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geript
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On August 31 2013 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote: I think we should try to lynch the unlynchable, worst case we nolynch which might have happened anyway in such a big game. I agree with this completely. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On August 31 2013 06:50 geript wrote: VE. I'm very disappoint in you. Don't you know I'm unlynchable. Well here let me tell you. I'm unlynchable. Go ahead and try, but you're not much more than kuso little fish. You'll see when I damn well please. Oh geript. I really just don't care whether you're disappointed in me. That you expect me to, enough to voice it here in the game, tells me you're just trying to manipulate me. Maybe I'm biased, but everything you do just gets more and more scummy. Maybe I'll just ignore you instead. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On August 31 2013 01:14 Cephiro wrote: Alrighty. It seems like there has been some interesting discussion going on. I very strongly think that unless the situation is extremely favourable for town, everyone except town should be killed. What I mean is, different 3rd parties are just as good as scum to me. geript Needs to be killed. Keeps begging for gun, has listed several people he would like to kill without proper reasoning. If he's town, he needs to step up and become serious. In my opinion, he hasn't shown any intent of playing pro-town. He tries to make some kind of contact with almost everyone, yet it's all non-committing. yamato77 A general bad vibe. Flip-flops on WaveOfShadow. It feels like he's trying to establish a connection without content, as he doesn't want it to be a raised issue. + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2013 22:31 yamato77 wrote: Calm down, WoS. I just told you I'm not that interested in you atm. It is impossible to say for sure yet, but a possibility is that he's trying to create a false sense of communication with a scumbuddy. There are many times when the scum player can be found not for his connections, but for the lack of them. VayneAuthority This single sentence alone (references to his opinion about me), is enough for me to raise my suspicions. If you're town, why would you want to kill someone that you think isn't scum? Especially without delving further into the matter, or not even mentioning if he thinks I could be a 3rd party? What I feel from this line is fear. And town does not need to fear me. There is a ton of people flying under the radar at the moment, but for now there isn't very much to do about it. I'll be more than happy to pressure them, but given what we have seen already there are more urgent matters at hand. @Koshi May I please have your item? My powers exceed it's. I will forward it to anyone that town wants the next day. Calls me scum for my interactions with WoS that look like scum interacting with scum, but doesn't think WoS is scum in the same post. Bullshit. Would lynch. On August 31 2013 01:20 VisceraEyes wrote: cakepie, mkfuba, randombum, TheRavensName With so many people who have done literally nothing this game, I'd be willing to bet my very life that there's at least one scum in this list. I almost added ObviousOne to this list, but he's done one thing - which is one more than these dudes have done. How do people feel about lynching into lurkers today? I'm for it. Better list: kita/Ceph/geript/Risen Not lurkers, but actual possible mafia. On August 31 2013 01:48 Cephiro wrote: See, you're not even trying to deny it. You're clearly NOT TOWN. Unless you provide a very good reason how you are of benefit for the town, you should be killed. Why should we keep anyone not town around otherwise? The underlined is an interesting reaction. I never called you specifically scum or 3rd party at first, until my latest message. All I said up to that point were my suspicions of you. You could very well be scum, but your responses are screaming "3rd party." And as long as you are anything but town, you should die for all I care. @VE: To answer your earlier question: I am up for a lurker lynch today if that is the only way we're going to gain majority, but I think we have much better options available we should go for. Still might be scum, is definitely obsessed with the idea that VA is 3P. Claim makes no sense from VA but this dude is definite suspect. On August 31 2013 02:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Hi. Can we lynch this guy? If I have to explain why, you are not town or bad. ##Vote: Felkyr Added Felkyr to list. I agree that his post looks like mafia. Good work CC. On August 31 2013 02:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I also want to lynch Risen because this is his entire filter. Says he has no idea what's going on and flings shit at random dude. Let's not lynch rather active people D1. POST OR DIE BITCHES Risen's opening posts are also horrible. CC best town. On August 31 2013 03:00 Blazinghand wrote: geript is your typical low-hanging fruit / lynchbait townie, as he often is. let me rephrase what you've said here geript: "keeps begging for a gun, has stuck his neck out and stated who he wants to kill, even if he hasn't fully reasoned it though. We're less than 24 hours in the game, and geript is being his usual non-seriosu stuff. He is being very active and trying to at least make some contact with every player!" well shit now he sounds like not a good lynch huh You know who's a good lynch? Cephiro check out dis shit Cephiro claims that he can't deal with a meta of trolls, but doesn't want to admit that to do otherwise is to policy lynch trolling. I'm not saying I'm not down for that, but if you gotta call a horse a horse and say "I dont' like geript's style, so even though I don't think he's scum, I want to lynch him anyways" if that's what your'e doing. His interaction with VA, although it seems at first to be the classic "overzealous townie" style, is in fact far more insidious. Take a look: OK so what is going on here? Well, VA is, well, kinda joking around and posted and acrostic saying "I AM NOT SCUM". Was it worth his time? No. Was it useful to town? No. Is it a scumtell? I don't really see why. The fact that he wrote "i am not scum" rather than "i am town" isn't like a scumslip or anything, that's just how he chose to phrase it. Cephiro is going all lou ferrigno on this guy for phrasing his claim to be town differently. This isn't overzealous townie, this is someone trying to play overzealous townie. overzealous townies cling to hard to certain pieces of evidence, go over the top, and push/tunnel hard, but almost always these pieces of evidence are pieces of evidence that make sense. Cephiro doesn't make sense. The fact that he is loud, or that he tried pushing a relatively defenseless player (geript) should not be mitigating factors. Let's lynch him. ##vote Cephiro Agree with BH here to an extent. Weary of wily scum BH. Kita still maybe scum, more interested in speculating setup that scum WOULDN'T know 100% about than actually finding mafia. Geript scum with that unlynchable claim for sure. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
You so easy to read as town Yamato. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On August 31 2013 07:01 geript wrote: Ok. Feel free to vote then. ##unvote ##vote geript my points vs ceph still stand, new evidence leads to update WRT prior assumptn. max probability scum lynch is geript | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On August 31 2013 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Yamato town for not pushing VE D1. You so easy to read as town Yamato. <3 | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On August 31 2013 07:04 yamato77 wrote: Caught up, things to reply to: + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2013 01:14 Cephiro wrote: Alrighty. It seems like there has been some interesting discussion going on. I very strongly think that unless the situation is extremely favourable for town, everyone except town should be killed. What I mean is, different 3rd parties are just as good as scum to me. geript Needs to be killed. Keeps begging for gun, has listed several people he would like to kill without proper reasoning. If he's town, he needs to step up and become serious. In my opinion, he hasn't shown any intent of playing pro-town. He tries to make some kind of contact with almost everyone, yet it's all non-committing. yamato77 A general bad vibe. Flip-flops on WaveOfShadow. It feels like he's trying to establish a connection without content, as he doesn't want it to be a raised issue. + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2013 22:31 yamato77 wrote: Calm down, WoS. I just told you I'm not that interested in you atm. It is impossible to say for sure yet, but a possibility is that he's trying to create a false sense of communication with a scumbuddy. There are many times when the scum player can be found not for his connections, but for the lack of them. VayneAuthority This single sentence alone (references to his opinion about me), is enough for me to raise my suspicions. If you're town, why would you want to kill someone that you think isn't scum? Especially without delving further into the matter, or not even mentioning if he thinks I could be a 3rd party? What I feel from this line is fear. And town does not need to fear me. There is a ton of people flying under the radar at the moment, but for now there isn't very much to do about it. I'll be more than happy to pressure them, but given what we have seen already there are more urgent matters at hand. @Koshi May I please have your item? My powers exceed it's. I will forward it to anyone that town wants the next day. Calls me scum for my interactions with WoS that look like scum interacting with scum, but doesn't think WoS is scum in the same post. Bullshit. Would lynch. Ooh. Please point out where I called you scum? Neither did I mention my thoughts about WoS with a single word. Talk about putting words into my mouth. I'm hoping you're just a bad town omgusing, but that is a very eager defense over something so little. Why do you think kita is scum? | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 31 2013 07:08 Blazinghand wrote: ##unvote ##vote geript my points vs ceph still stand, new evidence leads to update WRT prior assumptn. max probability scum lynch is geript Back on the musclebound soon... Unless I can think of someone I like better personally. So far, page 35. Still stands. To that fooh that called me a "readless" troll: EXCUSE ME. ##Vote: Cheescakeismz | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On August 31 2013 07:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Ceph what are your thoughts on BH presently? I would also like to hear this | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
I'd like your thoughts on Wave plx. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
No thoughts. I can't even remember what posts he's made this game. I do recall cora flipping out at him but that's it | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On August 31 2013 06:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: It wasnt a scumslip, I read it wrong. Do you think felkyr is scum or town? Geript? Was more interested in your reaction than the slip itself. As for Felkyr, he's new. That doesn't affect what role he was given, but it does affect how I read him (in that I have no idea how to). As of now I'm null on him, because I could see a newbie of any alignment posting like he has. From experience, I'd be fine with a vig shot on him because that doubt will probably follow me throughout the game. I have no idea what's up with geript. He's apparently an unlynchable, multi-use day cop XD All of that aside, he has all of these scumreads but isn't pushing them. He seems to have some agenda, so I'd say not town, but I also don't see what scum geript has to gain from basically trying to get himself lynched. Would be fine with a vig shot, would be fine voting him if I don't find anyone better today, but atm it almost seems like votes are what he wants, and this game makes me wary of doing anything that someone wants. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On August 31 2013 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Have you played/read other Aperture games? Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. And kitaman very well knows that. Rayn: Have you played/read other Aperture games? Axle: Nope (not recently enough to remember anything) Rayn: Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. Axle having just buzzed it while that is kind of what it @Rayn Why do you claim to know what it 'is' instead of 'was'? Why dont you wonder how grey might have changed it for this game? Rayn: And kitaman very well knows that. @Rayn I am not clear how what kitaman very well knows happened in previous games has an effect on your interpretation of what he said? I think kitaman did not post it did not post what he said about faction because he thought it was a brand a new thought to everyone, but because at least one person on the scum team will have said that in their QT (hence all the scum already know), and there might be (and are) town players like me who have not read aperture (recently enough) to remember anyth9ing about it. I also never played either portal for more than 5 mins, and its been a very long time since I last knew who Black Mesa was. it is thus a net win to tell any townies who dont know(me) the most important stuff from the last games. So from my point of view anyone pointing out obvious important thematic stuff from aperture games, portal or ... is fine with me. if that offends some players put it in spoiler tagged to the end of useful post. ta. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On August 30 2013 09:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Y U NO VOTE GERIPT? ##Vote: geript 1000% is a pretty high percentage to not be accompanied by a vote - or at the very least some sort of supporting reasoning. bad five more of the same: + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2013 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh shit Wave hur. Wave vote geript cause he scum. On August 30 2013 10:59 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm totally okay with you deciding who you want to lynch today. More than okay, actually. For my part, I'll be deciding who I want to lynch, thanks though. Right now it's geript. On August 30 2013 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote: I want everyone who isn't voting for geript to explain very clearly why they're not voting for geript, Thank you in advance. On August 30 2013 14:49 VisceraEyes wrote: 'Ala I'll be interested in your thoughts on who is scum whenever you have them. I really think you should reconsider not voting for geript though. He's like totes magotes scum. bad oh wait this might be real On August 31 2013 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote: [snip] I think geript is scum. I thought he was scum based on how he entered the game, as I said, and I've thought that everything he's said since has been an anti-town influence on the game. If anyone disagrees with me, I'd love to discuss the matter. well, you don't actually provide reasons. your 1000% thing was obviously stupid and i see no actual comments on anything else geript has done. no idea why what geript is doing this game is different than the shitty shit he does every game. + Show Spoiler [talking with clarity] + On August 31 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote: Except it didn't - it ONLY drew MY ire Clarity. I'm the only one who had any issue with geript at the beginning of the game. On August 31 2013 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Geript hasn't played enough scum for me to guage how "ballsy" his scum play is. But I do know how ballsy his town-play is. And it's way more ballsy than the weak ass shit I'm seeing out of him this game. Look at it like this: all he said was someone is scum. Like 1000%. Why would that draw any more attention to him than people trolling or people saying they haven't read their role PMs or people getting butthurt and ragequitting? these posts are basically irrelevant, clarity's defense was dumb and ve's responses to it don't matter either. no reason geript's opening whatever would or should have been especially notable, it was someone who says dumb things saying a dumb thing at the start of the game. + Show Spoiler [more bads] + On August 31 2013 04:33 VisceraEyes wrote: He says this as if any fucks were given up to this point. LMAO Still reading :d On August 31 2013 04:45 VisceraEyes wrote: EVERYONE SHOULD BE LYNCHING GERIPT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING IN THIS MATTER. On August 31 2013 05:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Geript just doesn't feel townie to me when he normally is very obviously town to me. He isn't doing anything that makes me feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, clarify peoples positions, anything. He's one of a few people that I have found I can count on to do that sort of thing (at least until they give up due to apathy of a lurky town) when they're town. And he's not doing that shit this game. So it's mostly meta. I could go through his posts and show you why I think they're scum motivated I suppose, but that's all conjecture and subjective. What I can say about it as a whole however is that it doesn't feel like he's trying to figure out the game or get more information or anything. He looks like he's just trying to appear active and not get lynched. Look at the way he defends himself against me. He's not even trying - he's just going "lol" every time. Why? If he was town and suspicious of me he'd be furious about my continued push on him and be calling for my head. He's doing nothing. [snip] Okay lets look at your history with geript. The most recent game you and geript were both in was boardwalk empire. you were scum. doesn't count. Then there's hydra mafia where you were hydras. doesn't count. Prior to that was the game and TL LX. In the game, you and geript were both town. you never mention a read on him. but you do talk about him a few times, so it's possible that you got a town read through his obviousness. Then there's LX where before you die: On March 01 2013 08:59 VisceraEyes wrote: I can't write a will post guys. I'm too busy at work. Don't lynch Toad TOMORROW. Make him contribute and tell you if he's scum in earnest, don't just sheep me/DocH/BC on our suspicions this cycle. If it's a bus, then it was orchestrated and that means there was a purpose to it. That purpose may be to implicate those immediately responsible for it (me/Toad) or those who perpetuated it (MS/DocH/WF). We just can't be sure without more info, so don't act on that premise yet. Instead lynch someone who's more obviously scummy. I suggest Hassybaby, grepit, ObviousOne, Chezinu. Geript gets mislynched. So you've played with geript in two games, both six or more months ago. One time you misread him and probably contributed to his mislynch. The other time you never mention what your read on him was. + Show Spoiler [more nothings] + On August 31 2013 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote: You should, there's some good stuff in there. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but prefer to lynch geript as it's kinda been my hobby this game and I'd really like him to die. Plz? On August 31 2013 06:26 VisceraEyes wrote: No you're throwing in your lot with the likes of geript. If he flips scum you're next, and I don't like that it has to be like that. On August 31 2013 06:29 VisceraEyes wrote: "the likes" as in "players playing like they're obviously scummy scum" I don't like it because I like playing with you when we're on the same team and if we're on the same team, it will be sad to lynch you next if/when geript flips scum. On August 31 2013 06:39 VisceraEyes wrote: You got it. While we're engaged here, talk to me about things about other people you've noticed. I'm obviously not going to sway you on geript *wink wink* and a large part of your problem with Cephiro IS his issue with geript so that's not doing much swaying me in that regard, so what else is there? What of this WaveOfShadow talk that's going on? I'm starting to have doubts on my initial read but not enough to want to lynch him. It's mostly the lack of content when he's around. Which I'll admit, he's around a fair enough amount to clear MOST players - but Wave pretty good imo and I'm starting to have doubts. What do you think? I'm calling bullshit on your geript push, VE. you've been yelling about lynching him all game, but no one's actually pushed back and you've never bothered to provide any reasons why he's scum. you've just been yelling at people. This isn't how you push a lynch effectively, it's how you distract and divide a town. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
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