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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
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Vivax
21682 Posts
On July 19 2013 23:07 strongandbig wrote: Anyway voting tofu. The case is good enough that I don't need to 100% believe the cop claim to at least vote tofu for now. ##vote: firmtofu Which case do you like most? What arguments do you find particularly persuasive? Asking this cause I'm interested in knowing how your read evolved and based on what arguments. @ Rayn Didn't notice the cop claim when I wrote that post. I'm however very distrusting of ace. I prefer to wait for Tofu first and then work through his posts again before giving a judgment. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On July 19 2013 23:10 Vivax wrote: Which case do you like most? What arguments do you find particularly persuasive? Asking this cause I'm interested in knowing how your read evolved and based on what arguments. @ Rayn Didn't notice the cop claim when I wrote that post. I'm however very distrusting of ace. I prefer to wait for Tofu first and then work through his posts again before giving a judgment. Specifically, two arguments drh made that I at first ignored cause I didn't really focus on the specifics of the arguments he was making, I had been just filing their whole interaction away as rage and stubbornness. - drh's meta comparison of this game to nuclear winter, where tofu flipped town; especially the comparison of the first big post tofu makes in each game - tofu starts off saying drh "made good points" about him then calls the same points lies when drh doesn't back off I thought there was a third good point - Drh also attacked tofu for not doing enough to keep a townie (VE) from being lynched but i just went back and read that part of tofu's filter and he didnt actually have a townread on ve plus he did tell people to get off him, so this point isn't actually as good as I thought it was. But I feel like those first two arguments are independent of the actual substance of the "you-said-this-no-I-didn't" that caused me to disregard their interaction day1. | ||
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Vivax
21682 Posts
Can your reasoning against Tofu hence be reduced to this? - drh's meta comparison of this game to nuclear winter, where tofu flipped town; especially the comparison of the first big post tofu makes in each game - tofu starts off saying drh "made good points" about him then calls the same points lies when drh doesn't back off Did you find anything you find scummy that no one else noticed yet? Can you find me an example for the second point? What do you think is the difference in first post that makes him specifically scum? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On July 19 2013 22:57 strongandbig wrote: Do you guys really think ace is telling the truth? I mean I'm willing to vote tofu because drh's case is pretty persuasive once you get past the massive shitfest over who said what about sloosh, but do you guys really think this is a legit claim from ace? (1/20) only guy reading this thread. kudos. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
You are half right. I read too. So you didn't investigate FT? | ||
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Ace
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raynpelikoneet
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
use logic and it's obvious you are town As for this Ace claim I ain't believing shit after roulette, just gonna keep playing this day normally like it didn't happen. Keep hunting scum and don't just end discussion for the day like it always does | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
 This time I'm actually upfront about my lies. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On July 20 2013 00:53 VayneAuthority wrote: You are confirmed rayn because no sane scumteam would think their silencer is going to die at the first night. There is no way you and him set that up to make you look clear. use logic and it's obvious you are town As for this Ace claim I ain't believing shit after roulette, just gonna keep playing this day normally like it didn't happen. Keep hunting scum and don't just end discussion for the day like it always does It has already pointed out by Korynne why this is not 100% true. You were talking about my claim, what does that have to do with anything (it's what i asked you about in the first place)? Do you think FT / Ace / both are scum? Also lol, my logic is that i am town as my role-PM says so. :D | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On July 20 2013 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: It has already pointed out by Korynne why this is not 100% true. You were talking about my claim, what does that have to do with anything (it's what i asked you about in the first place)? Do you think FT / Ace / both are scum? Also lol, my logic is that i am town as my role-PM says so. :D Oh I'm talking about your claim of being silenced. We are on different wavelengths there. I think Ace is 3rd party/VI actually. He said he had his own agenda and he's doing weird things As I stated earlier I think FT is town after his back and forth with DrH and he is at least attempting to analyze things. Sloosh/Koshi are my strong scumreads meapak is a minor scumread, he's trollin' hard for some one that played so useful as town in nuclear | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On July 20 2013 00:56 Ace wrote: oh come on Vayne, it was a one time thing This time I'm actually upfront about my lies. you seem to be the detective role in every game I play with you lol, you always fakeclaim something. I am really interested in wtf your role is this game because I don't think you would blatantly play against your wincon. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
I for one would much rather lynch sloosh than FT | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
[17:07:52] <Oatsmaster> can you look through gumshoe's filter and see if he breadcrumbed anything about his defence? [17:07:00] <Oatsmaster> cause that guy is confirmed town [17:07:17] <raynpelik0neet> what do you mean by "his defence"? [17:07:30] <Oatsmaster> like bodyguard shit [17:07:33] <Oatsmaster> i think its marv [17:07:35] <Oatsmaster> but I dunno [17:07:27] <raynpelik0neet> what, i don't follow [17:07:33] <raynpelik0neet> can you walk me through it [17:07:40] <Oatsmaster> gumshoe is a bodyguard [17:07:43] <raynpelik0neet> yeah and died [17:07:53] <Oatsmaster> he protected someone which means he gets killed if the dude he is protecting is shot [17:07:05] <Oatsmaster> which means the dude he is protecting is confirmed town [18:11] <raynpelik0neet> Oats [18:12] <raynpelik0neet> how do you know gumshoe actually protected someone? Usually BG's do not get notification as they die. How would gumshoe know he protected someone succesfully? Do you know mafia hit someone else than gumshoe? [18:15] <Oatsmaster> lol easy game [18:15] <Oatsmaster> cause he said he did his job [18:15] <raynpelik0neet> .. [18:15] <Oatsmaster> ? [18:15] <raynpelik0neet> why would he know about a succesful protection? [18:16] <Oatsmaster> ah [18:16] <Oatsmaster> true [18:16] <Oatsmaster> but i dunno why gumshoe and not like 3 other dudes more townie [18:16] <raynpelik0neet> because blue? [18:16] <Oatsmaster> anyway it doesnt really matter [18:16] <raynpelik0neet> ofc it does [18:16] <Oatsmaster> cause I dunno who he protected [18:17] <raynpelik0neet> you said mafia hit someone else [18:17] <Oatsmaster> it matters if we know [18:17] <raynpelik0neet> when gumshoe can't know that [18:17] <Oatsmaster> we dont know [18:17] <Oatsmaster> oh the extra info [18:17] <Oatsmaster> right [18:17] <Oatsmaster> i would know who is confirmed town then wouldnt i [18:19] <raynpelik0neet> you kinda said [18:19] <raynpelik0neet> marv is [18:24] <Oatsmaster> i did [18:25] <Oatsmaster> but now I dont [18:25] <Oatsmaster> because no actual evidence [18:25] <Oatsmaster> just speculation Oats was sure gumshoe protected marv. Oats can't know if gumshoe in fact protected anyone and was not hit instead (remember, he was kinda known to be blue) unless he knows he protected someone. And suddenly it's not marv anymore. rofl. Oats is mafia. ##Unvote: ##Vote: Oatsmaster | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ace my man I thought your reveal was gonna have more... flair. Must say I'm dissapointed son. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=232671 | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:32 Ace wrote: I read it upside down. no idea. Pfffft I've known since this post. That's why I was dissapointed. | ||
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kushm4sta
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