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On August 03 2013 09:05 Alakaslam wrote:
I know why you are pushing scam uamsi. (XD JK)
Umasi. Thou hast much defense to enact
DO IT NOW O IST SKUM MILK
RDO sup
GOD OF THE MACHINE. ...sup. still on? Pleas be so I wanna talk wit ya in a time sensitive manner, maphia speed chess, yes?
Talk away slam. I will be on for a while. Although no promises of speedy responses. I might play some games of dota.
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Bottom of page, second one up
Section on you
Also RDO post this page, couples your inconsistency
And yes I refer to you following me on deus. Why you do as I do, with just the right delay? Your timing is just off.
Umasi u r lookin like nonfat milk past expiration
Skum milk
Man I don't get the whole "I refuse to read Indio as town before now" stuff either. Just waiting until it is slap in face obvious AND I have pointed out reasons, then ignoring the reasons I pointed out. His great analysis was pre- night! He DID contribute.
However, lot of people did that.
Sheep sheep sheep
LS meter is 67%
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On August 03 2013 09:26 DeusXmachina wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 09:05 Alakaslam wrote:
I know why you are pushing scam uamsi. (XD JK)
Umasi. Thou hast much defense to enact
DO IT NOW O IST SKUM MILK
RDO sup
GOD OF THE MACHINE. ...sup. still on? Pleas be so I wanna talk wit ya in a time sensitive manner, maphia speed chess, yes? Talk away slam. I will be on for a while. Although no promises of speedy responses. I might play some games of dota.
Yes!
So what do you think of who? Have you read Flare?
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Also Gotard Umasi both hiding facts! Can be unintentional but ignoring convenient stuff. Is pushing agenda and confusing.
But I am confusing.
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Vatican City State732 Posts
On August 03 2013 09:10 Umasi wrote:
~I have explained myself for the vote swap, and that's what people hate.
Me and gotard being similarly suspicious of infii isn't weird, people who think that infii was town are weird, because he was scummy (not anymore)
also, if reps were an easy mislynch to push, why would I immediately target deus? Wouldn't it be more logical to keep pushing reps? Because that was early enough it wasn't "concrete" that reps was gonna get lynched.
It's not just similar suspicion. He's defended you repeatedly, and part of his self-stated reasoning for going after infinii was a scum read on you. That, and the fact that you both tag-teamed infinii and then me...could be coincidence of course, but bearrs watching
Yes, you have provided explainations for the vote swap but they were satisfactory to me. I'm not looking to bury you, I want to win this game, and right now that looks suspicious to me. You seem the scummiest to me, which is why I'm throwing these statements out there.
The reps move would be good for you either way. Either he lives and owes his life to you, which gives him a charitable view of you (and you likely off someone who is more of a threat), or he dies and flips town
One of the strangest parts of the move is it is basically suicidal if you are town. If he dies and flips town like he did, ok. But if he flips mafia, you're probably fucked. As town, it wouldn't make sense to take that chance, since you couldn't possibly know from the wild signs he was throwing about. If you're mafia though, and you know his role, the move becomes much more appealing.
If you want to talk more about your vote, thats fine. I think you've already done a lot of defending. Go ahead and respond as you will, this post is more for the benefit of the rest of the town. It's important we carefully evaluate your vote
Again though, I'm not unwilling to listen, which is the impression you seem to have gotten from my prior post. I find things about you fishy. You can't convince me that the vote was not very strange, Ok. Guess what, I find things about alaksam fishy too, but his overall pro-town play means I have a solid town read on him. So at least for me, and my thoughts, I wouldn't be so worried with answering them as playing a strong pro-town game so I can feel more confident in you
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Also
H o l y - f l a r e, this just hit me
Scum nk HolyFlare
How likely because he is right?
He had already let slip who he thought was scummy
And then he is nk
Gotard Umasi and nightcat received as much at night
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One thing that throws me for a loop about Umasi. In my opinion changing his vote on reps last minute is not a scummy thing to do. Why would a scum want to switch their vote on reps and risk taking a no lynch. It was a small victory for them getting reps out of the way, one townie down. Also he has come under a lot of attention because of that vote switch. Again, that does not seem scummy. That is why it is so hard for me to get a good read on Umasi. I still think he is suspicious, and like I said before, I will elaborate on that later tonight.
Slam are you still suspecting RDO for scum? Don't you think his spike in posts is a reaction to pressure? Also, if Umasi is not scum, then RDO could be taking the opportunity to raise suspicion of Umasi.
Slam would you consider scam as more scummy than RDO despite the fact that he is lurking extremely hard and we can't get a good read off of his posts?
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Vatican City State732 Posts
On August 03 2013 09:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Also
H o l y - f l a r e, this just hit me
Scum nk HolyFlare
How likely because he is right?
He had already let slip who he thought was scummy
And then he is nk
Gotard Umasi and nightcat received as much at night
Meh, I question that a little bit...and I've already gone on about Gotard and Usami
Yes, that's one possible interpretation.
Could also be an attempt to completely throw us off the scent by killing someone mostly wrong...I don't know if that's really part of the meta here, but it definitely seems like a solid play if you think you can keep the attention focused away from your team if you are scum. Maybe thats just a newb take on it, but it's my 2 cents.
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Nope, I am practically tunnel Umasi.
But I must let him speak, yes.
Remember I must fight through positive bias...
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Man slam , you would be such a great help , if i dont have to reread everything you write 3 times. I was getting suspicious on you because you secure the lynch but you didnt say anything to umasi the whole night.
Although i never had a scum read on you, that behavior you have was a bit odd, but i am off your case for now.
And about the vote switch, there was still quiet a bit of floating vote out there, a scum could have still switch back to secure that lynch, (assuming Umasi is a scum of course.)
So i dont think his vote switch is a risk of letting rep live.
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On August 03 2013 09:37 DeusXmachina wrote:
One thing that throws me for a loop about Umasi. In my opinion changing his vote on reps last minute is not a scummy thing to do. Why would a scum want to switch their vote on reps and risk taking a no lynch. It was a small victory for them getting reps out of the way, one townie down. Also he has come under a lot of attention because of that vote switch. Again, that does not seem scummy. That is why it is so hard for me to get a good read on Umasi. I still think he is suspicious, and like I said before, I will elaborate on that later tonight.
Slam are you still suspecting RDO for scum? Don't you think his spike in posts is a reaction to pressure? Also, if Umasi is not scum, then RDO could be taking the opportunity to raise suspicion of Umasi.
Slam would you consider scam as more scummy than RDO despite the fact that he is lurking extremely hard and we can't get a good read off of his posts?
I have started to mean town on RDO.
You do bring up good points. But you are distilling actions a bit.
Scam is 100% null to me. I just dislike him. I unfortunately hope he is modkill- if not we lynch "tomorrow"(day3)
Because I lean town on RDO, yes, but RDO mentioned a work schedule that I don't see him posting outside of.
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assume we're a scum team together, what would we get out of tag teaming like you said we did? Is there any reason we would build such a strong connection?
(yeah, it's wifom, the thoughts not even occuring to you, and since I brought up you should just ignore it I guess.)
(btw, the town motivation for no lynching instead of mis lynching is the fact that we don't kill a townie.)
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i like to metion zyree hasnot posted for almost 30 hours now, i know holy got a town read from him, but i actually never did.
His post were all a bunch of town read and null, i am not seeing how he could be consider as town.
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On August 03 2013 09:40 Nightcat99 wrote:
Man slam , you would be such a great help , if i dont have to reread everything you write 3 times. I was getting suspicious on you because you secure the lynch but you didnt say anything to umasi the whole night.
Although i never had a scum read on you, that behavior you have was a bit odd, but i am off your case for now.
And about the vote switch, there was still quiet a bit of floating vote out there, a scum could have still switch back to secure that lynch, (assuming Umasi is a scum of course.)
So i dont think his vote switch is a risk of letting rep live.
Yeah actually I did.
I got pissed he didn't vote scam. I switched before him. If he really wanted lynch off reps but didn't want no lynch, he should have counter wagoned with me, publicly so. He didnt. Now he wants to go after scam, and says he purposely wanted to no lynch.
Thank you for reminding me of the back of my mind.
That is why Umasi is scum.
Defense that though.
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Vatican City State732 Posts
On August 03 2013 09:37 DeusXmachina wrote:
One thing that throws me for a loop about Umasi. In my opinion changing his vote on reps last minute is not a scummy thing to do. Why would a scum want to switch their vote on reps and risk taking a no lynch. It was a small victory for them getting reps out of the way, one townie down. Also he has come under a lot of attention because of that vote switch. Again, that does not seem scummy. That is why it is so hard for me to get a good read on Umasi. I still think he is suspicious, and like I said before, I will elaborate on that later tonight.
Slam are you still suspecting RDO for scum? Don't you think his spike in posts is a reaction to pressure? Also, if Umasi is not scum, then RDO could be taking the opportunity to raise suspicion of Umasi.
Slam would you consider scam as more scummy than RDO despite the fact that he is lurking extremely hard and we can't get a good read off of his posts?
That's part of it for sure...I also was busy with work, and this is my first game, so I'm just getting into it.
I still don't think the switch is a smart move for a townie. If reps dies and flips red, he is pretty much boned, no? Why take that chance if you don't have foreknowledge.
I acknowledge that it can be taken different ways. We'll see what Umasi does tonight and if he can win me over
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On August 03 2013 09:45 Nightcat99 wrote:
i like to metion zyree hasnot posted for almost 30 hours now, i know holy got a town read from him, but i actually never did.
His post were all a bunch of town read and null, i am not seeing how he could be consider as town.
And yeah neuter did i
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On August 03 2013 09:30 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 09:26 DeusXmachina wrote:On August 03 2013 09:05 Alakaslam wrote:
I know why you are pushing scam uamsi. (XD JK)
Umasi. Thou hast much defense to enact
DO IT NOW O IST SKUM MILK
RDO sup
GOD OF THE MACHINE. ...sup. still on? Pleas be so I wanna talk wit ya in a time sensitive manner, maphia speed chess, yes? Talk away slam. I will be on for a while. Although no promises of speedy responses. I might play some games of dota. Yes! So what do you think of who? Have you read Flare?
Yes I have read flare's extremely long post. Call me selfish but I wish he would of focused on only a couple people. He has got great analysis and it seems like he wasted some time on smaller suspects (like himself lol). I think he has got some really solid info on u M asi, Gotard, and Night. Ill do my part by researching them too. On a side note, I think it is best to focus on a couple key individuals. Analyzing their associations is great if it helps pin that individual as scum, but otherwise I don't think it is very useful. I am trying not to get bogged down by looking at everyone of suspect all at once. Ill post in detail on scum reads later tonight.
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ya like i said it was a conspiracy theory, i just keep having this mental image that you two would meet on a scum forum and start giggling and plot to take over the world (not game related)
On August 03 2013 09:44 Umasi wrote:
assume we're a scum team together, what would we get out of tag teaming like you said we did? Is there any reason we would build such a strong connection?
(yeah, it's wifom, the thoughts not even occuring to you, and since I brought up you should just ignore it I guess.)
(btw, the town motivation for no lynching instead of mis lynching is the fact that we don't kill a townie.)
The problem with this is that none of us is sure that its a mislynch, we might think its a mislynch, and we certainly think he could be a bad town but that doesnt mean hes 100% town.
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Vatican City State732 Posts
On August 03 2013 09:42 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 09:37 DeusXmachina wrote:
One thing that throws me for a loop about Umasi. In my opinion changing his vote on reps last minute is not a scummy thing to do. Why would a scum want to switch their vote on reps and risk taking a no lynch. It was a small victory for them getting reps out of the way, one townie down. Also he has come under a lot of attention because of that vote switch. Again, that does not seem scummy. That is why it is so hard for me to get a good read on Umasi. I still think he is suspicious, and like I said before, I will elaborate on that later tonight.
Slam are you still suspecting RDO for scum? Don't you think his spike in posts is a reaction to pressure? Also, if Umasi is not scum, then RDO could be taking the opportunity to raise suspicion of Umasi.
Slam would you consider scam as more scummy than RDO despite the fact that he is lurking extremely hard and we can't get a good read off of his posts? Because I lean town on RDO, yes, but RDO mentioned a work schedule that I don't see him posting outside of.
Huh? I've been posting a fair amount the past couple of nights, all outside of my work schedule? I'm confused tt
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