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First thing's first:
I'm sorry all for not being around close to the lynch deadline  .
I know that I almost got mislynched for it, and almost turned into a liability. I'll step up my efforts tonight, as this lynch provided LOADS of information for me to look into.
On June 23 2013 10:36 slOosh wrote:
Everyone take a chill pill. We just lynched scum.
Obviously the pool of players we should look into tomorrow is the non DarthPunk voters, since it was an extremely close lynch (which includes goodkarma). It is also very foolish to say we should auto lynch goodkarma - to say that is to say that we split 10 votes between 2 mafia, which is possible, but quite unlikely, and to say this without pause is disconcerting.
cora, I don't think you should claim. (** I want to talk about this post game please remind me about this post then **)
goodkarma, you have some extra work ahead of you. Don't worry so much about defending yourself as finding suspects amongst your wagon, ok?
If we have prot type roles, please prot Ange. She is too cool for school.
I'm on it sloosh. I'm going to take a shower, and start writing up a post soon thereafter. Probably have something posted in the next couple hours.
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oooooh oats thats looking bad for u man
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hapa is bad or scum.
probably scum.
Whoop.
Why?
1. Consolidation is a good thing.
2. Meta needs to be compared with my scum games too.
3. Early d1 and late d1 reads change. I did say that I thought DP was town. Also I was asking marv how he thought yamato was town and I pointed out the scummy stuff... CONTEXT BOY.
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Oats is town and whatever you say Hapa is not gonna change that.
You are scum.
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A little more on association between Oats/DP:
Oats is repeatedly poking and suspicious of DP, especially in the early-game:
+ Show Spoiler +On June 21 2013 14:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
#unvote
Dont hipster vote cora.
DP and hapa are scum.
On June 21 2013 15:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
well Hapa says im a policy lynch then like a few minutes later says hes not gonna vote for an obv townie when its clear that Im not gonna get lynched today.
I dont get his attitude this game, its like really angry and stuff and not happy hapa.
DP currently has no scum reads after unvoting yamato. I dont see why he dropped that push. Nothing makes me think that yamato is bad rather than scum.
On June 21 2013 15:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cora is town.
Yamato is scum.
DP and Hapa might be scum.
Then at some point, he starts being the grand defender of DP by shutting down any and all suspicion on him... all while NEVER calling DP town at any point in the game!
+ Show Spoiler +On June 21 2013 18:44 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 18:43 marvellosity wrote:On June 21 2013 18:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
marv,
how do you get the conclusion that yamato is over-confident from him saying he has no clue who is SCUM and only who is town?
Also why is shiao pi scum?
Because yamato is handing out townreads like candy, as if he can read that many people that quickly. Shiao is mafia for that horrible, lazy comment on yamato, with no followup. you know, he didnt really say everyone was town, he said that DP and coag didnt look like town. Dont you think his reasons for calling DP scum bullshit? On June 22 2013 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Let me explain.
Yamato just started posting bullshit when I switched on to him, and the amount of agression and attack hapa and DP showed forced me rethink my reads.
On June 23 2013 01:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok misread that. whoops.
Anyway. Case on DP. Now. On June 23 2013 01:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
marv is scum
Why the fuck are you lynching DP.
why.
Its so fucking easy to comment on the hapa case. On June 23 2013 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
So yamato thinks DP is scum because his interest has waned. Interesting.
On June 23 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
well basically my point about asking yamato is because he doesnt have enough content in his filter about DP to replace a case. Just general impression "NOT INTERESTED IN THE GAME". Which is highly subjective. Also he never asks DP anything. Notice that Yamato only votes for DP after he is under some pressure. On June 23 2013 01:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Is DP interested Marv? On June 23 2013 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
so how in the world do you think yamato is town when he is blatantly wrong about the interested thing? And yamato isnt bad at the game.
I dont get how in the world you think yamato is town man. I dont. He has twice now made a case or something on someone and within a page, unvoted them off like 1 post. He stopped talking about DP now that we arent gonna lynch him. He is utterly useless. This guy is SCUM On June 23 2013 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
I kinda think hes scum for thinking yamato is town.
Also random vote on DP for no reason.
But its marv.
I dont know.
This also occurs in DP's filter. He expresses moderate suspicion of Oats early on:
On June 21 2013 14:33 DarthPunk wrote:I said you were scummy. not scum. You are always scummy though. so you're still null for me. The point Was that it is difficult to see through blatantly scummy shit like retarded tunnells and shitting up the thread enough to make a town read straight up. Especially when your town game is similar to your scum game in a lot of ways. Like I know you always play scummy. But would you expect obvious to know that and to give you a town read in the context of the thread? I wouldn't. and that is what is off about the whole thing.
...and then poof! That's it! No more!
He starts interacting with Oats from time to time, but never mentions anything resembling a read on Oats, or even an opinion. There's even this gem that ObviousOne pointed out earlier:
On June 21 2013 14:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 14:21 yamato77 wrote:On June 21 2013 14:19 DarthPunk wrote:
I don't know if it's just me but every time i play with obvious I want to lynch him. Is this game inclusive in that vague statement, perchance? Obviously, or why would I say it? I didn't like how he just came into the thread with a town read on fucking scummy oates with all this reasoning. Seemed contrived to me. Like his first post is this big thought out town read on the guy shitting up the thread. That kush thing pissed me off too.
Offers some random non-read on Oats that somewhat implies suspicion but in reality says nothing.
For the amount that Oats and DP interact in the thread, there's markedly little of substance. Thay have these random casual conversations, never give opinions on one another, and trust each other way too much given the suspicion they imply on each other.
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On June 23 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rofl. G am dsunk amwd thais was goodm. If viagi shoot coag plz.
On June 23 2013 11:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats is town and whatever you say Hapa is not gonna change that.
You are scum.
I see you sobered up real quick rayn. Care to tell me why're you're faking your drunkenness?
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FU. I just got home from midsummer party. You din't even vote for DP.
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I thought DP was scum on the 21 of june and town on the 22nd of June.
Look we are scumbuddies right? So why did I forget that I thought he was suspicious? When Im playing scum, I only forget whether I think town are suspicious. I rarely defend scumbuddy.
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Also you never changed a read slowly because you just kept posting with this person and he agrees with you and whatnot? Considering hes in the same Timezone as me.
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On June 23 2013 11:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
FU. I just got home from midsummer party. You din't even vote for DP.
As for not voting DP... so what? Neither did you. And that goes for everyone but five people in the thread.
Now be a good boy and
a) Tell me what's with this fake-drunkenness stunt you're pulling and
b) Why is my case on Oats bad?
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On June 23 2013 11:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thoughts on Marv Hapa?
Marv - If marv was scum, I don't know how we would have ended up lynching DP. Marv is a fairly pro-active scum player and great at pushing his agenda. Furthermore, his interactions and thoughts seemed fairly genuine. There's nothing illogical or scummy about how his end-of-the-day voting actions or suspicions. He seemed pretty interested in figuring out the game.
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a) why is it afake drunkenness to you? there is nothing to prove.
b) because otas is town and you are mafia.
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I dont agree with the first part, I think marv tried plenty hard to lynch GK rather than DP.
Then again, marv always looks town as scum d1. I hope he gets shot.
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On June 23 2013 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also you never changed a read slowly because you just kept posting with this person and he agrees with you and whatnot? Considering hes in the same Timezone as me.
You're usually really, really good about voiding your opinions on reads. You've explicitly called several people town this game, and I have a really hard time believing that you failed to do it with DarthPunk.
You had plenty of instances to do it. Look how many times you offhandedly dismissed Yamato's suspicions, all without ever saying that you thought DP was town? Really?
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Why wouldnt I do it with DP when my attitude is CLEARLY that he is town? Do you think it makes more sense as scum or town to 'forget' to call DP town?
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dont argue with scum oats.
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On June 23 2013 11:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why wouldnt I do it with DP when my attitude is CLEARLY that he is town? Do you think it makes more sense as scum or town to 'forget' to call DP town?
Much more from a scum perspective (hence the case).
I've never seen you shy about voicing your opinions on someone's alignment ever before.
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So I dont call him town because I wanna switch onto him? I dont get it. Explain why please.
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I've never seen you shy about voicing your opinions on someone's alignment ever before.
Ok if I were to tell you that unintentionally didnt call DP town, what changes?
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