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On August 31 2013 07:58 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:44 HiroPro wrote:I think geript has no idea what he's doing (yes I'm well aware that he's played a number of games). He's seen other people do nothing, antagonize other players in the games, yet not be lynched and thinks that he can do the same. The post where he claims "unlynchable" strikes me in the same vein - it's a joke post just designed to annoy. I don't see anything about his play that suggests specifically that he's mafia other than that he hasn't attempted to scumhunt in any manner (which can honestly be said about half the thread). Furthermore, BH's play right now is striking me as very opportunistic: On August 31 2013 07:08 Blazinghand wrote:On August 31 2013 07:01 geript wrote:
Ok. Feel free to vote then. ##unvote
##vote geriptmy points vs ceph still stand, new evidence leads to update WRT prior assumptn. max probability scum lynch is geript This post in particular appears very suspicious. There's no evidence to indicate that BH had any prior suspicion of geript and he doesn't even attempt to offer any sort of reason for lynching geript. Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment). Why is BH's first response to simply just throw down a vote? Why is he so quick to abandon a case on Cephiro that has some sort of reasoning to just blindly go "he said to vote him, LET'S DO IT!" Think about what I said earlier about BH's play (if you haven't read my earlier post on him, go back and do it, think about what I'm saying, read between the lines, and don't just go "oh he's roleplaying, guess I should ignore him"). Be Strong. Be Brown. Vote BH. Why does this apply to BH but not to WoS or myself?
Because neither of you have actually voted for geript, haven't completely abandoned your big case on someone else, and haven't struck me as suspicious before this? Come on clarity, think -_-
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On August 31 2013 07:58 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:55 HiroPro wrote:On August 31 2013 07:54 Cephiro wrote:
@HiroPro
Which players are brown? Clarity and strong. I haven't found the others yet, but I will! Would you mind if I received the item? I think we can work together. You seem to hate red as much as I do. Who would you kill if your target was to be Aperture Science?
I think it's fairly obvious that I want to kill BH right now -_-
I'd prefer to get the item first.
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On August 31 2013 08:00 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:55 HiroPro wrote:On August 31 2013 07:54 Cephiro wrote:
@HiroPro
Which players are brown? Clarity and strong. I haven't found the others yet, but I will! what?
hehe, don't worry. Just Be Strong, Be Brave.
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On August 31 2013 08:05 HiroPro wrote:
I think it's fairly obvious that I want to kill BH right now -_-
I'd prefer to get the item first.
Assumed so, wanted to make sure. Any other targets?
I am thinking you would use the item for good, but of course the safest choice for me is to vouch for myself.
Let us assume a situation where you are given this "Null Talisman". You must have powers that either use it or are stronger than it. You wouldn't want it otherwise. Do you want this specific item, or are you fine any random item? If you are given the item, would you be able to eliminate a target in exchange?
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OO needs to get in here and make me think he's not scum...because right now I'm not thinking that.
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meh i guess we're lynching geript then
##vote and things like that
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On August 31 2013 07:44 HiroPro wrote:I think geript has no idea what he's doing (yes I'm well aware that he's played a number of games). He's seen other people do nothing, antagonize other players in the games, yet not be lynched and thinks that he can do the same. The post where he claims "unlynchable" strikes me in the same vein - it's a joke post just designed to annoy. I don't see anything about his play that suggests specifically that he's mafia other than that he hasn't attempted to scumhunt in any manner (which can honestly be said about half the thread). Furthermore, BH's play right now is striking me as very opportunistic: Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:08 Blazinghand wrote:On August 31 2013 07:01 geript wrote:
Ok. Feel free to vote then. ##unvote
##vote geriptmy points vs ceph still stand, new evidence leads to update WRT prior assumptn. max probability scum lynch is geript This post in particular appears very suspicious. There's no evidence to indicate that BH had any prior suspicion of geript and he doesn't even attempt to offer any sort of reason for lynching geript. Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment). Why is BH's first response to simply just throw down a vote? Why is he so quick to abandon a case on Cephiro that has some sort of reasoning to just blindly go "he said to vote him, LET'S DO IT!" Think about what I said earlier about BH's play (if you haven't read my earlier post on him, go back and do it, think about what I'm saying, read between the lines, and don't just go "oh he's roleplaying, guess I should ignore him"). Be Strong. Be Brown. Vote BH.
If anything seems opportunistic to me it's this post itself. You've been targeting BH the whole game, with no clear reason or explanation (at least for me). Most of your talk is weird stuff ("roleplaying"?). He made ripples and that's why you lynch him? Can you explain to me what is between your lines?
Now suddenly there is a post that must be normal and convincing for us. Several people have voted for geript, also after his claim. And they have explained why. Why is HIS vote so weird?
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On August 31 2013 08:04 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:58 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 31 2013 07:44 HiroPro wrote:I think geript has no idea what he's doing (yes I'm well aware that he's played a number of games). He's seen other people do nothing, antagonize other players in the games, yet not be lynched and thinks that he can do the same. The post where he claims "unlynchable" strikes me in the same vein - it's a joke post just designed to annoy. I don't see anything about his play that suggests specifically that he's mafia other than that he hasn't attempted to scumhunt in any manner (which can honestly be said about half the thread). Furthermore, BH's play right now is striking me as very opportunistic: On August 31 2013 07:08 Blazinghand wrote:On August 31 2013 07:01 geript wrote:
Ok. Feel free to vote then. ##unvote
##vote geriptmy points vs ceph still stand, new evidence leads to update WRT prior assumptn. max probability scum lynch is geript This post in particular appears very suspicious. There's no evidence to indicate that BH had any prior suspicion of geript and he doesn't even attempt to offer any sort of reason for lynching geript. Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment). Why is BH's first response to simply just throw down a vote? Why is he so quick to abandon a case on Cephiro that has some sort of reasoning to just blindly go "he said to vote him, LET'S DO IT!" Think about what I said earlier about BH's play (if you haven't read my earlier post on him, go back and do it, think about what I'm saying, read between the lines, and don't just go "oh he's roleplaying, guess I should ignore him"). Be Strong. Be Brown. Vote BH. Why does this apply to BH but not to WoS or myself? Because neither of you have actually voted for geript, haven't completely abandoned your big case on someone else, and haven't struck me as suspicious before this? Come on clarity, think -_-
I thought WoS voted geript but my point stands.
I can understand your "drops his whole big case to vote for someone" argument but...
On August 31 2013 08:04 HiroPro wrote:
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Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment).
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On August 31 2013 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think we should try to lynch the unlynchable, worst case we nolynch which might have happened anyway in such a big game.
On August 31 2013 07:01 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think we should try to lynch the unlynchable, worst case we nolynch which might have happened anyway in such a big game. I agree with this completely.
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On August 31 2013 08:08 Cephiro wrote:
Let us assume a situation where you are given this "Null Talisman". You must have powers that either use it or are stronger than it. You wouldn't want it otherwise. Do you want this specific item, or are you fine any random item? If you are given the item, would you be able to eliminate a target in exchange?
I'd rather not reveal stuff like this right now. For obvious reasons.
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On August 31 2013 08:14 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 08:08 Cephiro wrote:
Let us assume a situation where you are given this "Null Talisman". You must have powers that either use it or are stronger than it. You wouldn't want it otherwise. Do you want this specific item, or are you fine any random item? If you are given the item, would you be able to eliminate a target in exchange? I'd rather not reveal stuff like this right now. For obvious reasons.
Alright, I understand. I hope you'd agree with me receiving the item before the end of the day though, but I'll not pursue you further about this unless something comes up.
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Well, I wanted to give geript a chance, but his most recent play deserves a vote.
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On August 31 2013 08:12 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 08:04 HiroPro wrote:On August 31 2013 07:58 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 31 2013 07:44 HiroPro wrote:I think geript has no idea what he's doing (yes I'm well aware that he's played a number of games). He's seen other people do nothing, antagonize other players in the games, yet not be lynched and thinks that he can do the same. The post where he claims "unlynchable" strikes me in the same vein - it's a joke post just designed to annoy. I don't see anything about his play that suggests specifically that he's mafia other than that he hasn't attempted to scumhunt in any manner (which can honestly be said about half the thread). Furthermore, BH's play right now is striking me as very opportunistic: On August 31 2013 07:08 Blazinghand wrote:On August 31 2013 07:01 geript wrote:
Ok. Feel free to vote then. ##unvote
##vote geriptmy points vs ceph still stand, new evidence leads to update WRT prior assumptn. max probability scum lynch is geript This post in particular appears very suspicious. There's no evidence to indicate that BH had any prior suspicion of geript and he doesn't even attempt to offer any sort of reason for lynching geript. Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment). Why is BH's first response to simply just throw down a vote? Why is he so quick to abandon a case on Cephiro that has some sort of reasoning to just blindly go "he said to vote him, LET'S DO IT!" Think about what I said earlier about BH's play (if you haven't read my earlier post on him, go back and do it, think about what I'm saying, read between the lines, and don't just go "oh he's roleplaying, guess I should ignore him"). Be Strong. Be Brown. Vote BH. Why does this apply to BH but not to WoS or myself? Because neither of you have actually voted for geript, haven't completely abandoned your big case on someone else, and haven't struck me as suspicious before this? Come on clarity, think -_- I thought WoS voted geript but my point stands. I can understand your "drops his whole big case to vote for someone" argument but... Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 08:04 HiroPro wrote:
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Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment).
<snip> Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think we should try to lynch the unlynchable, worst case we nolynch which might have happened anyway in such a big game. Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:01 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 31 2013 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think we should try to lynch the unlynchable, worst case we nolynch which might have happened anyway in such a big game. I agree with this completely.
What's your point clarity? Do you or do you not see the difference between the play of yourself/WoS and BH?
If you're trying to say something along the lines of "hiro, why are you being inconsistent about the reactions?", specifics clarity: the actions that the two of you took and the behavior leading up to this are different. You may not think it matters, but I do.
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On August 31 2013 08:21 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 08:12 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 31 2013 08:04 HiroPro wrote:On August 31 2013 07:58 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 31 2013 07:44 HiroPro wrote:I think geript has no idea what he's doing (yes I'm well aware that he's played a number of games). He's seen other people do nothing, antagonize other players in the games, yet not be lynched and thinks that he can do the same. The post where he claims "unlynchable" strikes me in the same vein - it's a joke post just designed to annoy. I don't see anything about his play that suggests specifically that he's mafia other than that he hasn't attempted to scumhunt in any manner (which can honestly be said about half the thread). Furthermore, BH's play right now is striking me as very opportunistic: On August 31 2013 07:08 Blazinghand wrote:On August 31 2013 07:01 geript wrote:
Ok. Feel free to vote then. ##unvote
##vote geriptmy points vs ceph still stand, new evidence leads to update WRT prior assumptn. max probability scum lynch is geript This post in particular appears very suspicious. There's no evidence to indicate that BH had any prior suspicion of geript and he doesn't even attempt to offer any sort of reason for lynching geript. Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment). Why is BH's first response to simply just throw down a vote? Why is he so quick to abandon a case on Cephiro that has some sort of reasoning to just blindly go "he said to vote him, LET'S DO IT!" Think about what I said earlier about BH's play (if you haven't read my earlier post on him, go back and do it, think about what I'm saying, read between the lines, and don't just go "oh he's roleplaying, guess I should ignore him"). Be Strong. Be Brown. Vote BH. Why does this apply to BH but not to WoS or myself? Because neither of you have actually voted for geript, haven't completely abandoned your big case on someone else, and haven't struck me as suspicious before this? Come on clarity, think -_- I thought WoS voted geript but my point stands. I can understand your "drops his whole big case to vote for someone" argument but... On August 31 2013 08:04 HiroPro wrote:
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Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment).
<snip> On August 31 2013 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think we should try to lynch the unlynchable, worst case we nolynch which might have happened anyway in such a big game. On August 31 2013 07:01 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 31 2013 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think we should try to lynch the unlynchable, worst case we nolynch which might have happened anyway in such a big game. I agree with this completely. What's your point clarity? Do you or do you not see the difference between the play of yourself/WoS and BH? If you're trying to say something along the lines of "hiro, why are you being inconsistent about the reactions?", specifics clarity: the actions that the two of you took and the behavior leading up to this are different. You may not think it matters, but I do.
Ofcourse I see the difference, but when you say "think about it, town think this way" and two other people thought another way, it seems a bit opportunistic that you only mention your already established scumread doing it.
It's fine though, I think you're cool and stuff.
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i still can't decide what to do with geript. randombum i choose you! Why does his claim mean I should vote for him.
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It's a good idea to lynch geript because we can test if his claim is real or not. If it is real, then we look at the people that soft pushed his lynch once he claimed, because that is where the scum lies.
A lynch that tells us absolutely nothing and is surely not scum is scum driven.
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why can't he be one-shot lynchproof scum
they have existed before
probably more frequently than multishot lynchproof town
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Here's my issue with Geript.
This play reminds me a LOT of his play in PTP in which he polled random people for stuff, made a lot of cryptic role-related posts, and ALSO called himself unlynchable (turns out he lied, but he was bussed).
He says he has some sort of towny motivation to do what he's doing so he's going to have to reveal it sooner than later but I would absolutely not be surprised in the slightest if he were lying about being unlynchable. Clarity's idea about it forcing a no-lynch where we actually gain some information is great (of course we still have to convince 16 people to vote for him). What I'm worried the most about is him gaining some anti-town power from people voting for him. Definitely within the realm of possibility and is the sole reason why I am not currently voting him.
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Geript show us what you can do
##vote geript
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such a sucky lynch man... ..
ferylt or something, NOT GEIRPT.
because only town want to kill me.
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