EPTif you live the night
double lynch yam/vivax
and game is over, hopefully
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
if you live the night double lynch yam/vivax and game is over, hopefully | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Why the fuck did we lynch the fucking detective over Vivax UUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
thats why the game isnt enjoyable. hes scum btw look how he comes in to just shit on everyone.. but wasnt here when we ened opinion. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On April 15 2013 12:39 yamato77 wrote: I am not the last mafia Why the fuck did we lynch the fucking detective over Vivax UUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH Its not a big deal. Vivax dies. TMR. or we lynch sinani cause he didnt doublelynch or voterig or whatever. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On April 15 2013 12:41 Mocsta wrote: Geript.. ^^ thats why the game isnt enjoyable. hes scum btw look how he comes in to just shit on everyone.. but wasnt here when we ened opinion. I was here earlier, when I had time to play I told you idiots to lynch Vivax Now I'm back, and the guy with a GREEN CHECK ON ME has been lynched over Vivax, who gives zero fucks I just want this game to be over. | ||
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Vivax
21691 Posts
Trading a DT for another DT, if you pulled through your plan you'd be in the shoes of the guys you call idiots at this point. Keep up the good work though. The DTs won't lynch themselves. Is it Keirathi or me next? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On April 15 2013 12:50 Vivax wrote: You're really bad yamato. Trading a DT for another DT, if you pulled through your plan you'd be in the shoes of the guys you call idiots at this point. Keep up the good work though. The DTs won't lynch themselves. Is it Keirathi or me next? who do you want to lynch? | ||
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Vivax
21691 Posts
I'm currently reviewing yamato: On April 07 2013 02:15 yamato77 wrote: Palmar's comment on VE, even if VE is scum, is also no reason to think him town. It's a passing comment made that follows thread sentiment. In no way is Palmar taking that read of VE seriously. This looks like something premature to say when you don't have knowledge of VE's alignment. It looks like yamato tried to take credit away from Palmar even before VE got lynched. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On April 15 2013 12:57 Vivax wrote: Think of it from this point of view: The last scum doesn't concede cause he thinks he's not getting lynched anytime soon and wants to have some fun watching town burn a little. I'm currently reviewing yamato: This looks like something premature to say when you don't have knowledge of VE's alignment. It looks like yamato tried to take credit away from Palmar even before VE got lynched. Yamato CANNOT be normal scum. It's impossible. S&B had a green+VT check on him. VT's can't get extra bonuses. Yamato could be a traitor, but to have known that VE was scum at that point, he would have had to have already been recruited. Which I don't find very likely, looking at his filter. | ||
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Vivax
21691 Posts
Yamato initially wanted to lynch these guys: + Show Spoiler + On April 07 2013 15:13 yamato77 wrote: Going to bed. When I wake up tomorrow, I'm taking a look at this list of people: VE PALMAR SINANI MEAPAK AUSTIN One of them will get lynched. OO deciding to bus artanis at this time: + Show Spoiler + On April 08 2013 08:23 ObviousOne wrote: British Empire Mini Mafia II [Town]: Comfortable with 180 when confronted with new information Openly questions his detractors Sarcasm/teeth to his posts Early game attention grabber with BS vote on Marv (wasn't even in the game) - not afraid of the spotlight Direct/engaged mid-lategame One of his post-game posts I believe he mentioned before in this game, that he was trying to change up his playstyle a bit: + Show Spoiler + On March 09 2013 09:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Well, just reading the thread and getting reads off that is easy, actually doing analysis on players and posting it and trying to convince others, using meta, etc. is something else and it's not something you bothered with. When I did do so and people barely/didn't respond to it and still happily voted for me, it doesn't particularly make the game very fun. Fruity Mafia [Town]: First major thing that stands out to me is how he formulated this post. He talked about 4 other players then said ObviousOne looked bad (I really did, bee tee dubs): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17802815 He guilted me out of my scum read on Toad (Zessionar in that game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17811235 Full of questions / interactions / poking Was a town power role and got very bold D2 but town confidence overall was high. Otherwise rather similar to British TL Mafia LI [Mafia]: Talks about things mafia would/wouldn't do (his example was scum don't make big slips) Points out a big scum slip (lol see above) Posts in a reassuring tone (regarding his own reads) Attacked inactivity and claims Post-game confessions: Characteristics I picked out from Haunted [2010]: - Makes summaries {conglomerations of players posts} with blanket statements regarding alignment - I used to do this all the time especially in my earliest games - Feigned/Real inactivity/unavailability - not necessarily a scum tell but a useful scum tool - Offers to be "helpful" for a period of time - not taking the initiative and doing something useful himself - Defensive stance - possibly a product of being under suspicion when being replaced in, but in this game was used to misdirect suspicion on lurkers to non-mafia faction THIS GAME: Dismissive in D0, not chasing shadows or anything really Some concept of a plan presented, not really pushed Not very inquisitive Giant poop in the thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18226316 No real back-and-forth happening Barely here The OBVIOUS conclusion: Scum Spend way more time defending / deflecting than scum hunting, less interactive than his town games. By extension of this, he's missing that edge of sarcasm and incredulity in his voice that is present when he calls people out on their bullshit as town. He doesn't seem interested in getting people to re-factor their reads. Way too defensive to match his town meta in any way. Added note: his filter is barely 2 pages and we've already been active for four real-time days if I am not fucking up my maths. Both scum game filters were short (less than 3 pages each) and showed him hiding by posting just enough to not be considered a lurker. Suddenly Artanis is among yamato's scumreads: + Show Spoiler + On April 08 2013 09:42 yamato77 wrote: Let's lynch Artanis. The fact that the lynch has met resistance and people are arguing about other cases that are "scummier" is a good thing. I love information. OO's analysis of his meta is decent, and coupled with gonzaw's case, I could see Artanus as scum. As for who to vig, it should obviously be sinani. If you read his filter, he posts opportunistically, and generally has little to say. One post in particular I called out as being especially horrible, the one where he gives his "thoughts" on the lynch candidates and is null on three out of four. I was scum with him in Red Team's Prize, and he's acting similar to that game, here his posting in the thread is quiet and not forceful. His "push" of BM as a vig shot is also terrible, because I actually have him down as likely town. As for myself, since people seem to think I need to contribute more, meh. I gave the game the start I wanted and I have some decent town reads out of that, so as far as continuing a high level of activity, I don't feel that it's necessary. I'm doing my own scum hunting, and I make myself known throughout the day on where I'm at. If I drop off the face of the planet, feel free to shoot/lynch me, but I'm not going to be hyperactive in these games anymore. Shortly after OO bussed, yamato adds Artanis to those he would lynch, without fighting for his own choices. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
point of reclusive traitor is you arent in scum qt. unless they identify you. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On April 15 2013 13:03 Mocsta wrote: lol vivax. point of reclusive traitor is you arent in scum qt. unless they identify you. He's making a case that yam is mafia, not traitor. Boggle :o | ||
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Vivax
21691 Posts
On April 15 2013 13:00 Keirathi wrote: Yamato CANNOT be normal scum. It's impossible. S&B had a green+VT check on him. VT's can't get extra bonuses. Yamato could be a traitor, but to have known that VE was scum at that point, he would have had to have already been recruited. Which I don't find very likely, looking at his filter. That would fit the profile of a guy who doesn't expect to get lynched soon: Someone with a green check. Yamato was the last one to pick. Why not pick godfather? Conservative choice, and guaranteed to not have been taken away by a townie. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On April 15 2013 13:02 Vivax wrote: This is weak,Other incriminating stuff: Yamato initially wanted to lynch these guys: + Show Spoiler + On April 07 2013 15:13 yamato77 wrote: Going to bed. When I wake up tomorrow, I'm taking a look at this list of people: VE PALMAR SINANI MEAPAK AUSTIN One of them will get lynched. OO deciding to bus artanis at this time: + Show Spoiler + On April 08 2013 08:23 ObviousOne wrote: British Empire Mini Mafia II [Town]: Comfortable with 180 when confronted with new information Openly questions his detractors Sarcasm/teeth to his posts Early game attention grabber with BS vote on Marv (wasn't even in the game) - not afraid of the spotlight Direct/engaged mid-lategame One of his post-game posts I believe he mentioned before in this game, that he was trying to change up his playstyle a bit: + Show Spoiler + On March 09 2013 09:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Well, just reading the thread and getting reads off that is easy, actually doing analysis on players and posting it and trying to convince others, using meta, etc. is something else and it's not something you bothered with. When I did do so and people barely/didn't respond to it and still happily voted for me, it doesn't particularly make the game very fun. Fruity Mafia [Town]: First major thing that stands out to me is how he formulated this post. He talked about 4 other players then said ObviousOne looked bad (I really did, bee tee dubs): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17802815 He guilted me out of my scum read on Toad (Zessionar in that game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17811235 Full of questions / interactions / poking Was a town power role and got very bold D2 but town confidence overall was high. Otherwise rather similar to British TL Mafia LI [Mafia]: Talks about things mafia would/wouldn't do (his example was scum don't make big slips) Points out a big scum slip (lol see above) Posts in a reassuring tone (regarding his own reads) Attacked inactivity and claims Post-game confessions: Characteristics I picked out from Haunted [2010]: - Makes summaries {conglomerations of players posts} with blanket statements regarding alignment - I used to do this all the time especially in my earliest games - Feigned/Real inactivity/unavailability - not necessarily a scum tell but a useful scum tool - Offers to be "helpful" for a period of time - not taking the initiative and doing something useful himself - Defensive stance - possibly a product of being under suspicion when being replaced in, but in this game was used to misdirect suspicion on lurkers to non-mafia faction THIS GAME: Dismissive in D0, not chasing shadows or anything really Some concept of a plan presented, not really pushed Not very inquisitive Giant poop in the thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18226316 No real back-and-forth happening Barely here The OBVIOUS conclusion: Scum Spend way more time defending / deflecting than scum hunting, less interactive than his town games. By extension of this, he's missing that edge of sarcasm and incredulity in his voice that is present when he calls people out on their bullshit as town. He doesn't seem interested in getting people to re-factor their reads. Way too defensive to match his town meta in any way. Added note: his filter is barely 2 pages and we've already been active for four real-time days if I am not fucking up my maths. Both scum game filters were short (less than 3 pages each) and showed him hiding by posting just enough to not be considered a lurker. Suddenly Artanis is among yamato's scumreads: + Show Spoiler + On April 08 2013 09:42 yamato77 wrote: Let's lynch Artanis. The fact that the lynch has met resistance and people are arguing about other cases that are "scummier" is a good thing. I love information. OO's analysis of his meta is decent, and coupled with gonzaw's case, I could see Artanus as scum. As for who to vig, it should obviously be sinani. If you read his filter, he posts opportunistically, and generally has little to say. One post in particular I called out as being especially horrible, the one where he gives his "thoughts" on the lynch candidates and is null on three out of four. I was scum with him in Red Team's Prize, and he's acting similar to that game, here his posting in the thread is quiet and not forceful. His "push" of BM as a vig shot is also terrible, because I actually have him down as likely town. As for myself, since people seem to think I need to contribute more, meh. I gave the game the start I wanted and I have some decent town reads out of that, so as far as continuing a high level of activity, I don't feel that it's necessary. I'm doing my own scum hunting, and I make myself known throughout the day on where I'm at. If I drop off the face of the planet, feel free to shoot/lynch me, but I'm not going to be hyperactive in these games anymore. Shortly after OO bussed, yamato adds Artanis to those he would lynch, without fighting for his own choices. far fetched intentionally miscontrues and evident of scum trying to hold onto a microcosm of life. Vivax, just concede man. your 100% getting lynched next cycle. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On April 15 2013 13:05 Vivax wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2013 13:00 Keirathi wrote: Yamato CANNOT be normal scum. It's impossible. S&B had a green+VT check on him. VT's can't get extra bonuses. Yamato could be a traitor, but to have known that VE was scum at that point, he would have had to have already been recruited. Which I don't find very likely, looking at his filter. That would fit the profile of a guy who doesn't expect to get lynched soon: Someone with a green check. Yamato was the last one to pick. Why not pick godfather? Conservative choice, and guaranteed to not have been taken away by a townie. Looking at the OP again: Godfather - You are the Godfather of the Mafia. You lead the Mafia by example and have a number of abilities which assist your minions in bringing Liquiville to it's knees. You have the ability to cover a player, changing their role and alignment to anything you want. You can choose to appear as a role of your choice (including vanilla townie) to any and all types of detective-esque actions. You are immune to votechecks. It doesn't look like Godfather can disguise his own alignment. Unless he can target himself, I guess. Or it's just worded poorly. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
This information has been in the game since forever, and he's just now doing this when he's the last option for town to lynch WTF | ||
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Vivax
21691 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On April 15 2013 13:10 Vivax wrote: I'm like 90 % sure you didn't read through yamato before posting that garbage. Vivax, if you are indeed the last mafia in this game, as I believe you are, please concede. This game is a waste of time. | ||
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Vivax
21691 Posts
You have the ability to cover a player, changing their role and alignment to anything you want. You can choose to appear as a role of your choice (including vanilla townie) to any and all types of detective-esque actions. I read it like this: GF can manipulate other's alignments and additionally has his usual ability, but as passive | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
If tomorrow comes and you're still trying to get me lynched, I guarantee that you will lose the argument with me. | ||
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