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shirokami
Finland107 Posts
his last post, and overall thoughts about everything happened last night. | ||
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Vivax
21699 Posts
On May 14 2013 00:19 shirokami wrote: + Show Spoiler + his last post, and overall thoughts about everything happened last night. What's the problem with his last post? Who do you think is scum? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Look bandwagons happen bra. If a scum is caught by 1 thing he does, there's not going to be 9 unique reasons for voting for the scum. It's D1 sir, and the game just started. Allow me to flip the script on you for a second Oats...I don't like you defending Wave so passively. It comes across as you having more information than me because you aren't explaining why you don't like my reasoning or why you think I'm wrong. You're just throwing shit on me (calling my vote bandwagony) and it stinks. ##FoS Oats | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
No read on either yet since they have said nothing about nothing but people to keep in mind. Shiro, I want your reads on someone who I haven't mentioned yet. Your pick. Tell me what you think about this persona dn why you think that. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On May 14 2013 00:26 VisceraEyes wrote: @Oats Look bandwagons happen bra. If a scum is caught by 1 thing he does, there's not going to be 9 unique reasons for voting for the scum. It's D1 sir, and the game just started. Allow me to flip the script on you for a second Oats...I don't like you defending Wave so passively. It comes across as you having more information than me because you aren't explaining why you don't like my reasoning or why you think I'm wrong. You're just throwing shit on me (calling my vote bandwagony) and it stinks. ##FoS Oats yeah man I hold all the cards. Playing you like puppets. Claiming scum in thread is not alignment indicative, WoS being a dick isnt really alignment indicative more of a meta tell I feel, but he aint got scum meta. Mostly the reason why I said it was bandwagony is because you are repeating all arguments other dudes make. Scum love to overexplain a simple thing cause CONTENT. | ||
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shirokami
Finland107 Posts
On May 13 2013 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well everyone who has posted so far besides you are probably town. I'm off to bed, cya tomorrow. This one is saying everyone who posted early is town, but I dont really think he thinks that everyone who did not post is scum. I have played with him few games so I just want to hear what he has to say. about scum, im still trying to filter-read, but now Im looking at people who have voted, and who have been voted. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 13 2013 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno what to make of it. Maybe he will explain it, maybe not, i'll judge later. I'm more interested in DP defending his claim as "what only townie would do" and then saying he is a good scum player and would never draw attention to himself like that as scum. If he thinks this is optimal town play, why so defensive? And calling people who think claiming miller is scummy stupid/scum is ridiculous. I would atm lynch him based purely on that. Like right here. He has a couple of posts like this that display flippant disregard to what others think of him, and frankly we can do better for lynch today I think. He gots to come in here and verify this by being active D1, though. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On May 13 2013 23:40 Promethelax wrote: also WoS, I know this might come as a shock but Ace gets away with acting like an asshole by also being 1. hilarious and 2. really damn good at the game. You need to knock it off with your petulance and play the game. If you want to be considered good you have to earn it. I'm bored with your antics. Scum or town knock it off now. I'm bored with your lessons and you telling me how to play. I haven't had the time to do much game analysis yet but I will. Expect it later. I've said these things before and I'll say them again: I never lie, and I don't respond to threats. If you and everyone else would rather lynch me first then go ahead by all means. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On May 13 2013 17:52 Oatsmaster wrote: He posted that shit about not wanting to post during the night and wait for the flips. Yeah... Scum wants to waste time, town doesnt. Also he said that there were certain people suspciously interacting with kita, but never bothered to elaborate. He seems to jump all over the place, no pressure on anyone so far and just useless/scummy. I always play like that, regardless of town or scum. I do not care about "scumtells" here or playstyles since frankly I don't know many of you yet just starting here. All I can go off of is night killings and lynchings and how they pertain to how people acted. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
Who did you look into who had weird interactions with kita? Why is that person scum? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On May 14 2013 00:46 Promethelax wrote: Great Vayne. So how did they act? There were two night kills what did you learn? Because I have to read you too and you have given me a lot of nothing to work on. Who did you look into who had weird interactions with kita? Why is that person scum? The post you 'lololol'ed at contains most of your answers :/ as I said my situation was different in the interaction in that I was responding to him directly, whereas prphlz went out of his way to address kita | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
In almost every game I have played, all of the wagons that have a chance of getting me mislynched early are started by scum. See: kita in The Game. Tunkeg in Ego Mini. I feel like there's another good example but I can't think of it right now. Prom if you'd like proof of this I can post links and shit later on. Here's one actually. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402057¤tpage=64#1272 | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On May 13 2013 13:49 Oatsmaster wrote: That was the absolutely worst vig shot in the history of mafia On May 13 2013 13:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Or scum decided to kill a dude under pressure. How can it be both a bad vig shot and a bad scum shot? This makes no sense at all. In light of the DarthPunk flip I went back and reread people's stances on him. Because he had so much spotlight on him, scum would be compelled to make an opinion on him, or at least comment on him. What is important is to see how people justify their suspicions / read on him - town players have straightforward explanations while mafia try to make stuff up. Out of them, rayn sticks out the most: On May 13 2013 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's not optimal. It's stupid or mafia. This is a classic mafia tactic. Push and lynch people for being bad, not scum. On May 13 2013 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean it's not optimal to claim miller if you don't know the exact number of delf-aware millers. What Hiro said, it only allows mafia to get away with claiming it right in the beginning. If you are town you should never be checked by a cop. Here rayn implicitly calls DarthPunk mafia without actually doing so. He is pushing the idea that because it is "not optimal" that he is scum upon a ridiculous premise. "If you are town you shouldn't be checked". Read that out loud to yourself. It's nonsense. If that was the case then cops would always land red checks. Rayn is justifying his vote with bad (read non existent) reasoning. On May 13 2013 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno what to make of it. Maybe he will explain it, maybe not, i'll judge later. I'm more interested in DP defending his claim as "what only townie would do" and then saying he is a good scum player and would never draw attention to himself like that as scum. If he thinks this is optimal town play, why so defensive? And calling people who think claiming miller is scummy stupid/scum is ridiculous. I would atm lynch him based purely on that. Avoiding giving opinions on kitaman(!!!) and draws attention back on DarthPunk. Then proceeds to ask a loaded question. On May 13 2013 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: How about you stop defending your sole action and start scumhunting instead? Another loaded question, pushing suspicion on him without any justification. ##Vote raynpelikoneet | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On May 13 2013 14:30 ObviousOne wrote: @SNB Hi, your town credit via gif just expired, let's hear you give the old scum hunting a whirl. Who do you want to vote today, and why, lay it out for me along with another suspect. So far your contributions add up to what looks like a 180 on DP (you call his statement that he is a bad policy lynch suspicious but then tell me that lynching him D1 if he doesn't die N0 is stupid) in a matter of a handful of posts and your stance on him was never clear. The conversation immediately got buried by gifs, so it's time for you to take a stance on something. Go. regarding the "flipflop" - lolno. I can simultaneously believe that him saying "i'm a bad lynch" is stupid and that you saying "we should lynch him if he doesn't die n0 because of his miller claim" is stupid. those are both stupid things to say. like, anyone who thinks they have a coherent theory of the scum team at this point is lying either to you or to themselves. we have no flipped scum to build association cases on, we dont even have any really good cases on individual players to build associations on. this is still the stage of the game where we should be looking at everyone who does something scummy or suspicious, even if those scummy things are conflicting. anyway i thought i made my stance on him pretty clear when i said i agreed with his reasoning for claiming miller. his claim was the main reason people wanted to lynch him afaik, so if i'm saying i think that he was right and they were wrong, i probably dont want to lynch him. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On May 13 2013 23:38 Oatsmaster wrote: I say we lynch him for this really fucking bad attitude and promises that he is giving. I dont like promises. this may be the single worst post in the thread | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Day 1 wagons With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch. ObviousOne[L-9]: Promethelax WaveofShadow[L-7]: Blazinghand, Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes raynpelikoneet[L-8]: chaoser, slOosh Day 1 ends Wednesday, May 15 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) if no majority is reached | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On May 13 2013 13:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Also someone stole my fucking vote  . Joke's on them though, I never actually vote for scum. how did this go by without any comment not having played in many games with vote stealers before I don't know what the analysis is, but why would someone steal oats's vote? instead of someone who is actually good at finding scum? Does fakeclaiming having your vote stolen give an excuse to insta-hammer someone? it seems like a decent scum tactic. I really don't like the way this claim went down. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On May 14 2013 00:48 VayneAuthority wrote: The post you 'lololol'ed at contains most of your answers :/ as I said my situation was different in the interaction in that I was responding to him directly, whereas prphlz went out of his way to address kita you calling an eighteen page thread huge is hilarious. You'll see. So prp is scum because of the Kita kill, what about people's interactions with DP? Why did his kill not factor into your analysis? WoS: if everyone who has started the wagons on you has been scum are you suggesting kita is scum? (obviously not but I have no idea what you are trying to suggest. Who is scum for pushing you?) prp and SnB, welcome back. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the leading vote owners and another player of your choice. You both know the drill. Reads and reasons. | ||
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slOosh
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