than the weak ass shit I'm seeing out of him this game.
Look at it like this: all he said was someone is scum. Like 1000%. Why would that draw any more attention to him than people trolling or people saying they haven't read their role PMs or people getting butthurt and ragequitting? these posts are basically irrelevant, clarity's defense was dumb and ve's responses to it don't matter either. no reason geript's opening whatever would or should have been especially notable, it was someone who says dumb things saying a dumb thing at the start of the game. + Show Spoiler [more bads] +On August 31 2013 04:33 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 03:15 geript wrote:On August 31 2013 03:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 31 2013 03:07 geript wrote: BH. You are so like 24 hours ago. Lynch slam. As arousing as the thought of lynching a readless, unreadable troll is, can you give me your opinion on others in the thread. Namely active people. Sure: I'd shoot BH, VE and WoS. I'd nuke Oats because he's both scummy and fun to nuke. But meh, I was done for today like idk 12 hours ago so DGAF activated. He says this as if any fucks were given up to this point. LMAO Still reading :d On August 31 2013 04:45 VisceraEyes wrote: EVERYONE SHOULD BE LYNCHING GERIPT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING IN THIS MATTER. Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 05:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 31 2013 05:38 Felkyr wrote: VE (or someone else), could you summerise your case on geript for me? He is talking shit, true, but does that make him scum? The fact that he's asking for a gun actually feels townie to me, or 3p. Would scum have the guts to do that?
Also, you made that BM remark earlier (not knowing if they had a win conditions), when it was being said that they were a scum faction. Now, it seems you were on the right track. Why that does not really condemn you, it makes me think you might be BM yourself.
On that note, onegu and stutter, could you clarify what was being said in the BM quicktopic?
I've followed the Persona game a bit. And what stands out to me is that Koshi was very active there as townie. While now he doesn't seem to do a lot, except talk about his item.
Geript just doesn't feel townie to me when he normally is very obviously town to me. He isn't doing anything that makes me feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, clarify peoples positions, anything. He's one of a few people that I have found I can count on to do that sort of thing (at least until they give up due to apathy of a lurky town) when they're town. And he's not doing that shit this game. So it's mostly meta. I could go through his posts and show you why I think they're scum motivated I suppose, but that's all conjecture and subjective. What I can say about it as a whole however is that it doesn't feel like he's trying to figure out the game or get more information or anything. He looks like he's just trying to appear active and not get lynched. Look at the way he defends himself against me. He's not even trying - he's just going "lol" every time. Why? If he was town and suspicious of me he'd be furious about my continued push on him and be calling for my head. He's doing nothing. [snip] Okay lets look at your history with geript. The most recent game you and geript were both in was boardwalk empire. you were scum. doesn't count. Then there's hydra mafia where you were hydras. doesn't count. Prior to that was the game and TL LX. In the game, you and geript were both town. you never mention a read on him. but you do talk about him a few times, so it's possible that you got a town read through his obviousness. Then there's LX where before you die: Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 08:59 VisceraEyes wrote: I can't write a will post guys. I'm too busy at work.
Don't lynch Toad TOMORROW. Make him contribute and tell you if he's scum in earnest, don't just sheep me/DocH/BC on our suspicions this cycle. If it's a bus, then it was orchestrated and that means there was a purpose to it. That purpose may be to implicate those immediately responsible for it (me/Toad) or those who perpetuated it (MS/DocH/WF). We just can't be sure without more info, so don't act on that premise yet.
Instead lynch someone who's more obviously scummy. I suggest
Hassybaby, grepit, ObviousOne, Chezinu. Geript gets mislynched. So you've played with geript in two games, both six or more months ago. One time you misread him and probably contributed to his mislynch. The other time you never mention what your read on him was. + Show Spoiler [more nothings] +On August 31 2013 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hi. I did not read the past 7 pages but BH is mafia. ##Vote: Blazinghand You should, there's some good stuff in there. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but prefer to lynch geript as it's kinda been my hobby this game and I'd really like him to die. Plz? On August 31 2013 06:26 VisceraEyes wrote: No you're throwing in your lot with the likes of geript. If he flips scum you're next, and I don't like that it has to be like that. On August 31 2013 06:29 VisceraEyes wrote: "the likes" as in "players playing like they're obviously scummy scum"
I don't like it because I like playing with you when we're on the same team and if we're on the same team, it will be sad to lynch you next if/when geript flips scum. On August 31 2013 06:39 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 06:30 Blazinghand wrote: Oh so you just think I'm scum, and you'd rather I wasn't scum. That makes sense. That being said, nobody's lynching me for at least the first few days of this game. I'm far too valuable! You got it. While we're engaged here, talk to me about things about other people you've noticed. I'm obviously not going to sway you on geript *wink wink* and a large part of your problem with Cephiro IS his issue with geript so that's not doing much swaying me in that regard, so what else is there? What of this WaveOfShadow talk that's going on? I'm starting to have doubts on my initial read but not enough to want to lynch him. It's mostly the lack of content when he's around. Which I'll admit, he's around a fair enough amount to clear MOST players - but Wave pretty good imo and I'm starting to have doubts. What do you think? I'm calling bullshit on your geript push, VE. you've been yelling about lynching him all game, but no one's actually pushed back and you've never bothered to provide any reasons why he's scum. you've just been yelling at people. This isn't how you push a lynch effectively, it's how you distract and divide a town. This is all fairly pointless. You don't like HOW I've pushed geript - but what are you going to do about it? You're not calling me scum, and you're not voting for me and you're not defending geript and you're not agreeing with me about geript. It says nothing about anything other than "Phooey VE! Phooey!"
Phooey right back my friend.
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okay then this happened wtf
On August 31 2013 06:50 geript wrote: VE. I'm very disappoint in you. Don't you know I'm unlynchable. Well here let me tell you. I'm unlynchable. Go ahead and try, but you're not much more than kuso little fish. You'll see when I damn well please.
IF GERIPT FLIPS SCUM IT DOESNT MEAN VE'S PUSH ON HIM WAS GOOD
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On August 31 2013 07:27 Clarity_nl wrote: strongandbig what do you make of geripts lynchproof claim? yeah that's kind of throwing me for a loop
i have to think about if we should lynch him just for that
cause what does it tell us if it fails? not much, he could be anything from unlynchable townie to one-shot lynchproof scum. but if it succeeds, it just tells us grushgeript isn't really playing, as usual.
but otoh how can you let someone claim that and just ignore it?
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On August 31 2013 07:27 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:25 strongandbig wrote:HEY VE! I went through your filter and looked at every post where you mention geript.On August 30 2013 09:25 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 30 2013 09:22 geript wrote: Slam is scum. Like 1000%. Y U NO VOTE GERIPT? ##Vote: geript1000% is a pretty high percentage to not be accompanied by a vote - or at the very least some sort of supporting reasoning. bad five more of the same: + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 09:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 30 2013 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Well it's good to see that I was eagerly awaiting a fucking SNOOZEFEST. HI VE U MAF? NOT THIS TIME BRO VOTE GERIPT THO! On August 30 2013 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh shit Wave hur.
Wave vote geript cause he scum. On August 30 2013 10:59 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 10:57 MrZentor wrote: Is everybody okay with me deciding who we lynch today? I'm totally okay with you deciding who you want to lynch today. More than okay, actually. For my part, I'll be deciding who I want to lynch, thanks though. Right now it's geript. On August 30 2013 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote: I want everyone who isn't voting for geript to explain very clearly why they're not voting for geript, Thank you in advance. On August 30 2013 14:49 VisceraEyes wrote: Ala I'll be interested in your thoughts on who is scum whenever you have them. I really think you should reconsider not voting for geript though. He's like totes magotes scum. ' bad oh wait this might be real On August 31 2013 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote: [snip] I think geript is scum. I thought he was scum based on how he entered the game, as I said, and I've thought that everything he's said since has been an anti-town influence on the game. If anyone disagrees with me, I'd love to discuss the matter. well, you don't actually provide reasons. your 1000% thing was obviously stupid and i see no actual comments on anything else geript has done. no idea why what geript is doing this game is different than the shitty shit he does every game. + Show Spoiler [talking with clarity] +On August 31 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote: Except it didn't - it ONLY drew MY ire Clarity. I'm the only one who had any issue with geript at the beginning of the game. On August 31 2013 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Geript hasn't played enough scum for me to guage how "ballsy" his scum play is. But I do know how ballsy his town-play is. And it's way more ballsy than the weak ass shit I'm seeing out of him this game.
Look at it like this: all he said was someone is scum. Like 1000%. Why would that draw any more attention to him than people trolling or people saying they haven't read their role PMs or people getting butthurt and ragequitting? these posts are basically irrelevant, clarity's defense was dumb and ve's responses to it don't matter either. no reason geript's opening whatever would or should have been especially notable, it was someone who says dumb things saying a dumb thing at the start of the game. + Show Spoiler [more bads] +On August 31 2013 04:33 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 03:15 geript wrote:On August 31 2013 03:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 31 2013 03:07 geript wrote: BH. You are so like 24 hours ago. Lynch slam. As arousing as the thought of lynching a readless, unreadable troll is, can you give me your opinion on others in the thread. Namely active people. Sure: I'd shoot BH, VE and WoS. I'd nuke Oats because he's both scummy and fun to nuke. But meh, I was done for today like idk 12 hours ago so DGAF activated. He says this as if any fucks were given up to this point. LMAO Still reading :d On August 31 2013 04:45 VisceraEyes wrote: EVERYONE SHOULD BE LYNCHING GERIPT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING IN THIS MATTER. On August 31 2013 05:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 31 2013 05:38 Felkyr wrote: VE (or someone else), could you summerise your case on geript for me? He is talking shit, true, but does that make him scum? The fact that he's asking for a gun actually feels townie to me, or 3p. Would scum have the guts to do that?
Also, you made that BM remark earlier (not knowing if they had a win conditions), when it was being said that they were a scum faction. Now, it seems you were on the right track. Why that does not really condemn you, it makes me think you might be BM yourself.
On that note, onegu and stutter, could you clarify what was being said in the BM quicktopic?
I've followed the Persona game a bit. And what stands out to me is that Koshi was very active there as townie. While now he doesn't seem to do a lot, except talk about his item.
Geript just doesn't feel townie to me when he normally is very obviously town to me. He isn't doing anything that makes me feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, clarify peoples positions, anything. He's one of a few people that I have found I can count on to do that sort of thing (at least until they give up due to apathy of a lurky town) when they're town. And he's not doing that shit this game. So it's mostly meta. I could go through his posts and show you why I think they're scum motivated I suppose, but that's all conjecture and subjective. What I can say about it as a whole however is that it doesn't feel like he's trying to figure out the game or get more information or anything. He looks like he's just trying to appear active and not get lynched. Look at the way he defends himself against me. He's not even trying - he's just going "lol" every time. Why? If he was town and suspicious of me he'd be furious about my continued push on him and be calling for my head. He's doing nothing. [snip] Okay lets look at your history with geript. The most recent game you and geript were both in was boardwalk empire. you were scum. doesn't count. Then there's hydra mafia where you were hydras. doesn't count. Prior to that was the game and TL LX. In the game, you and geript were both town. you never mention a read on him. but you do talk about him a few times, so it's possible that you got a town read through his obviousness. Then there's LX where before you die: On March 01 2013 08:59 VisceraEyes wrote: I can't write a will post guys. I'm too busy at work.
Don't lynch Toad TOMORROW. Make him contribute and tell you if he's scum in earnest, don't just sheep me/DocH/BC on our suspicions this cycle. If it's a bus, then it was orchestrated and that means there was a purpose to it. That purpose may be to implicate those immediately responsible for it (me/Toad) or those who perpetuated it (MS/DocH/WF). We just can't be sure without more info, so don't act on that premise yet.
Instead lynch someone who's more obviously scummy. I suggest
Hassybaby, grepit, ObviousOne, Chezinu. Geript gets mislynched. So you've played with geript in two games, both six or more months ago. One time you misread him and probably contributed to his mislynch. The other time you never mention what your read on him was. + Show Spoiler [more nothings] +On August 31 2013 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hi. I did not read the past 7 pages but BH is mafia. ##Vote: Blazinghand You should, there's some good stuff in there. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but prefer to lynch geript as it's kinda been my hobby this game and I'd really like him to die. Plz? On August 31 2013 06:26 VisceraEyes wrote: No you're throwing in your lot with the likes of geript. If he flips scum you're next, and I don't like that it has to be like that. On August 31 2013 06:29 VisceraEyes wrote: "the likes" as in "players playing like they're obviously scummy scum"
I don't like it because I like playing with you when we're on the same team and if we're on the same team, it will be sad to lynch you next if/when geript flips scum. On August 31 2013 06:39 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 06:30 Blazinghand wrote: Oh so you just think I'm scum, and you'd rather I wasn't scum. That makes sense. That being said, nobody's lynching me for at least the first few days of this game. I'm far too valuable! You got it. While we're engaged here, talk to me about things about other people you've noticed. I'm obviously not going to sway you on geript *wink wink* and a large part of your problem with Cephiro IS his issue with geript so that's not doing much swaying me in that regard, so what else is there? What of this WaveOfShadow talk that's going on? I'm starting to have doubts on my initial read but not enough to want to lynch him. It's mostly the lack of content when he's around. Which I'll admit, he's around a fair enough amount to clear MOST players - but Wave pretty good imo and I'm starting to have doubts. What do you think? I'm calling bullshit on your geript push, VE. you've been yelling about lynching him all game, but no one's actually pushed back and you've never bothered to provide any reasons why he's scum. you've just been yelling at people. This isn't how you push a lynch effectively, it's how you distract and divide a town. This is all fairly pointless. You don't like HOW I've pushed geript - but what are you going to do about it? You're not calling me scum, and you're not voting for me and you're not defending geript and you're not agreeing with me about geript. It says nothing about anything other than "Phooey VE! Phooey!" Phooey right back my friend. fine bro ##vote: VE
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Blazinghand
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VE I know you've got some stuff on your plate atm but if you have a moment I'm interested in what you think of my response
On August 31 2013 07:23 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 31 2013 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:On August 31 2013 07:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Ceph what are your thoughts on BH presently? I would also like to hear this I'd like your thoughts on Wave plx. No thoughts. I can't even remember what posts he's made this game. I do recall cora flipping out at him but that's it
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If geript is scum, isn't this a really bad time to claim unlynchable? Why did he do it as scum?
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Blazinghand
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On August 31 2013 07:32 Koshi wrote: If geript is scum, isn't this a really bad time to claim unlynchable? Why did he do it as scum? not to be all like on that idea, but there is the possibility that geript is scum but also isn't unlynchable-- so it's actually a fake claim
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On August 31 2013 07:31 Blazinghand wrote:VE I know you've got some stuff on your plate atm but if you have a moment I'm interested in what you think of my response Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:23 Blazinghand wrote:On August 31 2013 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 31 2013 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:On August 31 2013 07:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Ceph what are your thoughts on BH presently? I would also like to hear this I'd like your thoughts on Wave plx. No thoughts. I can't even remember what posts he's made this game. I do recall cora flipping out at him but that's it I don't like it - I asked you for thoughts and you were like "lolnope". What do you want me to say?
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Blazinghand
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On August 31 2013 07:33 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:31 Blazinghand wrote:VE I know you've got some stuff on your plate atm but if you have a moment I'm interested in what you think of my response On August 31 2013 07:23 Blazinghand wrote:On August 31 2013 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 31 2013 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:On August 31 2013 07:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Ceph what are your thoughts on BH presently? I would also like to hear this I'd like your thoughts on Wave plx. No thoughts. I can't even remember what posts he's made this game. I do recall cora flipping out at him but that's it I don't like it - I asked you for thoughts and you were like "lolnope". What do you want me to say?
Nothing, just that you don't like it.
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No S&B, u so bad. VE can read me far better than most. VE just not big brain to see what be going down. I show later.
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On August 31 2013 07:32 Koshi wrote: If geript is scum, isn't this a really bad time to claim unlynchable? Why did he do it as scum?
One possibility could be is that his powers have to do with people voting on him. I would imagine town has many other possibilities than just lynching to get rid of someone, thus it may very well be that he's baiting votes on himself to cause us trouble.
Or then he's just being in-your-face daring. In any case, it can be dealt with by night actions if we'd rather decide to do so.
Have you thought about giving me the item?
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On August 31 2013 07:33 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:32 Koshi wrote: If geript is scum, isn't this a really bad time to claim unlynchable? Why did he do it as scum? not to be all like on that idea, but there is the possibility that geript is scum but also isn't unlynchable-- so it's actually a fake claim But why, to bait getting lynched? Or was he expecting us to go. Oh, you are unlynchable, ok, confirmed townie!
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Blazinghand
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On August 31 2013 07:35 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:33 Blazinghand wrote:On August 31 2013 07:32 Koshi wrote: If geript is scum, isn't this a really bad time to claim unlynchable? Why did he do it as scum? not to be all like on that idea, but there is the possibility that geript is scum but also isn't unlynchable-- so it's actually a fake claim But why, to bait getting lynched? Or was he expecting us to go. Oh, you are unlynchable, ok, confirmed townie!
He could be hoping to avoid being lynched in hopes of being vigied instead, and his team has a mafia medic they can just use on him (since he'll be catching N1 bullets). Alternatively, he could be a weird 3p role that wants to get... shot? Certainly in the example of a non-lynchproof non-town geript there are many reasons he might want to just live through D1 and make it to N2.
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On August 31 2013 07:34 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:32 Koshi wrote: If geript is scum, isn't this a really bad time to claim unlynchable? Why did he do it as scum? One possibility could be is that his powers have to do with people voting on him. I would imagine town has many other possibilities than just lynching to get rid of someone, thus it may very well be that he's baiting votes on himself to cause us trouble. Or then he's just being in-your-face daring. In any case, it can be dealt with by night actions if we'd rather decide to do so. Have you thought about giving me the item? I'll give it to you or to Clarity. I'll give it to somebody who asks for it. Randomize if needed.
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You can give it to me Koshi. Maybe then I won't be unlynchable.
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Cephiro seems to think it's really useful on him and I have a townread on him so I think it's fine. If you don't trust him I'll take it though, there's no downside for me. I'll give it to whoever we agree on the next day.
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geript Why did you claim lynchproof?
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On August 31 2013 07:37 Blazinghand wrote: He could be hoping to avoid being lynched in hopes of being vigied instead, and his team has a mafia medic they can just use on him (since he'll be catching N1 bullets). Alternatively, he could be a weird 3p role that wants to get... shot? Certainly in the example of a non-lynchproof non-town geript there are many reasons he might want to just live through D1 and make it to N2.
Is this pure speculation or are you slipping? Let's assume he is mafia and mafia has a medic. Why would this assumed mafia trade information of their powers for one KP really? If I was scum, I certainly wouldn't give info about my team's roles so easily.
On August 31 2013 07:37 Koshi wrote: I'll give it to you or to Clarity. I'll give it to somebody who asks for it. Randomize if needed.
I'd prefer you didn't give it to anyone else unless they can make use of it in a pro-town way like me. Just saying.
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Ok sure. Cephiro first in line :D
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