Sloosh will lurk if he's scum. Gonna be skurred. Much like my scum play.
Sinani will lurk period. Plays from his phone only. Posts infrequently. His longest filter to date was in a scum game though (RTP) so we will see where the cards fall as the game progresses.
Going to sleep. Anyone else who wants to be dismantled today feel free to vote for me so I know who to look at. Thanks.

Vivax

22089 Posts

May 13 2013 09:22 GMT

#402

Just kidding Prom, I still don't know yet

, but I'm in for the deal.

There's one thing I want to say regarding this DP NK: You used it as a means to defend Rayn cause you argue that scum wouldn't kill their official lynch choices.

I disagree, DP as a player, not as a role is worth getting rid of, and getting rid of their lynch targets is no problem for scum, there is plenty of material to start bullshit cases elsewhere anyway, if they have to. I don't feel DP was at much danger of getting lynched, and calling him scum forces scum to stay active for them to make it look like a legit scumread.

I'd prefer if you argued for Rayn being town with something else than connection. But I'm waiting for him to respond to my accusations anyway, and I might post stuff regarding other posts he wrote later.

Sinani contributes at least a little in his town games, and SlOosh is an experienced player. I wouldn't like them if they stayed absent.

Prom, what do you think of prplhz instead?

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

May 13 2013 09:22 GMT

#403

so you've been here through all these conversations between me/vivax me/oats and now bh and haven't said anything? And I'm already voting you but I don't feel very dismantled. What gives?

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

May 13 2013 09:24 GMT

#404

As I said, I don't see rayn as totes town or anything silly like that. I just don't think he is most likely scum with how he pressured DP and interacted with him. It seemed like a genuine desire to push DP and not a time waster/look active kind of push.
You think Rayn likely staged his push on DP and followed it up by killing him?

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

May 13 2013 09:30 GMT

#405

I'm been playing Portal. What the problem is? Play Portal, read the thread, post, go sleep, wake up, drink coffee, tear you down. All I see is vague you don't like my posts accusations and that is weak. Please fully flesh it out for me. Thanks bro. See you in a bit.

Dunked.

Vivax

22089 Posts

May 13 2013 09:30 GMT

#406

On May 13 2013 18:24 Promethelax wrote:
As I said, I don't see rayn as totes town or anything silly like that. I just don't think he is most likely scum with how he pressured DP and interacted with him. It seemed like a genuine desire to push DP and not a time waster/look active kind of push.
You think Rayn likely staged his push on DP and followed it up by killing him?

What matters for Rayn is that he had a reason to look like he's contributing. He doesn't need a strong player to stay alive just cause he's pushing him.

I didn't like his entrance in the first place. "DP stupid or scum" and fucks off, I think WoS picked up on that, wanting him to specify, upon which he said "yes, scum", then I asked if he truly believes that his role name for miller is fake, and I got back the hostile response which I see as scummy.

I'm used to Rayn being more willingly engaged into conversation than that when he's town, and I wouldn't expect him to look for reasons for being asked out about his scumread, he should be persuading people to vote for it, not trying to avoid the issue.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

May 13 2013 09:33 GMT

#407

I'm pretty sure that prplhz is town. His scum game usually pushes an early policy lynch and focuses on that. As a townie he believes that all policy lynches are dumb.

On November 15 2011 19:17 prplhz wrote:
I think any policy lynch is stupid, and LAW (lynch-all-wherebugsgos) is one of the more stupid policies to lynch by. You want to just lock down the lynch on him without any discussion? Then how are we supposed to catch scum? If we lynch him based on nothing (he hasn't posted in the thread yet) then there's like 22% chance that he will be scum. That means that you want to sacrifice the following:

1 cycle of discussion
1 townie from NK

... in exchange for the following:

22% chance to hit a scum, a whopping 78% chance to hit a townie.

Tell me why you think this is a good deal? I am quite aware that Palmar is just trying to make discussion, so am I, now lets discuss.

In this game he has instead countered the policy lynch and provided some thoughts. He hasn't impressed me by any means but I don't want to lynch him.

I also liked that his last post was towards Kita and VE, if he was scum those are the people he'd least want to look at him. They are two of the best, if not the two best, players in this thread.

Now you do SnB and tell me why you picked prplhz.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

May 13 2013 09:36 GMT

#408

The problem, OO, is that you are being a useless monkey but felt it necessary to show up in the thread to announce your presence and look involved. Your post didn't even indicate that you knew anyone was voting for you. You are being very defensive and while it didn't ring false to me early it does now.

Who do you think is scum and why?

I'm curious to see what Rayn says in response to your accusations Vivax. I'd like to get a better read on him but I still don't think he is most likely to flip scum. OO and WoS are simply better targets for this lynch.

Vivax

22089 Posts

May 13 2013 09:39 GMT

#409

SnB didn't contribute anything meaningful at this point. That's as much as I can tell. Waiting for day-contributions.

Picked prplhz cause he gave me the impression of trying to look tryhard-townie without actually doing much. He doesn't really give any fucks when he's town so that set off alarms. I'm thinking about personality 2, he would usually pop in with some post to say something, quite regularly.

Here he starts with some tryhard looking posts about general advice and fucks off.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

May 13 2013 09:46 GMT

#410

Yeah his advice posts struck me as pretty bad on my original thread read though and he may have changed his meta since it got him stomped in LIX but since I haven't seen evidence of that meta changing I'm happy to call him an early town read and see if he does anything to show me I'm right or convince me I'm wrong.

Shouldn't you have something on SnB given that he was here and did say things before doing nothing meaningful. How is someone saying nothing meaningful alignment null?

Vivax

22089 Posts

May 13 2013 09:47 GMT

#411

Yeah I could totally get behind a prplhz lynch I think. His abrupt stopping after asking some (I think) unanswered questions is fuel for the fire.

Let's see what he has to say.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

May 13 2013 09:48 GMT

#412

I see that more as him simply leaving. The abrupt stop is pretty null to me since its a thing that happens to us all. Real life calls.

Vivax

22089 Posts

May 13 2013 09:49 GMT

#413

Trying to look townie and confronting scumreads N0 is a dangerous business if you hold onto your life. Prplhzs pseudo-contributions look worse than S & B openly not giving much of a fuck, so I'll wait to see what he brings to the table during the day.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

May 13 2013 09:50 GMT

#414

Fair enough. How do you feel about the totally inactive Bill Murray who after the day post has posted a total of two words.

Vivax

22089 Posts

May 13 2013 10:08 GMT

#415

DP's scumreads: OO, Rayn suspicious

Kita: WoS, DP, Vayne, Chaoser

WoS said kita had painted a target on his back cause of activity:

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 13 2013 15:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
BH you and I are on seemingly exact wavelengths this game. Not sure what to make of that.

I wasn't sure as to whether or not kita was town or scum but I know he was a good kill for mafia. DP not so much due to thread sentiment, but I do believe they were likely both scum NKs, no vig involved. Personally if scum were thinking like me I think they'd basically assume DP was town and that town KNEW he was town; and letting him get away as an active (assume-confirmed) townie is a no-no as scum. I'm not sure it was a good play as scum though since it essentially destroys any hope of them trying to secure the miller mislynch today, especially since there were definitely some townies who may have been on board for that, but DP is a valuable townie so we're at a loss for sure in the end.

This is essentially why I was wondering whether it was a good idea to bother starting up conversation before the N0 NKs; it essentially assured the mafia that kita/DP would be good first kills due to their activity. It's probable that other strong townies will pop up as the game goes on but the two of them painted massive targets on their backs imo.

Putting this out here for the WoS-lynchers. I might have to review OO and him more closely. Any thoughts?

This made me laugh

Personally if scum were thinking like me I think they'd basically assume DP was town

chaoser

United States5541 Posts

May 13 2013 11:04 GMT

#416

leaving for work, but before I do,
##Vote raynpelikoneet

chaoser

United States5541 Posts

May 13 2013 11:26 GMT

#417

also I was roleblocked last night

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

May 13 2013 12:23 GMT

#418

Day 1 wagons

With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

ObviousOne[L-9]: Promethelax
WaveofShadow[L-9]: Blazinghand
raynpelikoneet[L-9]: chaoser

Day 1 ends Wednesday, May 15 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) if no majority is reached

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 13 2013 12:30 GMT

#419

I think OO is town because he is being very active and very aggressive. That's not his scum style.
Also he is saying some profoundly retarded things. Like about how DP might be godfather... just seems more townie to say dumb shit like that.