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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
Uhm, sorry I don't want to circlejerk but I don't think that clears rayn 100%, that is all. xD I will be masoning him today. The hiro kill strikes me as really weird... maybe a vet got a good read on him, but he was completely off my radar. I messaged RoL asking but just fyi: Does the bodyguard show up as died in place of X when he protected someone? Or does it just show up as bodyguard has died either way? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
Well now that we know yamato is scum, sloosh is basically confirmed scum because of how hard yamato tried to save him d1. SLOOSH IS CONFIRMED SCUM PPL!!1 Also on the scumteam is Marv. In PMs with me he defended both sloosh and yamato. Also he has been uncharacteristically unconvincing regarding his scumreads. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On July 19 2013 12:33 VayneAuthority wrote: Already read yamato's filter its completely worthless. just him tunneling VE all day who is already dead. He makes some brief comments about other players but nothing concrete. rofl wut... he tunneled VE to save sloosh how is that not obvious to you | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On July 19 2013 12:41 kushm4sta wrote: rofl wut... he tunneled VE to save sloosh how is that not obvious to you I voted for sloosh yesterday so that's really not new information to me, It just solidifies my opinion of him. I was looking at the stuff regarding the other players. He just says yup lynch these dudes! and thats about it. doesnt say anything about their alignments. | ||
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kholly
United States74 Posts
On July 19 2013 12:26 kholly wrote: DoctorHelvetica VayneAuthority FirmTofu oh oops fixed. Why they are they bussing eachother? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On July 19 2013 13:56 Ace wrote: I'm a detective and I got a guilty result last night Lets go get him. Firmtofu right? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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slOosh
3291 Posts
Looking into layabout's voting post there are two things that stick out. On July 18 2013 09:55 layabout wrote: It is not without regret that i will be voting for VisceraEyes today. He made a claim that i see no good reason for town to make. He did not explain it. He did not attempt to confirm it. He simply used it for self preservation. Everytime time he does this i will vote for him. #vote: VisceraEyes First, there is an element of inherent guilt and the need to over justify himself. He fluffs up his words and his words look as if he wants to be seen taking a hard stance "I will be voting for VE today", and "I will vote for him". It's clear enough with hash tags and bold font, but layabout takes that extra step to make it look like he is assertive. + Show Spoiler [Meta Examples] + Roulette Mini, where he was town. It's to the point, no fluff. On June 05 2013 22:02 layabout wrote: Look at how nice this case looks. At a glance you might think that prplhz has made some reasonable point. But read it through again carefully. In fact prplhz just take a few small things that zephird has done makes wild inferences and to create scummyness where there is none.He deliberately fails to add context. ##unvote ##voteprplhz + Show Spoiler + You may note that prplhz is quite not commital but at that early stage in the game i consider that sensible and do not count it against him On June 06 2013 04:38 layabout wrote: In case i am not around: ##unvote ##vote raynpelikoneet On June 08 2013 07:02 layabout wrote: ##vote Oatsmaster jay be quiet the issue we are dealing with is Ace vs Oats everyone has made it quite clear that that's the lynch, there is no point pushing somebody else, it just add noise and confusion. Second is the particular way the post is structured. When you write a post, the most important things stick out in your mind first, so that's what you type first. layabout puts in his vote right after the line He made a claim that i see no good reason for town to make. He did not explain it. He did not attempt to confirm it. He simply used it for self preservation. makes the vote, and then throws in some more reasonings to fill out his post. In any case he felt the way that VE handled the claim was reason enough to vote, as evidenced by two of his prior posts: On July 18 2013 09:08 layabout wrote: If VE claims dayvig on day1 to save himself from the lynch shouldn't he fire at his scumread? If he is town then scum know about his role and as town we don't back off of a lynch because the person roleclaimed before we kicked the block from under they feet so that the noose would bite into their neck and cut the supply of air to the lungs and oxygen to the brain. a last minute claim does not a townie make particularly a non-confirmed confirmable claim. On July 18 2013 09:23 layabout wrote: I shall add that VE accepts responsibility for his part in being lynched right before he claims. This is important because the two actions do not fit. Accepting the threads decision is one way to go, he says what he wants to say and accepts the decision to lynch him. Then he follows it up with a roleclaim to keep himself alive. It is not helpful, he does not support it although he should be able to confirm it. If he is town he has not helped town with that claim as he should be able to. What he has does is give people a reason to doubt or take back their votes to look after himself. Yet after all is said and done, he switches his vote to MZ. And what's his reasoning? On July 18 2013 11:33 layabout wrote: kill meapak, he deserves to get lynched and the VE situation will likely resolve itself After already factored in the analysis of VE's claim, which was clearly the primary reason why he voted VE in the first place, he does a 180 and hops off the wagon and dismisses everything he has written prior. Layabout is someone who wants to make his posts look good but ultimately his actions and words don't match up. ##Vote: layabout @kholly Why did you switch to MZ and then back to VE without saying anything in thread? | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
Ace is your role sanity proof or it doesn't say anything? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
no idea. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
Let's go through a timeline shall we...? Night 1: Ace claimed investigator by saying he would investigate me. Ace "investigated" me. Ace returned with a scum result. Here's what I know: I know I am town. I know there is absolutely no reason for a blue role detective to say that he is going to investigate someone in a night phase. Here's what I think is happening: Ace deliberately hinted that he was a detective early on so that when he pushed for my lynch the following day and I slipped town, he can run around saying I got framed. Why will people believe this? Because Ace hinted at his role and I was an obvious framer target. For scum Ace, this is a win-win situation. He wastes an entire day by focusing a lynch on a town member AND he has an out to fall back on when I flip town, giving him a decent chance of surviving for a few additional nights. Could Ace be town detective? Sure. Is it likely that Ace would play so poorly as town by targetting the obvious framer target? No. ##Vote: Ace | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
Ace - Can you tell us more about your role? Is it alignment only? Is it role and alignment? Is it role only? (I mean you said guilty, you didn't say exactly what) Also why are you claiming right now? With PM and enough people already doubting FT in the thread there's no reason to reveal yourself... Uhh also why did Malongo say FT and then Ace said "good enough guess" and then voted for FT... This all looks rather fishy. >_<;; | ||
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kholly
United States74 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:41 Korynne wrote: Uh... wat. Ace - Can you tell us more about your role? Is it alignment only? Is it role and alignment? Is it role only? (I mean you said guilty, you didn't say exactly what) Also why are you claiming right now? With PM and enough people already doubting FT in the thread there's no reason to reveal yourself... Uhh also why did Malongo say FT and then Ace said "good enough guess" and then voted for FT... This all looks rather fishy. >_<;; What if he is just a voice for the real detective? | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
bold is corrected. I would like to add that I would have no reason to list 4 scumreads in the middle of the night if I was scum, especially considering who died. I will make it a point to not waste time defending myself because ultimately, it is just my word against Ace's. If town votes me, I'm not sure what I can do to stop it. I'm going to post all my updated reads(town included this time) and y'all can make the best use of it. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:37 FirmTofu wrote: Okay, I'm back. This is bad. We are going to end up wasting an entire day of potential discussion on why I am a good lynch... Let's go through a timeline shall we...? Night 1: Ace claimed investigator by saying he would investigate me. Ace "investigated" me. Ace returned with a scum result. Here's what I know: I know I am town. I know there is absolutely no reason for a blue role detective to say that he is going to investigate someone in a night phase. Here's what I think is happening: Ace deliberately hinted that he was a detective early on so that when he pushed for my lynch the following day and I slipped town, he can run around saying I got framed. Why will people believe this? Because Ace hinted at his role and I was an obvious framer target. For scum Ace, this is a win-win situation. He wastes an entire day by focusing a lynch on a town member AND he has an out to fall back on when I flip town, giving him a decent chance of surviving for a few additional nights. Could Ace be town detective? Sure. Is it likely that Ace would play so poorly as town by targetting the obvious framer target? No. ##Vote: Ace There is nothing to discuss actually, you said it one post later. Its just your word against Aces. Just for the record: Who told you there was a framer in this game? | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:42 kholly wrote: What if he is just a voice for the real detective? Then he can answer those questions for the real detective as well... I don't see what you're asking kholly. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
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