On April 09 2013 20:05 klaxen wrote:
Keep in mind artosis doesn't have his own computer to observe, so he has to rely on the stream.
Keep in mind artosis doesn't have his own computer to observe, so he has to rely on the stream.
So do we? :D
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Breach_hu
Hungary2431 Posts
April 09 2013 11:06 GMT
#1041
On April 09 2013 20:05 klaxen wrote: Keep in mind artosis doesn't have his own computer to observe, so he has to rely on the stream. So do we? :D | ||
wangstra
922 Posts
April 09 2013 11:06 GMT
#1042
On April 09 2013 19:46 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2013 19:40 rothsbury wrote: On April 09 2013 19:37 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote: On April 09 2013 19:35 wangstra wrote: Jesus if you're shit at detecting widow mines, lead your army with a few lings. Shit? Fucking hell, people have zero respect... armchairs are so comfy, easy to think this game doesn't take skill to play. I'm a Master Zerg and wish I played 1/4th as good as him. Pro gamers get judged by pro standards. Like in all competitive play. If a pro tennis player fucks up they don't say "oh, well he's still much better than my 12 yr old daughter". Nah, I don't think this armchair mentality of throwing around needlessly hostile crap is fine just because progamers are progamers. "Jesus if you're shit at ..." The thing is he isn't shit at it. I was watching it and thought he died fairly well with detection and constant overseer usage but was obviously behind from the drone loss. I know how hard it's to micro this shit against players of my caliber, doing all this perfectly against a Yoda or similar is a whole different story. But yeah, I wonder if wangstra got much too show for or if he cannot actually judge what's shit and what's not. You are conflating two things. I was cheering for DRG but was very reasonably annoyed with his approach to handling widow mines. I simply can't see how anyone can argue otherwise. I don't think DRG is "shit", I think his control in that game vis a vis widow mines was ineffective. I'm not contesting that its a challenge right now for zerg but twice in a row, DRG suffered significant damage to his ling,bling,muta style that didn't account for widow mines. That isn't an optimal strategy. I can't conceive how pointing that out makes me hostile or an armchair commentator. I'll certainly allow that the game got to me though and the way I phrased my point. | ||
Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
April 09 2013 11:06 GMT
#1043
On April 09 2013 20:06 Tobblish wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2013 20:05 klaxen wrote: Keep in mind artosis doesn't have his own computer to observe, so he has to rely on the stream. Same thing with Doa and Monte but they haven't made any big mistake. You really hate tastosis, don't you? | ||
Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
April 09 2013 11:06 GMT
#1044
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
April 09 2013 11:06 GMT
#1045
On April 09 2013 20:05 Talack wrote: Apparently we have a thread full of professional casters Would you believe me if I said that 99% of you would have called many, many things wrong in that game and you'd have x10 the pages pointing out how stupid you are? Give them a break it's difficult to call a game as it is happening. Also they don't have a preview computer so when Artosis saw 0 scv's in the main he probably assumed they were all ran away. | ||
Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
April 09 2013 11:07 GMT
#1046
On April 09 2013 20:05 Talack wrote: Apparently we have a thread full of professional casters Would you believe me if I said that 99% of you would have called many, many things wrong in that game and you'd have x10 the pages pointing out how stupid you are? Give them a break it's difficult to call a game as it is happening. While i agree that caster bashing is silly your comparison is even more so. 99% of this thread is not getting payed to cast professionally. | ||
opterown
Australia54747 Posts
April 09 2013 11:07 GMT
#1047
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berf
Canada26 Posts
April 09 2013 11:07 GMT
#1048
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Daogin
Canada2308 Posts
April 09 2013 11:07 GMT
#1049
On April 09 2013 19:58 opterown wrote: this is why tails' build never really impressed me Opter not impressed? Need some unimpressed opter memes NOW | ||
Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
April 09 2013 11:07 GMT
#1050
On April 09 2013 20:06 Dodgin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2013 20:05 Talack wrote: Apparently we have a thread full of professional casters Would you believe me if I said that 99% of you would have called many, many things wrong in that game and you'd have x10 the pages pointing out how stupid you are? Give them a break it's difficult to call a game as it is happening. Also they don't have a preview computer so when Artosis saw 0 scv's in the main he probably assumed they were all ran away. Yeah that's what I thought as well when I saw absolutely 0 SCVs. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
April 09 2013 11:07 GMT
#1051
Seriously, I veto'ed this map not because I feel uncomfortable with it, but because i'm bored to death.... | ||
AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
April 09 2013 11:07 GMT
#1052
On April 09 2013 20:06 wangstra wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2013 19:46 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote: On April 09 2013 19:40 rothsbury wrote: On April 09 2013 19:37 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote: On April 09 2013 19:35 wangstra wrote: Jesus if you're shit at detecting widow mines, lead your army with a few lings. Shit? Fucking hell, people have zero respect... armchairs are so comfy, easy to think this game doesn't take skill to play. I'm a Master Zerg and wish I played 1/4th as good as him. Pro gamers get judged by pro standards. Like in all competitive play. If a pro tennis player fucks up they don't say "oh, well he's still much better than my 12 yr old daughter". Nah, I don't think this armchair mentality of throwing around needlessly hostile crap is fine just because progamers are progamers. "Jesus if you're shit at ..." The thing is he isn't shit at it. I was watching it and thought he died fairly well with detection and constant overseer usage but was obviously behind from the drone loss. I know how hard it's to micro this shit against players of my caliber, doing all this perfectly against a Yoda or similar is a whole different story. But yeah, I wonder if wangstra got much too show for or if he cannot actually judge what's shit and what's not. I don't think DRG is "shit", I think his control in that game vis a vis widow mines was ineffective. I Never been impressed by his unit control tbh. | ||
Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
April 09 2013 11:08 GMT
#1053
On April 09 2013 20:06 Lorning wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2013 20:06 Tobblish wrote: On April 09 2013 20:05 klaxen wrote: Keep in mind artosis doesn't have his own computer to observe, so he has to rely on the stream. Same thing with Doa and Monte but they haven't made any big mistake. You really hate tastosis, don't you? Hate is a strong word, no I don't. Please stop with these silly quotes of me as soon as I say something that makes "that guy" look bad. | ||
GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
April 09 2013 11:08 GMT
#1054
On April 09 2013 20:06 Tobblish wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2013 20:05 klaxen wrote: Keep in mind artosis doesn't have his own computer to observe, so he has to rely on the stream. Same thing with Doa and Monte but they haven't made any big mistake. Nobody's listening to them though, so I guess that we'll never know. :-/ | ||
Yello
Germany7411 Posts
April 09 2013 11:08 GMT
#1055
On April 09 2013 20:06 Yello wrote: Winners' Match Yoda vs Flying Game 2: Daybreak 4:00min Flying goes for 2 fast Assimilators again with 2 Probes in each. Yoda goes for gasless 1-Rax Expand, building the CC at his natural 6:00min Flying this time builds a Zealot and immediately sends it cross map while building his MommaCore and his expansion Nexus Yoda builds a defensive Bunker before adding 2 Rax and 2 Refineries The Zealot gets pushed back by Marines but is able to scout Yoda's expansion Flying builds a Robo and adds 2 Gateways | ||
Nomzter
Sweden2802 Posts
April 09 2013 11:08 GMT
#1056
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Breach_hu
Hungary2431 Posts
April 09 2013 11:08 GMT
#1057
On April 09 2013 20:07 AxionSteel wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2013 20:06 wangstra wrote: On April 09 2013 19:46 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote: On April 09 2013 19:40 rothsbury wrote: On April 09 2013 19:37 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote: On April 09 2013 19:35 wangstra wrote: Jesus if you're shit at detecting widow mines, lead your army with a few lings. Shit? Fucking hell, people have zero respect... armchairs are so comfy, easy to think this game doesn't take skill to play. I'm a Master Zerg and wish I played 1/4th as good as him. Pro gamers get judged by pro standards. Like in all competitive play. If a pro tennis player fucks up they don't say "oh, well he's still much better than my 12 yr old daughter". Nah, I don't think this armchair mentality of throwing around needlessly hostile crap is fine just because progamers are progamers. "Jesus if you're shit at ..." The thing is he isn't shit at it. I was watching it and thought he died fairly well with detection and constant overseer usage but was obviously behind from the drone loss. I know how hard it's to micro this shit against players of my caliber, doing all this perfectly against a Yoda or similar is a whole different story. But yeah, I wonder if wangstra got much too show for or if he cannot actually judge what's shit and what's not. I don't think DRG is "shit", I think his control in that game vis a vis widow mines was ineffective. I Never been impressed by his unit control tbh. DRG was good at getting to 80 drones uncontested then build units. | ||
Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
April 09 2013 11:08 GMT
#1058
On April 09 2013 20:08 GolemMadness wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2013 20:06 Tobblish wrote: On April 09 2013 20:05 klaxen wrote: Keep in mind artosis doesn't have his own computer to observe, so he has to rely on the stream. Same thing with Doa and Monte but they haven't made any big mistake. Nobody's listening to them though, so I guess that we'll never know. :-/ The 1% | ||
Raskit
579 Posts
April 09 2013 11:09 GMT
#1059
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
April 09 2013 11:09 GMT
#1060
On April 09 2013 20:03 Tobblish wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl + Show Spoiler + Serious question is a answer like this considered caster bashing? Hardly, but shouldn't that be featured also? | ||
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