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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 27 2013 01:22 GMT
#1961
Going over firmtofus filter now, am I the only person who thinks he is town at this point?
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 27 2013 01:35 GMT
#1962
Real and Fake Conversations

In the game of Mafia, any thing involving townies are real conversations. They are talking trying to figure out what the other guy is saying. But communication is never perfect, either because of bad or hasty writing skills or bad or hasty reading comprehension. Conversations happen in fits and starts with some questions coming back immediately or misunderstanding between people lasting pages and pages. This is the nature of town conversations. There is miscommunication.

The amount of miscommunication depends on the person. Careful readers and writers will have fewer and time starved readers and writers will have more. All kinds of things can happen.

Examples Here:
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 23 2013 11:11 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 10:53 FiveTouch wrote:
There is no heat, I'm the only one saying he's suspicious are you high dude?

A bit of forgetfulness or just ignoring the red letters everywhere while the getmoript hydra raged and floated just lynching him blindly. Is that not enough risk?

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On July 23 2013 10:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
So are you scum or town??

I'm still town and it looks like DocH is/was town. I don't know what you are.


Example of me reading the post and not following the conversation or something.

On July 25 2013 21:13 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 21:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
lol TG, who cares???
Also, who do you want to get vigged?


Want to? Not in normal circumstances.
If there is an excellent winning plan that involves me getting vigged, I'd be up for it.


On July 25 2013 21:16 TanGeng wrote:
Err misread the question. LOL Oops


On July 25 2013 21:24 TanGeng wrote:
My top vig target would be Corazon.

Here I skipped "who" on the first run through and answered "Do I want to get vigged." Hahaha. Realized it afterwards.

On July 27 2013 00:15 TanGeng wrote:
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On July 27 2013 00:08 cDgCorazon wrote:
I'm not entirely convinced by your case. FirmTofu's interaction with TAA is a little bit sketch, but the second part of your case (in which you say he pressures multiple people near the D1 deadline) only shows to me what he cared about the vote and wanted you dead, which would be really ballsy for scum to do. If he was scum, he would not have cared too much if you had died or not. A no-lynch is still really good for scum, which tells me that TAA's efforts to drive your lynch home do not have much scum motivation.


It's not the driving home of the lynch it's that FirmTofu didn't call out TAA.

It is almost as if he knew that TAA wouldn't show up and didn't want to call out TAA and draw attention.

FirmTofu also wasn't the only one pushing. He blended in with the WoS angry reaction. The sort of contrast between DocH, jrkirby treatment and the TAA treatment is there.

Complicated Ideas require clarification.


Sometimes there is just plain combativeness and refusal to read..


In movies and televisions shows, actors can interact, talk, and engage without missing a beat. They can throw one liners out there with their co-workers there to comprehend and respond immediately. These people have preparation, the talking points are planned out, and their conversations are scripted. And this is exactly the advantage scum have. They can plan out their conversations, but there is a potential of a huge scum tell. This tell is that when two masoned individuals performing a rehearsed or nearly rehearsed conversation is that it can look unnaturally smooth without the normal friction that you see between two people actually having a conversation.

With this idea let's take a look at the critical part of day two where austinmcc fishes Tofu out of the TAA lynch problem. See this page:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=60

Tofu's earlier conversation about the same topic spanned pages!!!! Got sidetracked all the time. And had all sorts of natural conversation flow signatures. This austinmcc & Tofu exchange, however, takes exactly 5 posts over the course of about 20 minutes. BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM and it's over. No real questions and challenges. "You're right. I see. Etc." from Tofu, as austinmcc leads him out of his original position. Tofu sees the logic that he couldn't see before. Given austinmcc worded his response better than other players, Tofu also had to have much better reading comprehension. This is so out of character as to be unbelievable. It's completely scripted. BECAUSE they rehearsed it in scum QT.

SCRIPTED. SCUM. LYNCH.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 27 2013 01:38 GMT
#1963
I just want to let everyone know that I'm still here. I've had a really busy day and I'm distracted by RL issues but I am trying to read and comprehend things. I probably will not post until I wake up tomorrow. Sorry =(
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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 27 2013 02:22 GMT
#1964
On July 27 2013 10:22 Onegu wrote:
Going over firmtofus filter now, am I the only person who thinks he is town at this point?

Only TanGeng, Kirby, and cDg think I'm scum at this point. So basically all the scummy people think I'm scum. The choice is yours.

I really want to lynch cDg today.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 27 2013 02:32 GMT
#1965
JJD has you as scum and 5t has switched to you as null. I am going to post all my reads now and my thought process behind them.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 27 2013 02:55 GMT
#1966
Oh yeah. If there is multiple KP again in the night, Onegu is the SK. Simple logic. I'd think.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 27 2013 03:00 GMT
#1967
Meh, actually it's not. NM.

No SK. SK really should have shot N1. I'm just being paranoid.
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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 27 2013 03:23 GMT
#1968
On July 27 2013 11:32 Onegu wrote:
JJD has you as scum and 5t has switched to you as null. I am going to post all my reads now and my thought process behind them.

Oh yeah, I forgot about JJD. I don't think 5T is serious, though.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 27 2013 03:31 GMT
#1969
Omg it deleted my post so hard to write walls of text on a tab fuck me, TG if I was SK the vigi claim would be the worst claim in the world.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 27 2013 03:36 GMT
#1970
Townies

Cora
FiveTouch

Null but townie

TG
FIRM

Null

JJD

Null but scummy

Austin

Scum

Jrkirby

Will post thoughts on each person comeing, not going to chance it getting deleted again.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 27 2013 03:41 GMT
#1971
Townies

Cora, his immidiate reaction to getmoripts claim leads me to heavily believe he is town, then his actions after the recent day post with his checks. His interactions with oats who looked really scummy made me feel town also.

Fivetouch

The most active player who asks good questions and seems to care and adjust his reads based on what isging on, if he is scum he deserves to win.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 27 2013 03:46 GMT
#1972
Null but townie

TG his reaction with his rb seems real and I dont see scum makeing a rb on thier own player I just dont, also his activity has picked up markedly with actual scum hunting even though I disagree with his reads.

Firm fairly active, makes decent reads answers questions well and in a timely manner, this is my 4th game with him I think and this is concurrent with his town meta
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 27 2013 03:49 GMT
#1973
Null

JJD

I am having a hard time with him he has some scummy ass posts and some townie ones.

His filter is short but not nearly as much filler as JrKirby
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 27 2013 04:13 GMT
#1974
Null but scummy

Austin, has played a active game and what looks townie. His claim is odd and thinking more about it it makes since from scum perspective. Wifom heavy. Going off of 5T meta also that he is a tricksy hobbit as scum also. Will filter dive him hard tonight.


Scummy as hell

JrKirby

Have said it many times, mostly filler, not active doesnt seem to care
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 27 2013 04:14 GMT
#1975
Has VE posted anything recently?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 27 2013 05:11 GMT
#1976
On July 24 2013 12:33 FirmTofu wrote:
Yeah, TAA and I totally planned his idiotic claim together. I orchestrated it to make both of us look like scum so that we could be lynched in quick succession. What a great fucking idea!


This post gives me heavy town feelings btw.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 27 2013 08:21 GMT
#1977
Hi guys, just letting you know that I'm town and catching up.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 27 2013 08:41 GMT
#1978
You austins replacement I guess?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 27 2013 08:41 GMT
#1979
Im around if you want to discuss anything
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 27 2013 08:45 GMT
#1980
Can you link me to Day/Nightposts, and tell me if Zephir flipped already, and if he was scum?

On July 21 2013 02:46 Zephirdd wrote:
god fucking damnit bluelightz, starting the game on the day i have the worst hangover since... yesterday. my head hurts a lot.

why are there so many hydras here? it's hard to put up with this. Hopefully I'm not insane from all of this.

5touch, is this a pressure vote, a joke vote, or do you actually mean it?

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