before: you lose 2 times in a row? yeah, shit happens. you'll get it next time.
now: you lost 2 games? you're obviously in a slump.
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 16 2013 00:13 GMT
#1781
before: you lose 2 times in a row? yeah, shit happens. you'll get it next time. now: you lost 2 games? you're obviously in a slump. | ||
Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
April 16 2013 00:15 GMT
#1782
On April 16 2013 09:13 jinorazi wrote: the consistency people expect seems to have followed the trend of sc2. before: you lose 2 times in a row? yeah, shit happens. you'll get it next time. now: you lost 2 games? you're obviously in a slump. Yeah, people are quite pathetic these days (these many many many days now). | ||
Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
April 16 2013 00:44 GMT
#1783
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theMagus
578 Posts
April 16 2013 01:23 GMT
#1784
On April 16 2013 09:09 sharkie wrote: Show nested quote + On April 16 2013 03:44 Whatson wrote: On April 16 2013 02:48 tuho12345 wrote: On April 16 2013 02:46 EpiK wrote: On April 16 2013 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote: On April 15 2013 22:53 Slardar wrote: Oh my God we couldn't close it out after 3-0? Dammit all....they should've put HerO as the Ace though. As much as I love JD, he's quite unreliable in ZvP he's a prime snipe candidate. Yeah, Jaedong was a very questionable ace match choice due to this ZvP. coach park might've been expecting flash even if it was Flash, there is no way JD can beat Flash in a macro game. He got lucky once cuz Flash didn't pay attention to 5 hellions and 2 WM but man such a stupid choice to use JD for an expecting ZvZ. Yeah idk why you would send out JD when you know it's going to be Flash (who isn't going to make the same silly mistake again) or Stats (JD simply sucks at ZvP). So idk, maybe Coach Park had a cheese planned out for him. You seriously expect Flash not to repeat the same silly mistake again? lol That's Flash's one huge weakness, his stubbornness. i don't really see this as a weakness. he just likes to stick with what he thinks he can be successful with until he has exhausted all possibilities and it still fails. if i were as brilliant as him, i wouldn't listen to a lot of people's comments about my game either. that's flash for you, love it or hate it | ||
Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
April 16 2013 01:26 GMT
#1785
On April 16 2013 10:23 theMagus wrote: Show nested quote + On April 16 2013 09:09 sharkie wrote: On April 16 2013 03:44 Whatson wrote: On April 16 2013 02:48 tuho12345 wrote: On April 16 2013 02:46 EpiK wrote: On April 16 2013 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote: On April 15 2013 22:53 Slardar wrote: Oh my God we couldn't close it out after 3-0? Dammit all....they should've put HerO as the Ace though. As much as I love JD, he's quite unreliable in ZvP he's a prime snipe candidate. Yeah, Jaedong was a very questionable ace match choice due to this ZvP. coach park might've been expecting flash even if it was Flash, there is no way JD can beat Flash in a macro game. He got lucky once cuz Flash didn't pay attention to 5 hellions and 2 WM but man such a stupid choice to use JD for an expecting ZvZ. Yeah idk why you would send out JD when you know it's going to be Flash (who isn't going to make the same silly mistake again) or Stats (JD simply sucks at ZvP). So idk, maybe Coach Park had a cheese planned out for him. You seriously expect Flash not to repeat the same silly mistake again? lol That's Flash's one huge weakness, his stubbornness. i don't really see this as a weakness. he just likes to stick with what he thinks he can be successful with until he has exhausted all possibilities and it still fails. if i were as brilliant as him, i wouldn't listen to a lot of people's comments about my game either. that's flash for you, love it or hate it Sigh this is feeling like 2009 all over again. FLASH STOP 14CCING WITHOUT TURRETS AND DYING TO 2HATCH MUTA | ||
theMagus
578 Posts
April 16 2013 01:33 GMT
#1786
On April 16 2013 10:26 Shady Sands wrote: Show nested quote + On April 16 2013 10:23 theMagus wrote: On April 16 2013 09:09 sharkie wrote: On April 16 2013 03:44 Whatson wrote: On April 16 2013 02:48 tuho12345 wrote: On April 16 2013 02:46 EpiK wrote: On April 16 2013 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote: On April 15 2013 22:53 Slardar wrote: Oh my God we couldn't close it out after 3-0? Dammit all....they should've put HerO as the Ace though. As much as I love JD, he's quite unreliable in ZvP he's a prime snipe candidate. Yeah, Jaedong was a very questionable ace match choice due to this ZvP. coach park might've been expecting flash even if it was Flash, there is no way JD can beat Flash in a macro game. He got lucky once cuz Flash didn't pay attention to 5 hellions and 2 WM but man such a stupid choice to use JD for an expecting ZvZ. Yeah idk why you would send out JD when you know it's going to be Flash (who isn't going to make the same silly mistake again) or Stats (JD simply sucks at ZvP). So idk, maybe Coach Park had a cheese planned out for him. You seriously expect Flash not to repeat the same silly mistake again? lol That's Flash's one huge weakness, his stubbornness. i don't really see this as a weakness. he just likes to stick with what he thinks he can be successful with until he has exhausted all possibilities and it still fails. if i were as brilliant as him, i wouldn't listen to a lot of people's comments about my game either. that's flash for you, love it or hate it Sigh this is feeling like 2009 all over again. FLASH STOP 14CCING WITHOUT TURRETS AND DYING TO 2HATCH MUTA a necessary step to greatness, my friend. it will pass | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
April 16 2013 01:37 GMT
#1787
On April 16 2013 03:26 blade55555 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 16 2013 02:48 tuho12345 wrote: On April 16 2013 02:46 EpiK wrote: On April 16 2013 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote: On April 15 2013 22:53 Slardar wrote: Oh my God we couldn't close it out after 3-0? Dammit all....they should've put HerO as the Ace though. As much as I love JD, he's quite unreliable in ZvP he's a prime snipe candidate. Yeah, Jaedong was a very questionable ace match choice due to this ZvP. coach park might've been expecting flash even if it was Flash, there is no way JD can beat Flash in a macro game. He got lucky once cuz Flash didn't pay attention to 5 hellions and 2 WM but man such a stupid choice to use JD for an expecting ZvZ. LOL. I love people who are so delusional about flash. Yes jaedong can beat flash in a macro game I can guarantee it. People seem to have this odd illusion that jaedongs bad zvp = he's bad at everything else. So hilarious how delusional people like you are about Flash or jaedong in general. I will say really sad to see egtl go from 3-0 to lose 4-3 and I really wish jaedong would improve that zvp T_T. People are pretty delusional about Flash in general. He's one of the better Terrans, but he's yet to separate himself. His Proleague record is still good, but not great. He's 1-5 in Ace matches, on a 3 Ace Match losing streak, and a 5 game losing streak overall. His only great individual league performance has been MLG. Flash is amazing, and he'll probably become the best Terran in time, but right now, he's far from it. | ||
Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
April 16 2013 02:11 GMT
#1788
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49051 Posts
April 16 2013 02:17 GMT
#1789
On April 16 2013 06:45 GolemMadness wrote: Show nested quote + On April 16 2013 06:40 Emzeeshady wrote: On April 16 2013 06:36 GolemMadness wrote: On April 16 2013 04:06 smogg wrote: EZTL manages to make my otherwise awesome life completely miserable. Good job. And Coach Park's bad picks for the maps vs Team 8 and now his failure to realise the obvious - that Flash wouldn't be the ace player, have disappointed me greatly. Yeah, what an idiot to not realise that KT wouldn't send out their best player for the ace match. They should fire him and put you in as the coach instead after that obvious blunder. Well to be fair Flash has not be doing well recently including losing in ace matches. He lost one ace match. In Brood War he once lost something like 3 straight, and KT continued to send him out for the ace. Saying that it's obvious that they wouldn't send out their best player who's played every single ace match this year because he's lost a few games recently is just ridiculous. lol it was 9 straight not 3. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
April 16 2013 02:34 GMT
#1790
On April 16 2013 11:11 Emzeeshady wrote: Show nested quote + On April 16 2013 10:37 lichter wrote: On April 16 2013 03:26 blade55555 wrote: On April 16 2013 02:48 tuho12345 wrote: On April 16 2013 02:46 EpiK wrote: On April 16 2013 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote: On April 15 2013 22:53 Slardar wrote: Oh my God we couldn't close it out after 3-0? Dammit all....they should've put HerO as the Ace though. As much as I love JD, he's quite unreliable in ZvP he's a prime snipe candidate. Yeah, Jaedong was a very questionable ace match choice due to this ZvP. coach park might've been expecting flash even if it was Flash, there is no way JD can beat Flash in a macro game. He got lucky once cuz Flash didn't pay attention to 5 hellions and 2 WM but man such a stupid choice to use JD for an expecting ZvZ. LOL. I love people who are so delusional about flash. Yes jaedong can beat flash in a macro game I can guarantee it. People seem to have this odd illusion that jaedongs bad zvp = he's bad at everything else. So hilarious how delusional people like you are about Flash or jaedong in general. I will say really sad to see egtl go from 3-0 to lose 4-3 and I really wish jaedong would improve that zvp T_T. He's 1-5 in Ace matches I keep hearing he is clutch but I am just not seeing it. He is constantly letting his team down. He missed Code S by a game twice and choked against Life in the finals of MLG. I got it wrong actually. The Proleague page is wrong lol I had to count everything manually. He's 2-5, and on a 4 Ace match losing streak. Also just a 4 game losing streak over all. | ||
Whatson
United States5354 Posts
April 16 2013 02:40 GMT
#1791
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ThisWillBEz
United States120 Posts
April 16 2013 02:43 GMT
#1792
On April 16 2013 11:40 Whatson wrote: LOL I just watched the ace match. Damn JD has subpar ZvP. Why in the world would you send him out as ace? Hahaha they probably expected flash | ||
Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
April 16 2013 03:03 GMT
#1793
On April 16 2013 06:44 Markwerf wrote: just watched the ace match, Jaedong actually played quite well. If only he had gotten the HotS memo that to play against laser toss you go vipers (with maybe some infestor) instead of corruptors he would have won handily. His early game and the denial of the third base was pretty damn good (stats played weak though) but a slight overaggression afterwards with the bad strategy lost EGTL the match.. such a shame. Voidrays just stomp corruptors too hard now, adding them just gives protoss a too juicy target. Without them voidrays actually tend to autotarget hydra's against which they have pretty poor damage. Vipers counter colossi much more effective, a pulled colossus is as good as dead. The crucial thing here is that you mostly avoid the voidrays and you trample the forcefields at the same time. Blinding cloud is situationally awesome too if the battle is in a close space, even sweeter if you pull off the blinding cloud + fungal combo. Speaking of which, infestors may not be great anymore but 1 or 2 are still great against lasertoss, it still stacks quite a bit and a fungal can easily hit 10+ units. Spire in ZvP is good for surprise muta's or against carrier/tempest. Otherwise just DON'T use it. Spire 200m 200g 100s for mutalisks and corruptors infestation pit + hive 300m 250g 150s for swarm hosts, infestors, vipers and additional tech options (+3, ultra, adrenal glands). The latter is just far better now considering how great ultra's are now. good post One thing though, you should add time for spire + corruptor buildtime and Going infestation pit+hive+viper Would be fun to see | ||
WhiteSatin
United States308 Posts
April 16 2013 03:08 GMT
#1794
just watched the VODS... so many chances thrown away.. JD the last game was so painful.. why did he stay on hydra roach so long? :'( sigh | ||
OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
April 16 2013 03:10 GMT
#1795
On April 16 2013 11:43 ThisWillBEz wrote: Show nested quote + On April 16 2013 11:40 Whatson wrote: LOL I just watched the ace match. Damn JD has subpar ZvP. Why in the world would you send him out as ace? Hahaha they probably expected flash EGTL vs KT lineup 15/4 HerO <Naro Station> MyuNgSiK Jaedong <Korhal Floating Island> Flash JYP <Whirlwind> hitmaN Oz <Neo Planet S> Zest Zenio <Newkirk Redevelopment Precint> Crazy aLive <Akilon Wastes> Stats Jaedong < Fighting Spirit > Stats EGTL vs Team 8 lineup 14/4 HerO < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > TRUE Jaedong < Fighting Spirit > Argo aLive < Akilon Wastes > TY JYP < Whirlwind LE > ALBM (check) Oz < Naro Station > Terminator Zenio < Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct > Cure < Korhal Floating Island > HerO sent out on Bel'Shir Vestige and Naro Station Oz sent out on Naro Stations and Neo Planet S EGTL probably intends to send a P on Naro Station regardless. Zenio sent out on Newkirk Redevelopment Precint JYP sent out on Whirlwind LE aLive sent out on Akilon Wastes Likely that they only practiced this map for both matches. Jaedong sent out on Fighting Spirit and Korhal Floating Island Incidentally both maps were in the pool and also the ace map for both days, it is likely that EGTL already planned to send JD if both ace matches and get him to practice these 2 maps. is it fair to say that they predict flash or perhaps jd was the plan all along? | ||
Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
April 16 2013 03:33 GMT
#1796
Very rare to see a D+ for a player in proleague, and I thought Jaedong played worse in ACE match than Alive's showing. D+ terran, maybe I can beat him with my D+ protoss. JYP, Crazy and Stats's ACE match got A+. | ||
NeilChatelain
Peru5 Posts
April 16 2013 04:07 GMT
#1797
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
April 16 2013 05:37 GMT
#1798
On April 16 2013 09:09 sharkie wrote: Show nested quote + On April 16 2013 03:44 Whatson wrote: On April 16 2013 02:48 tuho12345 wrote: On April 16 2013 02:46 EpiK wrote: On April 16 2013 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote: On April 15 2013 22:53 Slardar wrote: Oh my God we couldn't close it out after 3-0? Dammit all....they should've put HerO as the Ace though. As much as I love JD, he's quite unreliable in ZvP he's a prime snipe candidate. Yeah, Jaedong was a very questionable ace match choice due to this ZvP. coach park might've been expecting flash even if it was Flash, there is no way JD can beat Flash in a macro game. He got lucky once cuz Flash didn't pay attention to 5 hellions and 2 WM but man such a stupid choice to use JD for an expecting ZvZ. Yeah idk why you would send out JD when you know it's going to be Flash (who isn't going to make the same silly mistake again) or Stats (JD simply sucks at ZvP). So idk, maybe Coach Park had a cheese planned out for him. You seriously expect Flash not to repeat the same silly mistake again? lol That's Flash's one huge weakness, his stubbornness. Yeah, I'm sure that he's going to stubbornly insist on getting his army caught and all of it dying. | ||
GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
April 16 2013 05:45 GMT
#1799
On April 16 2013 11:11 Emzeeshady wrote: Show nested quote + On April 16 2013 10:37 lichter wrote: On April 16 2013 03:26 blade55555 wrote: On April 16 2013 02:48 tuho12345 wrote: On April 16 2013 02:46 EpiK wrote: On April 16 2013 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote: On April 15 2013 22:53 Slardar wrote: Oh my God we couldn't close it out after 3-0? Dammit all....they should've put HerO as the Ace though. As much as I love JD, he's quite unreliable in ZvP he's a prime snipe candidate. Yeah, Jaedong was a very questionable ace match choice due to this ZvP. coach park might've been expecting flash even if it was Flash, there is no way JD can beat Flash in a macro game. He got lucky once cuz Flash didn't pay attention to 5 hellions and 2 WM but man such a stupid choice to use JD for an expecting ZvZ. LOL. I love people who are so delusional about flash. Yes jaedong can beat flash in a macro game I can guarantee it. People seem to have this odd illusion that jaedongs bad zvp = he's bad at everything else. So hilarious how delusional people like you are about Flash or jaedong in general. I will say really sad to see egtl go from 3-0 to lose 4-3 and I really wish jaedong would improve that zvp T_T. He's 1-5 in Ace matches I keep hearing he is clutch but I am just not seeing it. He is constantly letting his team down. He missed Code S by a game twice and choked against Life in the finals of MLG. Being clutch doesn't mean that you win every single important game. Look at his list of accomplishments. You don't get that by being someone who can't handle high pressure situations and important games. The first time he lost in U&D's he was still very new to the game (he was one of very few to make it through the qualifiers on his first try, and he only didn't make it through because of the tiebreaker system). The second time, he won his final two games in the group, but again only didn't make it because of the tiebreaker system. As for him choking against Life... Seriously? He'd played the expansion for two days and lost to the best player on the planet in a 4-2 series. If you consider that to be choking, then I guess that every time someone loses a game they choked instead of simply being outplayed. | ||
sM.Zik
Canada2542 Posts
April 16 2013 05:52 GMT
#1800
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