[Champion] Elise - Page 7
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Both spectral wraith and ancient golem are very cost effective, so I think it is a little silly to say it is "hardly even worth the cost." If you don't think you can get the maximum benefit given the cost, that's a different story. Obviously if you're getting cced and explode instantly it's not worth a whole lot. I do understand your perspective though, I often feel like I get away with a lot of crap with spectral wraith that I probably shouldn't be simply because teams at my level are terrible at dealing with threats like Elise appropriately. I've been incorporating ancient golem into my builds more often, and the results have been pretty positive. My gut feeling is that in general, spectral wraith is better against disorganized, lower level teams and ancient golem is better against more coordinated teams. Although that's completing ignoring team comps and a bunch of other stuff. Also, I've been building Zhonya's a lot less after you said you disliked it, and I agree with you on that point now, although I still think there's a small niche for it. | ||
ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
i started with dblade just running spen page and didnt really get low, but i can see the logic, is this common these days? | ||
FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On July 19 2013 21:03 sylverfyre wrote: Are MPen Quints (which don't help your clear) really that much better than AP Quints? I know that Q benefits better from them, but W/spider autos/spiderlings have pretty good damage from AP... I've played a lot of jungle Elise over the last few days and I don't really think you need aggressive quints on her for a fast and safe jungle clear. I use hybrid reds and CDR quints (to gain a fairly high CDR fast for better chase and escape), by just let spiderlings tank creeps I can clear the jungle fairly fast and still have quite a few potions to spare. I always go for Golem stone so I can use Sorc boots. :-) | ||
obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
A normal build gives more lifesteal for when Elise leaves lane and is stronger earlier due to better build paths but the MR build would help against all that free harass. Also do you change summoners? | ||
Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
what I've been doing is my standard double dorans blade and then into like double null magic for hexdrinker, but it's super difficult to allin her because she just rappels as soon as you use your stun... Don't think there is any build that will win you the lane, but this one allows you to stay in at least for a little bit. | ||
RouaF
France4120 Posts
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On July 19 2013 21:03 sylverfyre wrote: Are MPen Quints (which don't help your clear) really that much better than AP Quints? I know that Q benefits better from them, but W/spider autos/spiderlings have pretty good damage from AP... the answer is yes mpen beats ap on her in like almost all situations ill try to find the webpage that figured this out | ||
TomatoShark
United States288 Posts
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
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TomatoShark
United States288 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Problem is more people play jungle Elise these days than top Elise, so picking Garen as a counter can be dicey. Also building that much MR is problematic if their mid is AD unless you absolutely crush Elise. | ||
IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On August 08 2013 11:24 IamPryda wrote: is it bad to switch out of spiderform in a team fight if your ability's are off cool down in human form? When I play her in teamfights its usually Human use all 3 spider use Q/W auto, then as long as I'm on my target I just mash Q in spider form. If my w+q in human form can finish someone, or they get out of melee, or I'm forced to back off melee range I'll go back to human for for another round of abilities. I save spider e to save my ass or finish off someone who got away at low hp, or to follow through a movement ability. | ||
Sajaki
Canada1135 Posts
Secondly, in top lane, is it best to go for Sorcs, guise, tank items like sunfire/FH, or to go sorc, guise, ap items like abyssal/zhonya, or is it situational? | ||
miicah
Australia2470 Posts
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