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AHHHH YEAAAHHH!
Finally KT got a win!!!
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If the team makes it to the ace match I really cant see complaining about them losing. It was a full set of games and both teams played well with a good chance for either to win. It just was not the day for EG
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The 6th Set link is incorrect and links instead to the CJ vs Samsung Khan game betwenn SkyHigh and RoRo. This is the link you want.
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At least flash could be beaten
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On April 17 2013 11:35 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 14:45 GolemMadness wrote:On April 16 2013 11:11 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 16 2013 10:37 lichter wrote:On April 16 2013 03:26 blade55555 wrote:On April 16 2013 02:48 tuho12345 wrote:On April 16 2013 02:46 EpiK wrote:On April 16 2013 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote:On April 15 2013 22:53 Slardar wrote: Oh my God we couldn't close it out after 3-0? Dammit all....they should've put HerO as the Ace though. As much as I love JD, he's quite unreliable in ZvP he's a prime snipe candidate. Yeah, Jaedong was a very questionable ace match choice due to this ZvP. coach park might've been expecting flash even if it was Flash, there is no way JD can beat Flash in a macro game. He got lucky once cuz Flash didn't pay attention to 5 hellions and 2 WM but man such a stupid choice to use JD for an expecting ZvZ. LOL. I love people who are so delusional about flash. Yes jaedong can beat flash in a macro game I can guarantee it. People seem to have this odd illusion that jaedongs bad zvp = he's bad at everything else. So hilarious how delusional people like you are about Flash or jaedong in general. I will say really sad to see egtl go from 3-0 to lose 4-3 and I really wish jaedong would improve that zvp T_T. He's 1-5 in Ace matches I keep hearing he is clutch but I am just not seeing it. He is constantly letting his team down. He missed Code S by a game twice and choked against Life in the finals of MLG. Being clutch doesn't mean that you win every single important game. Look at his list of accomplishments. You don't get that by being someone who can't handle high pressure situations and important games. The first time he lost in U&D's he was still very new to the game (he was one of very few to make it through the qualifiers on his first try, and he only didn't make it through because of the tiebreaker system). The second time, he won his final two games in the group, but again only didn't make it because of the tiebreaker system. As for him choking against Life... Seriously? He'd played the expansion for two days and lost to the best player on the planet in a 4-2 series. If you consider that to be choking, then I guess that every time someone loses a game they choked instead of simply being outplayed. It doesn't mean you should win every single game but I would expect at least 50%. He is no where near that. My point about the up and downs is that he lost by so little meaning that he couldn't lift himself to that extra level when it really mattered. As for his series against Life he played awful. He didn't scout, split against banelings or adapt to Life's play. It was just pathetic and the only reason he won two games were because of Life's failed 10 pool and a cheese. Life is clearly a much better player then Flash but that series was still a slaughter as far as level as play goes. He played so well all tournament and then bad in the final. That is generally thought of as a sign of caving under pressure. Btw I have no clue about his BW accomplishments. All I know is he won some stuff and has a lot of annoying/delusional fans.
At least 50% what? He's obviously over 50% in Proleague games. He's lost 3 ace matches, only one of which was in the last two months. In the U&D's, one of the times he didn't make it through, he won his final two games, so that is a moot point. Do you actually think that someone who's played in 8 OSL/MSL finals, WCG korea finals, WCG global finals, 2 GomTV Classic finals, 3 Proleague finals and 2 winner's league finals (and won 11 of those) is someone who just buckles under the pressure?
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On April 18 2013 13:47 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 11:35 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 16 2013 14:45 GolemMadness wrote:On April 16 2013 11:11 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 16 2013 10:37 lichter wrote:On April 16 2013 03:26 blade55555 wrote:On April 16 2013 02:48 tuho12345 wrote:On April 16 2013 02:46 EpiK wrote:On April 16 2013 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote:On April 15 2013 22:53 Slardar wrote: Oh my God we couldn't close it out after 3-0? Dammit all....they should've put HerO as the Ace though. As much as I love JD, he's quite unreliable in ZvP he's a prime snipe candidate. Yeah, Jaedong was a very questionable ace match choice due to this ZvP. coach park might've been expecting flash even if it was Flash, there is no way JD can beat Flash in a macro game. He got lucky once cuz Flash didn't pay attention to 5 hellions and 2 WM but man such a stupid choice to use JD for an expecting ZvZ. LOL. I love people who are so delusional about flash. Yes jaedong can beat flash in a macro game I can guarantee it. People seem to have this odd illusion that jaedongs bad zvp = he's bad at everything else. So hilarious how delusional people like you are about Flash or jaedong in general. I will say really sad to see egtl go from 3-0 to lose 4-3 and I really wish jaedong would improve that zvp T_T. He's 1-5 in Ace matches I keep hearing he is clutch but I am just not seeing it. He is constantly letting his team down. He missed Code S by a game twice and choked against Life in the finals of MLG. Being clutch doesn't mean that you win every single important game. Look at his list of accomplishments. You don't get that by being someone who can't handle high pressure situations and important games. The first time he lost in U&D's he was still very new to the game (he was one of very few to make it through the qualifiers on his first try, and he only didn't make it through because of the tiebreaker system). The second time, he won his final two games in the group, but again only didn't make it because of the tiebreaker system. As for him choking against Life... Seriously? He'd played the expansion for two days and lost to the best player on the planet in a 4-2 series. If you consider that to be choking, then I guess that every time someone loses a game they choked instead of simply being outplayed. It doesn't mean you should win every single game but I would expect at least 50%. He is no where near that. My point about the up and downs is that he lost by so little meaning that he couldn't lift himself to that extra level when it really mattered. As for his series against Life he played awful. He didn't scout, split against banelings or adapt to Life's play. It was just pathetic and the only reason he won two games were because of Life's failed 10 pool and a cheese. Life is clearly a much better player then Flash but that series was still a slaughter as far as level as play goes. He played so well all tournament and then bad in the final. That is generally thought of as a sign of caving under pressure. Btw I have no clue about his BW accomplishments. All I know is he won some stuff and has a lot of annoying/delusional fans. At least 50% what? He's obviously over 50% in Proleague games. He's lost 3 ace matches, only one of which was in the last two months. In the U&D's, one of the times he didn't make it through, he won his final two games, so that is a moot point. Do you actually think that someone who's played in 8 OSL/MSL finals, WCG korea finals, WCG global finals, 2 GomTV Classic finals, 3 Proleague finals and 2 winner's league finals (and won 11 of those) is someone who just buckles under the pressure? That proves nothing, because obviously there was no pressure at all in the BW days.
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On April 17 2013 11:35 Emzeeshady wrote: Btw I have no clue about his BW accomplishments. All I know is he won some stuff and has a lot of annoying/delusional fans.
Don't be proud of that fact, learn. There's a rich history of Starcraft that is worth knowing, even if you weren't paying attention at the time.
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On April 17 2013 11:35 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 14:45 GolemMadness wrote:On April 16 2013 11:11 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 16 2013 10:37 lichter wrote:On April 16 2013 03:26 blade55555 wrote:On April 16 2013 02:48 tuho12345 wrote:On April 16 2013 02:46 EpiK wrote:On April 16 2013 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote:On April 15 2013 22:53 Slardar wrote: Oh my God we couldn't close it out after 3-0? Dammit all....they should've put HerO as the Ace though. As much as I love JD, he's quite unreliable in ZvP he's a prime snipe candidate. Yeah, Jaedong was a very questionable ace match choice due to this ZvP. coach park might've been expecting flash even if it was Flash, there is no way JD can beat Flash in a macro game. He got lucky once cuz Flash didn't pay attention to 5 hellions and 2 WM but man such a stupid choice to use JD for an expecting ZvZ. LOL. I love people who are so delusional about flash. Yes jaedong can beat flash in a macro game I can guarantee it. People seem to have this odd illusion that jaedongs bad zvp = he's bad at everything else. So hilarious how delusional people like you are about Flash or jaedong in general. I will say really sad to see egtl go from 3-0 to lose 4-3 and I really wish jaedong would improve that zvp T_T. He's 1-5 in Ace matches I keep hearing he is clutch but I am just not seeing it. He is constantly letting his team down. He missed Code S by a game twice and choked against Life in the finals of MLG. Being clutch doesn't mean that you win every single important game. Look at his list of accomplishments. You don't get that by being someone who can't handle high pressure situations and important games. The first time he lost in U&D's he was still very new to the game (he was one of very few to make it through the qualifiers on his first try, and he only didn't make it through because of the tiebreaker system). The second time, he won his final two games in the group, but again only didn't make it because of the tiebreaker system. As for him choking against Life... Seriously? He'd played the expansion for two days and lost to the best player on the planet in a 4-2 series. If you consider that to be choking, then I guess that every time someone loses a game they choked instead of simply being outplayed. It doesn't mean you should win every single game but I would expect at least 50%. He is no where near that. My point about the up and downs is that he lost by so little meaning that he couldn't lift himself to that extra level when it really mattered. As for his series against Life he played awful. He didn't scout, split against banelings or adapt to Life's play. It was just pathetic and the only reason he won two games were because of Life's failed 10 pool and a cheese. Life is clearly a much better player then Flash but that series was still a slaughter as far as level as play goes. He played so well all tournament and then bad in the final. That is generally thought of as a sign of caving under pressure. Btw I have no clue about his BW accomplishments. All I know is he won some stuff and has a lot of annoying/delusional fans.
You did a good job making yourself look retarded. Maybe you should put some time and thought into your posts before clicking on "post". It could also be that your level of understanding of the game just is lacking, but your post sure shows that you know nothing on the field you just entered.
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jd beat flash. thats what matters here people
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On April 18 2013 15:16 reincremate wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 13:47 GolemMadness wrote:On April 17 2013 11:35 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 16 2013 14:45 GolemMadness wrote:On April 16 2013 11:11 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 16 2013 10:37 lichter wrote:On April 16 2013 03:26 blade55555 wrote:On April 16 2013 02:48 tuho12345 wrote:On April 16 2013 02:46 EpiK wrote:On April 16 2013 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote: [quote]
Yeah, Jaedong was a very questionable ace match choice due to this ZvP.
coach park might've been expecting flash even if it was Flash, there is no way JD can beat Flash in a macro game. He got lucky once cuz Flash didn't pay attention to 5 hellions and 2 WM but man such a stupid choice to use JD for an expecting ZvZ. LOL. I love people who are so delusional about flash. Yes jaedong can beat flash in a macro game I can guarantee it. People seem to have this odd illusion that jaedongs bad zvp = he's bad at everything else. So hilarious how delusional people like you are about Flash or jaedong in general. I will say really sad to see egtl go from 3-0 to lose 4-3 and I really wish jaedong would improve that zvp T_T. He's 1-5 in Ace matches I keep hearing he is clutch but I am just not seeing it. He is constantly letting his team down. He missed Code S by a game twice and choked against Life in the finals of MLG. Being clutch doesn't mean that you win every single important game. Look at his list of accomplishments. You don't get that by being someone who can't handle high pressure situations and important games. The first time he lost in U&D's he was still very new to the game (he was one of very few to make it through the qualifiers on his first try, and he only didn't make it through because of the tiebreaker system). The second time, he won his final two games in the group, but again only didn't make it because of the tiebreaker system. As for him choking against Life... Seriously? He'd played the expansion for two days and lost to the best player on the planet in a 4-2 series. If you consider that to be choking, then I guess that every time someone loses a game they choked instead of simply being outplayed. It doesn't mean you should win every single game but I would expect at least 50%. He is no where near that. My point about the up and downs is that he lost by so little meaning that he couldn't lift himself to that extra level when it really mattered. As for his series against Life he played awful. He didn't scout, split against banelings or adapt to Life's play. It was just pathetic and the only reason he won two games were because of Life's failed 10 pool and a cheese. Life is clearly a much better player then Flash but that series was still a slaughter as far as level as play goes. He played so well all tournament and then bad in the final. That is generally thought of as a sign of caving under pressure. Btw I have no clue about his BW accomplishments. All I know is he won some stuff and has a lot of annoying/delusional fans. At least 50% what? He's obviously over 50% in Proleague games. He's lost 3 ace matches, only one of which was in the last two months. In the U&D's, one of the times he didn't make it through, he won his final two games, so that is a moot point. Do you actually think that someone who's played in 8 OSL/MSL finals, WCG korea finals, WCG global finals, 2 GomTV Classic finals, 3 Proleague finals and 2 winner's league finals (and won 11 of those) is someone who just buckles under the pressure? That proves nothing, because obviously there was no pressure at all in the BW days. I hope you are trolling sir...
as for Emzeeshady... maybe you should look into the BW days (props to at least admitting that it existed and you do not know much about it) and see why Jaedong (and Bisu and Flash and all the other "overhyped" pros from Kespa) do have "a lot of annoying/delusional fans." Maybe if you found out what made them so impressive before they switched over to a completely new game, you would be able to reason with the delusional fans and make sense of where they are coming from? Who knows, maybe you'll be able to appreciate the SC2 scene as it is right now if you found out the roots of how e-sports became such a big deal in the first place~
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I'm a pretty big Flash fanboy, but yes, Jaedong can beat Flash, and will continue to take many games off of him in the future. It's how it has been and how it always will be. If Jaedong didn't do this, Flash wouldn't be quite as interesting to watch. I also remember the one other game of JvF SC2 I saw.... Jaedong baneling busted flash, but with 30 banes and like 80 lings. Haahahahhaha
In all seriousness, though. If you haven't seen any of Flash's BW games, do some reading or watching. I remember one of his performances in a Proleague finals(?) where he read some of the most well-hidden all-ins with seemingly zero information..
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On April 17 2013 11:35 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 14:45 GolemMadness wrote:On April 16 2013 11:11 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 16 2013 10:37 lichter wrote:On April 16 2013 03:26 blade55555 wrote:On April 16 2013 02:48 tuho12345 wrote:On April 16 2013 02:46 EpiK wrote:On April 16 2013 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote:On April 15 2013 22:53 Slardar wrote: Oh my God we couldn't close it out after 3-0? Dammit all....they should've put HerO as the Ace though. As much as I love JD, he's quite unreliable in ZvP he's a prime snipe candidate. Yeah, Jaedong was a very questionable ace match choice due to this ZvP. coach park might've been expecting flash even if it was Flash, there is no way JD can beat Flash in a macro game. He got lucky once cuz Flash didn't pay attention to 5 hellions and 2 WM but man such a stupid choice to use JD for an expecting ZvZ. LOL. I love people who are so delusional about flash. Yes jaedong can beat flash in a macro game I can guarantee it. People seem to have this odd illusion that jaedongs bad zvp = he's bad at everything else. So hilarious how delusional people like you are about Flash or jaedong in general. I will say really sad to see egtl go from 3-0 to lose 4-3 and I really wish jaedong would improve that zvp T_T. He's 1-5 in Ace matches I keep hearing he is clutch but I am just not seeing it. He is constantly letting his team down. He missed Code S by a game twice and choked against Life in the finals of MLG. Being clutch doesn't mean that you win every single important game. Look at his list of accomplishments. You don't get that by being someone who can't handle high pressure situations and important games. The first time he lost in U&D's he was still very new to the game (he was one of very few to make it through the qualifiers on his first try, and he only didn't make it through because of the tiebreaker system). The second time, he won his final two games in the group, but again only didn't make it because of the tiebreaker system. As for him choking against Life... Seriously? He'd played the expansion for two days and lost to the best player on the planet in a 4-2 series. If you consider that to be choking, then I guess that every time someone loses a game they choked instead of simply being outplayed. It doesn't mean you should win every single game but I would expect at least 50%. He is no where near that. My point about the up and downs is that he lost by so little meaning that he couldn't lift himself to that extra level when it really mattered. As for his series against Life he played awful. He didn't scout, split against banelings or adapt to Life's play. It was just pathetic and the only reason he won two games were because of Life's failed 10 pool and a cheese. Life is clearly a much better player then Flash but that series was still a slaughter as far as level as play goes. He played so well all tournament and then bad in the final. That is generally thought of as a sign of caving under pressure. Btw I have no clue about his BW accomplishments. All I know is he won some stuff and has a lot of annoying/delusional fans.
We should have a wall of shame on TL.
This post would belong there.
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