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On July 27 2013 00:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 00:00 TanGeng wrote: @JarJarDrinks
How do you feel about my FirmTofu case? Oh I'm still all about lynching Tofu. I just wanted to clear up this whole corazon role thing first.
Ok, but when you do, please dive deep, comment on it, and see if you can add anything.
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Yeah im going to his filter now also.
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jrkirby was turbo lurker for pretty much all of days 1 and 2.
I agreed with getmoript's town assessment of him based on initial reaction near the lynch. Oatsmaster really dragged him into the mud though, so I'm not so sure about him anymore.
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Where is austin at? His activity has dropped off a ton
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On July 25 2013 23:34 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 15:55 getmoript wrote: @Austin. I have a question for you whenever we're both on again. You best be on tomorrow. BTW, It's my birthday friday, so Scum I would appreciate if you'd let me live one more day so that I can solve this game on my birthday. I'm around-ish for a couple hours now, and then around later tonight (eastern) before deadline. I also really wanted to claim medic protecting you just to play the WIFOM game, but maybe I'm claiming it now. Suck it, scum, maybe getmoript is protected. Whatup? Or do I need to clear a block of time and be around to discuss rather than just get a question fired?
Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 22:04 Onegu wrote: Honestly guys for me its
1 jrkirby 2 jrkirby 3 jrkirby 4 firm 5 TG
Like to discuss this more with geript and WoS as they are closest thing to confirmed town at this point. Austins thoughts would be welcome also.
Need to do some more rereading. Don't like FirmTofu as a shot right now: (1) SUPER HARD "defended" a guy who was clearly getting lynched (2) on SUPER WEIRD grounds. I am more inclined to believe actually that FirmTofu really did have some runin with fake-claiming Ace and that was fresh on his mind. I think a TG shot is fine. I think a jrkirby shot is maybe less fine, the conversation I had with him last night was...he was VERY freely saying some stuff that could get him into hot water/make him look scummy. Like, if he's scum, then scum is just saying "I'm townie cuz this guy's posts weren't awful and he scumhunted" followed by not pulling up any not-awful posts and only finding scumhunting with 45 minutes to go in the day because people had been bullying him for reads. I don't count that as scumhunting, and it looks VASTLY different from the last game I saw TanGeng in (as town). To just straight up type those things and post them is, imo, a super mega outrageous plan if jrkirby is scum.
@5t what do you think of this post is it just wifom? I dont see scum makeing this post.
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austin does all kinds of crazy crap as either alignment.
You should ask him about his claim in Aperture 2 mini. It was pretty nuts (he was mafia).
~marv
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TanGeng, if you really think I'm mafia, who do you think my teammate is?
Cora? The cop who says you are town? jjd? The guy who has been trying to lynch me since forever? Or jrkirby? The guy ive been trying to lynch since forever?
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Was austin supposed to be teflon?
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Well, I think TG is probably town from cDg's claim. I just don't think a scumteam of the two is particularly likely and if they aren't on the same scumteam then I see no reason for cDg to say that TG is town.
I also subscribe to the belief that 5T is town. Austin, I'm not entirely sure about... but that's only because I'm terrible at reading him and ive never played a game where he was scum. I'm leaning town.
That leaves Onegu, jjd, and jrkirby.
I'm really feeling Kirby and I think that jjd is the most likely teammate. Onegu is a toss-up. Its hard to tell.
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I'm gonna reread the thread and figure this game out. I feel like I am missing something really obvious.
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Here was my original case about tofu and his scumpoints:On July 21 2013 15:20 JarJarDrinks wrote:Tofu is who I'm most suspicious of right now. His first post sounds like he was just trying to say the towniest thing he could think of. Then he makes his "scum points" post, which I thought was mostly a joke @ first. But he defended it and said he wants to vote based off of it. Like the only thing even remotely scummy here is getmoript saying he doesn't want to interact w/ marv and only barely. Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 08:00 FirmTofu wrote:On July 20 2013 23:00 TanGeng wrote: FiveTouch is Marv/VE? We must lynch this Redville scum and take revenge for the mayor!!!
Down with FirmTofu!!!! Up with SilkenTofu!!! Constructively discussing? Are we dreaming about a different type of forum mafia. If we wanted constructive discussion, might as well lop off about 24 hours of time and get closer to the voting deadline. Beginning of games is always fluffy and I like fluffy.
Fluff=bad You get scum points, sir. On July 21 2013 03:32 getmoript wrote:On July 21 2013 03:00 FiveTouch wrote: It's a very real fake vote meant to express my willingness to fake-lynch rayn. Sup?
Also geript no, I'm not on right now. I'll probably be on later though, in case you...you know...had anything you wanted to say. You wanna say something alignment indicative for me. Because otherwise I really want to lynch you because both Hydras can't be town. Why can't both hydras be town? You get scum points, sir. On July 21 2013 04:02 getmoript wrote:On July 21 2013 04:00 FiveTouch wrote:On July 21 2013 03:43 getmoript wrote:On July 21 2013 03:35 FiveTouch wrote: Apart from anything else we're a replacement. So it's just full on retarded straight up.
And creating some false dichotomy based on nothing. Yuk yuk yuk.
~marv I'm not talking to you Marv. I can't read you for shit. As a matter of fact I don't think I've played a game with you other than the other hydra game. Put VE back on the line. You're serious? You say something horrendous and then just say you're not going to interact with me? How about some motivation, because you're being disgusting so far. ##Vote: getmoript Are you an idiot Marv or just scum? I told you I can't read you versus shit. I read people far better when I've followed/played in more games with them. Hell I still don't have a read on you in Ver's game. You just mad because I'm more gay ripped than you? Why would you want to glean information from only one half of the hydra? Why are you asking for less information to work with? You get scum points, sir. On July 21 2013 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah WoS, i am scum, what was the point of your question?
I don't think there is anything scummy in thread atm. Just stopped working and read the thread. Lemme drink a couple of beers so i can start playing. ^^
Oats why are you so silent? You claimed scum. You get scum points, sir. On July 21 2013 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Austin is town. I am so confused. You think Austin is town but you don't explain what makes you think that why. Why say it at all? You get scum points, sir. @ least 2 or 3 out of his 5 points are obviously not serious posts that he jumps on. Need to sleep now. I'll have more to say tomorrow. I wasn't the only person to point out how bad these were. And that was my case BEFORE any flips. Now when you look @ that list, we can see that he was giving those scumpoints to 2 townies and TG who is pretty close to confirmed I think. Calling out townies isn't necessarily scummy. Calling them out for extremely thin reasoning is.
He then vote's oats for an even worse reasonOn July 22 2013 06:23 FirmTofu wrote: Voting Oats for now because all he's typing is "lol", "don't lynch me", "nooooo" ##Vote: Oatsmaster and when getmo confronts him about it he says he was just picking randomly from his lurker listOn July 22 2013 06:56 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 06:53 getmoript wrote: Because anyone could've made those lists from any alignment. There's no real thought put into reading who's where and why. Some of those I have leans on in different directions but you can't even seem to find a favor as to which you want to lynch other than Oats for weird random reasons which don't differentiate him from the other lurkers. Of course anyone could have made those lists from any alignment! That's not the point at all. People asked for who I'd like to lynch and this is my answer. I have already justified why, so now it is your job to convince me otherwise. I picked Oats pretty much randomly. I could have easily picked any of the other lurkers. Do you want to lynch any of the other people on the list? If so, who and why? Convince me.
Then there's everything TG pointed out about his interactions w/ TAA. And just the fact that he was actually trying to convince us not to vote TAA is just shady beyond belief. I know people will say "why would he defend a scumbuddy that is auto-headed to the noose?". I think he was desperate to save him because he was the roleblocker.
Vig claimed so scum was probably happy cause they can nuetralize him. Getmoreipt then announces he redchecked TAA. Scum gets scared cause they're gonna lose their weapon against the vig. Plus it's gonna make TG look alot better cause we're gonna come to the conclusion that he was blocked by scum and tofu had been pushing him all game. So tofu tried to see if he could derail the lynch. He couldn't so he hopped on the wagon citing the bad roleclaim.
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On July 26 2013 23:14 TanGeng wrote:+ Show Spoiler +@jrkirby I have this part of a post from you: On July 26 2013 02:59 jrkirby wrote: Oatsmaster: He kinda picked up his play a bit day 2, I don't have a solid scumread on him anymore. Honestly, he might make a decent lynch in 2 days though (or a vig shot? Too bad that's super unlikely).
Corazon: Him being scum really depends on whether he can give good info to the town. I still don't know why he just announced his role without any info at all.
So, I can't give a good recommendation for who to shoot between me and TG, because I think we're both town. I might slightly prefer TG getting shot, but that's only because I think I'll play better from here on out, I KNOW I'm town, and only think that he's town, and I like being alive.
On the off chance that you shoot firmtofu and he's scum, I am eternally grateful. And these two: On July 26 2013 12:35 jrkirby wrote: I'd rather onegu shoot me than not at all. I seriously think it's better for town that way. I need reasons why you think your death would benefit town. On July 26 2013 13:14 jrkirby wrote: Would be really nice if onegu shot oats and it was scum. What made you change your mind for an immediate shot? And on oats? I also said the same thing about getting vigged. On July 26 2013 12:50 TanGeng wrote: I'm with jrkirby. Just shoot me.... now. Between you and me, did you still think that I would have been the better target?
I feel like I'm not really sure about anything now. I've had a scumread on oats since day 1, and really wasn't expecting him to flip town. I never really wanted to get shot, I kinda thought it was inevitable, though. So instead of trying to save myself, I pushed my reads, i.e. you being town, firmtofu and oats being scum. I thought firmtofu was scum since the end of D2/beginning of N2, and obviously prefer one of my scumreads to die than me.
I'm still glad that onegu shot. I know getmoript was pushing for a no-shoot, but I really think it's better because now we have onegu as confirmed town. (I know someone said something about the possibly it could've been a scum aligned bullet, but I'll disregard that because that'd be a really unbalanced setup.)
Honestly, you still have the possibility of being scum (in my eyes, however small it is), so some possibility of getting scum is better than no possibility. Overall, I prefer a townflip on oats than a townflip on either of us, because I didn't see anything useful that he posted.
However, we should all look through oatsmaster's filter to see if I'm wrong, and he left some useful info, now that we know he's town.
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On July 26 2013 20:29 FiveTouch wrote: I have one good reason to believe Corazon is town, just waiting for VE to get back to me on it in QT.
Do you have more info on this now?
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On July 27 2013 02:18 FirmTofu wrote: Onegu is a toss-up. Its hard to tell. You mean that you think he could be a scum vig?
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@Corazon: Here's one thing I never got an answer for: Why did you claim? You had no info that would help town. There was no reason to claim.
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On July 27 2013 03:04 jrkirby wrote: @Corazon: Here's one thing I never got an answer for: Why did you claim? You had no info that would help town. There was no reason to claim. Because my first reaction was that he was lying.
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On July 27 2013 03:04 jrkirby wrote: @Corazon: Here's one thing I never got an answer for: Why did you claim? You had no info that would help town. There was no reason to claim. Also yelling at me for claiming is like beating a dead horse. It's useless.
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Oh, it was a counterclaim to getmoript? Ahhh, I kinda get it. I think I missed that part.
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Yeah, Corazon did a snap call on getmoript's claim with the thought hasty analysis that two detectives weren't possible.
This is really hard to do as scum. Because scum would have to be really well prepared for that scenario. Honestly TAA appears completely blindsided by the claim as evident by the virtually dead scum slip.
Now that I'm reviewing, Corazon snapped called even faster than TAA's scum slip. Wow...
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