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On April 06 2013 09:59 Restraining Order wrote:In fact, I'm just going to quote myself on this matter. Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 11:30 Restraining Order wrote: Pick assassin and try to kill me with [RED] please.
That way I don't actually die to your stupidity.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'll stop reading your posts henceforth. Wouldn't be a problem if you'd actually think I'm mafia Except...rayn picks before me doesn't he? I'd just be a lowly peon VT then, with no scum-murdering gun.
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EBWOP: Oops, looks like I miscounted, make that 10.
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On April 06 2013 10:03 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 09:59 Restraining Order wrote:In fact, I'm just going to quote myself on this matter. On April 05 2013 11:30 Restraining Order wrote: Pick assassin and try to kill me with [RED] please.
That way I don't actually die to your stupidity.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'll stop reading your posts henceforth. Wouldn't be a problem if you'd actually think I'm mafia Except...rayn picks before me doesn't he? I'd just be a lowly peon VT then, with no scum-murdering gun. Convenient excuses.
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On April 06 2013 10:03 ObviousOne wrote: EBWOP: Oops, looks like I miscounted, make that 10. No, it's 9.
I have no idea where VE got the Caller thing from, and it's sad you just take his word.
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There's hardly anything convenient about telling you and your suggestion for my role pick to get bent my friend. You can accuse me of convenience if I fail to push your lynch tomorrow...good luck with that ever happening.
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On April 06 2013 10:06 Restraining Order wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 10:03 ObviousOne wrote: EBWOP: Oops, looks like I miscounted, make that 10. No, it's 9. I have no idea where VE got the Caller thing from, and it's sad you just take his word. If I've misread it please tell me how. It won't be the first time. I spent like 24 hours in Fruity misreading every little thing so just straighten me out instead of spitting in my face, thx.
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Actually I misread the quote-pyramid. He was saying he wanted to lynch Kier when I thought he was replying to Caller. My mistake.
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On April 06 2013 10:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Actually I misread the quote-pyramid. He was saying he wanted to lynch Kier when I thought he was replying to Caller. My mistake. ....
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less than 1 Hour to pick submission deadline right?
I've submitted mine, after some thought. I'd rather keep it quiet since scum killing me N1 is no fun, although I suppose they can just kill me on the grounds that whatever I have it's gotta be good right?
Also I really didn't want to read 45 boring pages of random plans that are easily influenced by scum and are also mostly neutered by scum knowing about them...
In hindsight, it was probably pretty unwise for me to pick first but that's water under the bridge now.
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RO, the proper response to that is not lol. At the very least, I'd be interested in hearing why you want to lynch a number of people who you also seem to think are town based on picks.
VE, dawn hits. A genie appears in front of you and says you can have three wishes IF you answer the following questions.
Which vet that doesn't care about pre-D1 is most like his townself? If RO gets teleported out of the game in the middle of D1, who would you lynch instead? Which ocean is best ocean?
How do you answer the genie's questions?
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On April 06 2013 10:07 VisceraEyes wrote: There's hardly anything convenient about telling you and your suggestion for my role pick to get bent my friend. You can accuse me of convenience if I fail to push your lynch tomorrow...good luck with that ever happening. No I suspect that is exactly what you are planning to do.
And you don't want to do the assassin thing cause then you'd have to find somebody else to mislynch, and that would be too much effort.
That's the thing, you don't want to kill me. You want to lynch me. Why waste your precious mafia KP, when you can waste town's lynch instead? Thread sentiment suggests you'd find enough people.
A lazy-mafia plan, but not exactly a bad one, I guess.
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If i pick a KP role i kill VE instantly.
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On April 06 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote: RO, the proper response to that is not lol. At the very least, I'd be interested in hearing why you want to lynch a number of people who you also seem to think are town based on picks. More and more people turned out to have picked 8, and more and more of them turned out to look mafia-ish. Suggesting that it's very possible mafia deliberatly picked people into 8. So i decided to scrap that idea and just not think about it anymore.
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First off, VE I like what you posted and will look into it further, but there's something very off-putting about it. I can't place a finger on it yet.
@Artanis I think you are reading my first post wrong. You phrase it as:
On April 05 2013 13:05 geript wrote: Hi, I think you're being townie, but you're not being you-townie, yet I still think you're townie but I'm not sure if you're townie.
Oh and I think you're pretty townie. It's more of:
On April 05 2013 13:05 geript wrote: Hi, I think you're being townie, but you're not being you-townie. Can you please confirm your 'you townieness'?
As for the last phrase:
On April 05 2013 13:05 geript wrote: As for your posting, I really like it. It was a direct response to:
On April 05 2013 13:00 Mocsta wrote: This is really surprising to me. I thought I have made a good effort to consolidate my posts, and be meaningul? Which I talked with him behind the scenes during The Game about. It is not how you read it as, "I like what you've posted."
As for the second point regarding investigation/protection roles, I think you're just projecting your values onto mine. I don't value investigation roles highly. In my experience they often come up biting someone in the ass or are used poorly. They also don't foster good town play IMO. I would much rather play for the 'block' and prevent scum from getting KP roles since their inherent KP is low in this game. As for protection roles, there are roles which can make such a huge disadvantage (including Hooker and Ackbar) and there's the added fact that you have to guess right. I'd much rather players counter draft and not use KP in order to extend the game than go for protection roles and hope to guess right as guessing right is much harder in a 20+ person game.
I cannot fully explain why I think Mocsta is town from that post. It is more a gut read one which I trust rather implicitly. If you don't like it then feel free to pressure me just not at the exclusion of other players.
As for the supposed scumslip, I would argue that most 'scum slips' are anything but. More often they are players trying to jump on a player for something that the feel is off. There is nothing wrong in what I said either. It is odd that a player who often puts himself at the forefront (VE) was so quiet in the pregame.
As a sidenote, Mocsta is right. I don't deserve the 'kid gloves' that I received last game. I definitely used it to my advantage last game when I was scum. Since you aren't familiar with my meta, as town I tend to shove myself into the spotlight rather than avoid it.
As to Mocsta's point about me taking a quote from VE from The Game to 'soft defend' a player then attack VE, it's irrelevant. I value many players' opinions about the game. I can spout many points from memory regarding various topics. The fact that VE made the point a good point last game then I pressured VE has no correlation. I am attempting to get the reads I feel capable of making at this point.
Now for rereading...
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On April 06 2013 10:15 Restraining Order wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote: RO, the proper response to that is not lol. At the very least, I'd be interested in hearing why you want to lynch a number of people who you also seem to think are town based on picks. More and more people turned out to have picked 8, and more and more of them turned out to look mafia-ish. Suggesting that it's very possible mafia deliberatly picked people into 8. So i decided to scrap that idea and just not think about it anymore. Can you give me a reason why multiple mafioso would all pick the same starting number beyond mindfuckery?
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On April 06 2013 10:18 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 10:15 Restraining Order wrote:On April 06 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote: RO, the proper response to that is not lol. At the very least, I'd be interested in hearing why you want to lynch a number of people who you also seem to think are town based on picks. More and more people turned out to have picked 8, and more and more of them turned out to look mafia-ish. Suggesting that it's very possible mafia deliberatly picked people into 8. So i decided to scrap that idea and just not think about it anymore. Can you give me a reason why multiple mafioso would all pick the same starting number beyond mindfuckery? Why go beyond mindfuckery?
Mindfuckery is kind of what mafia do...
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On April 06 2013 10:15 Restraining Order wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote: RO, the proper response to that is not lol. At the very least, I'd be interested in hearing why you want to lynch a number of people who you also seem to think are town based on picks. More and more people turned out to have picked 8, and more and more of them turned out to look mafia-ish. Suggesting that it's very possible mafia deliberatly picked people into 8. So i decided to scrap that idea and just not think about it anymore. Stupid.
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On April 06 2013 10:15 Restraining Order wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote: RO, the proper response to that is not lol. At the very least, I'd be interested in hearing why you want to lynch a number of people who you also seem to think are town based on picks. More and more people turned out to have picked 8, and more and more of them turned out to look mafia-ish. Suggesting that it's very possible mafia deliberatly picked people into 8. So i decided to scrap that idea and just not think about it anymore. And you acuse ME of convenient excuses. Hang.
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One last thing... @Mocsta. IIRC you and Oats have history. You've gotten into it in both the Nomination and Hydra games(as well as a few newbie games AFAIK). Can you tell me what you think of Oats currently? I have no experience with him and would like your insight.
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