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On June 23 2013 08:38 Coagulation wrote:
he doesnt even give a shit if im town or not entire day 1. he took zero initiative to get a fucking read on me.... thats not townie marv.. I get drilled day 1 every game when he town.
Coag you are literally being the most useless player ever.
The only thing you have talked about is your vendetta on Marv. Then you randomly vote DP and you're trying to take all of the credit for nailing him when in fact you've done JACK SHIT this entire game. Please shut up and start playing the game.
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On June 23 2013 08:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 08:38 Coagulation wrote:
he doesnt even give a shit if im town or not entire day 1. he took zero initiative to get a fucking read on me.... thats not townie marv.. I get drilled day 1 every game when he town. That's a flat-out lie.
Uh noperz
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On June 23 2013 08:41 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 08:39 marvellosity wrote:On June 23 2013 08:38 Coagulation wrote:
he doesnt even give a shit if im town or not entire day 1. he took zero initiative to get a fucking read on me.... thats not townie marv.. I get drilled day 1 every game when he town. That's a flat-out lie. Uh noperz
Go find me our interactions in that omgus game then. I'll wager you'll find practically nothing. "Yepperz"
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I've given up on you and I've given up on omgus, because no-one there plays the game, and if they do play the game it's merely to call other people mafia with no reason / bad reasoning / lies.
The worst of it is, I can't even take the no reasoning / bad reasoning / lies as a scumtell, because it's just a habitual thing.
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SOMEBODY PLEASE SHOOT COAG
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And if you're not capable of understanding this with how the last game I played there went down, you're absolutely insane.
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The day post will be delayed by an hour or two. Actions will still be due at the previously given time.
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Well, Dimitri, every search for a hero must begin with something every hero needs, a villain. So in a search for our hero, Marvellosity, we have created a more effective monster: Coagulation.
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On June 23 2013 08:43 marvellosity wrote:
I've given up on you and I've given up on omgus, because no-one there plays the game, and if they do play the game it's merely to call other people mafia with no reason / bad reasoning / lies.
The worst of it is, I can't even take the no reasoning / bad reasoning / lies as a scumtell, because it's just a habitual thing.
so you fucking admit your acting fucking different to me now. and I dont give a shit what you say about the skill level at omgus that has nothing to do with this game.
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Coag, at a certain point, if you want to call marv scum, do so sanely and constructively. Because the whole
foaming at the mouth "marv is scum trolololololol" doesn't really cut it for me, nor for the rest of the people here.
I also still don't understand the giant gap in analysis that you have regarding the DP vote - your analysis and thought process is literally only valid if GK isn't mafia.
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On June 23 2013 08:55 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 08:43 marvellosity wrote:
I've given up on you and I've given up on omgus, because no-one there plays the game, and if they do play the game it's merely to call other people mafia with no reason / bad reasoning / lies.
The worst of it is, I can't even take the no reasoning / bad reasoning / lies as a scumtell, because it's just a habitual thing. so you fucking admit your acting fucking different to me now. and I dont give a shit what you say about the skill level at omgus that has nothing to do with this game.
So how about going to find that interaction we had on Day 1 in that game? For the third time at least: you're gonna find nothing.
My plan ever since internally groaning when I saw you sign up was to ignore you until I had good reasons to possibly think you were mafia. Which I still don't have. Get over it.
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By the way coag, it's nothing to do with skill level, and everything to do with effort.
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Well marv next time maybe you should say something like "btw coag I will be ignoring you because I dont like you anymore" instead of just acting all awkward about shit and pussy footing around the issue and coming off as super scummy to me. I cant be expected to keep track of all the people that I butt hurt on a game to game basis.
or wait.... maybe I can.
On June 23 2013 08:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
SOMEBODY PLEASE SHOOT COAG
OK.
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It's also nothing to do with liking you, dear. I think you're lovely. I think the effort you put into a game of mafia makes you a tool within that game of mafia, and that's it. I'm really surprised you couldn't sense some of this from our last game together, and hence I don't understand in any way whatsoever why it would be a surprise to you that I've behaved as I have towards you.
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Anyhoo, back tomorrow guise.
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Everyone take a chill pill. We just lynched scum.
Obviously the pool of players we should look into tomorrow is the non DarthPunk voters, since it was an extremely close lynch (which includes goodkarma). It is also very foolish to say we should auto lynch goodkarma - to say that is to say that we split 10 votes between 2 mafia, which is possible, but quite unlikely, and to say this without pause is disconcerting.
cora, I don't think you should claim. (** I want to talk about this post game please remind me about this post then **)
goodkarma, you have some extra work ahead of you. Don't worry so much about defending yourself as finding suspects amongst your wagon, ok?
If we have prot type roles, please prot Ange. She is too cool for school.
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rofl. G am dsunk amwd thais was goodm. If viagi shoot coag plz.
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p.s.
Marv's point about cora is pertinent here. Cora thought DP was town, but didn't (or couldn't) make an effort to move the lynch onto goodkarma. If anything that is some town points. Cora you don't look as bad (at least to me) as you may think.
Let's not waste this night. I want discussion about tomorrow's lynch to happen tonight before the NKs.
I forsaw Oats' mislynch in Roulette but didn't voice it, so this time I'll go on record and say that my #1 preference for tomorrow isn't goodkarma or cora. Reasoning / backup will follow later when I have more time (but if I can't, put this in your back pocket as consideration).
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I'd shoot into 8 other players before shooting Coag.
Seriously guys, don't let emotions derail proper thinking.
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Well I think it's safe to say that whatever GK's alignment is, there's a very low chance that there is scum on the DP wagon. It makes very little sense to bus an asset to your team, much less when that asset is the godfather.
What this does tell me is that the scum-team is probably passive and/or bad at pushing their agenda. The DP wagon was allowed to form at the last minute with very little interference, and that should inform us about our scum-suspects moving forward.
So regarding non-DP voters (not including myself):
Corazon - I really don't see the scum in his filter. Hard-defending a scum-buddy (especially when DP was on track to be lynched) would be a very brave thing to pull off.
Marv - If marv was scum, I don't know how we would have ended up lynching DP. Marv is a fairly pro-active scum player and great at pushing his agenda. Furthermore, his interactions and thoughts seemed fairly genuine. There's nothing illogical or scummy about how his end-of-the-day voting actions or suspicions. He seemed pretty interested in figuring out the game.
Reyn - Behaviorally, he's very aggressive. I had assumed this was townie up until now, and I still think it is. I'll read through him one more time just to be sure.
Adam - Is null.
Shiao - Ditto.
GoodKarma - I still believe he's scum for all the reasons I've discussed before. He voted Shiao and never pushed his case. He just kinda fucked off, which is fairly normal for a scum GK.
Oats - When I read over Oats filter, it reads very similarly to DP's filter. He's active, spammy, but isn't really pushing his suspicions. In the last game I played with him (I Swear Mini), he would lock on and tunnel people to death, constantly screaming bloody murder about his targets being scum. He did it to GK, BH, and Myself, all really early in the game. He's relentless and completely uncompromising about his suspicions.
So we have a good idea that Yamato is town this game, and Oats has thought he was suspicious most (if not all) of the game. However reading his filter (especially the latter parts of his push on page 5-6 of his filter), his play doesn't have the same abrasiveness "FUCK YOU U SCUM BISSHHHHH" attitude that I'd expect of Oats.
Furthermore, I think this is a scumclaim from him:
On June 23 2013 02:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
##unvote
##vote:oo
CONSOLIDATION
Consider Oats - the most uncompromising, unreasonable, relentless player, who has gone after Yamato all game, all of a sudden dropping all of his yamato suspicions and considers voting ObviousOne. While Oats ends up re-voting yamato a couple of posts later, the fact that he's even considering a lynch option on another player is very strange. Much less when you consider the things Oats has actually said about OO:
On June 23 2013 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
why are you not posting about who is scum OO
On June 23 2013 01:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
cause he doesnt want to derail lynch train on OO which you guys successfully did. Well done.
Notice OO is gone.
In Oat's entire filter, that's all he posted that could even be constructed of suspicion about OO. The fact that he could even consider unvoting Yamato on this evidence makes me think that Oats is scum.
As a second point, I believe there's an association case to be made about DP/Oats. Both interact with each other a lot, and at times imply suspicion on each other, but never really say anything definitive about each others' alignments.
One exchange that stuck out to me was this:
On June 23 2013 01:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
marv is scum
Why the fuck are you lynching DP.
why.
Its so fucking easy to comment on the hapa case.
On June 23 2013 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
So yamato thinks DP is scum because his interest has waned. Interesting.
On June 23 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
well basically my point about asking yamato is because he doesnt have enough content in his filter about DP to replace a case. Just general impression "NOT INTERESTED IN THE GAME". Which is highly subjective. Also he never asks DP anything. Notice that Yamato only votes for DP after he is under some pressure.
On June 23 2013 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
so how in the world do you think yamato is town when he is blatantly wrong about the interested thing? And yamato isnt bad at the game.
I dont get how in the world you think yamato is town man. I dont. He has twice now made a case or something on someone and within a page, unvoted them off like 1 post. He stopped talking about DP now that we arent gonna lynch him. He is utterly useless. This guy is SCUM
On June 23 2013 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
I kinda think hes scum for thinking yamato is town.
Also random vote on DP for no reason.
But its marv.
I dont know.
He's clearly defending DP here and completely chainsaw's Yamato for attacking DP.
However, Oats NEVER mentions that he thinks DP is town throughout his ENTIRE filter!!!!!!! He repeatedly calls the cases against DP bad and uses them as a platform to attack Yamato (who is very likely town).
Hell Oats has expressed suspicion of DP in his filter several times in the early game, which this exchange so strange.
There are little things in DP's filter as well that go the opposite way. Where he's repeatedly suspicious of Oats but fails to ever give a clear, coherent answer about it.
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