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On March 26 2013 13:12 strongandbig wrote: yeah man you didnt even call me scum when you thought i was being stupid
you third party survivor or something
that was @marvellosity
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I didn't ignore all of Dandel's town games.
I specifically remember games like Personality where he makes REASONED posts as town and manages to look town. This game, he has FAILED to do that.
Is it that difficult to understand? Perhaps he has yet to do some kind of awesome townie move, as you suggest, but I remain skeptical.
I'll concede that the opening point wasn't an overly strong one. Obviously you've managed to prove that he trolls as town. Grand, so I guess we just ignore him until he doesn't troll.
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On March 26 2013 13:10 marvellosity wrote: not for now
The last few games we've played together (in which you were town), I got the feeling that you were obv-town very early on through your engagement and care-bear attitude towards the thread.
This game is anything but right now. All I have from you is a) A couple of non-serious early-game votes b) A bunch of wishy-washy attitudes on several players c) Some wierd-ass "180-thing" on InsertSmurfHere's case:
On March 26 2013 12:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 12:27 Hapahauli wrote: Ok so you have a meta comparison between one of Dandel's scum games and this game. That's cool and all, but you're missing one giant piece in the analogy you're trying to make.
Brownie points to you if you point out your own logical flaw. Even more brownie points for you if you manage to discuss the stuff Mr. Smurf talks about from within this particular game!
On March 26 2013 13:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 13:04 InsertSmurfHere wrote: The games I've read of town Dandel are him where he replaced in for another player. Perhaps it is my unfamiliarity with his general play in the opening phase of the game that you seem to have a better handle on.
Fine, we'll play the waiting game you suggest. In the mean time, I'll look through some other filters. His was simply the most egregious at the moment. Hopefully some of the lurkier players like sinani and nisani start posting more. Their question remains - when analysing someone's opening play you actively chose not to research how Dandel opens as town. I didn't expect you to squirm so much with this line of questioning.
... in which you start off ignoring my point about Smurf glossing over dandel's town meta to criticize my approach to the game, followed by sheeping my point.
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On March 26 2013 13:17 InsertSmurfHere wrote: I didn't ignore all of Dandel's town games.
I specifically remember games like Personality where he makes REASONED posts as town and manages to look town. This game, he has FAILED to do that.
Is it that difficult to understand? Perhaps he has yet to do some kind of awesome townie move, as you suggest, but I remain skeptical.
I'll concede that the opening point wasn't an overly strong one. Obviously you've managed to prove that he trolls as town. Grand, so I guess we just ignore him until he doesn't troll.
All these random snark remarks like this make me think you want to lynch him because of personal hatred of his play rather than because you think he's scum.
As for the "ignoring Dandel's town-games" thing, it's really really off to see someone make a major meta case and ignore something that obvious.
Like Personality 2... why didn't you mention that in your case? I'd have a lot more sympathy for that point if you had brought it up initially. Right now, it sounds like your'e pulling it out of your ass.
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I am null on Marv. However, town Marv just got horrifically burned in Personality. I can see him being cautious and off his game. Anyway, calling Marv scum (for realz, not for trollz) today is pointless. It will just cause a horrific tunnelfest that shits up the thread. Either Marv will get back into his groove and prove his value to town, or he won't and we lynch him later.
I am more interested in returning to Smurf. His position on DI just seems too glib. Not sure how to say it differently, but the read feels forced and there is something weird about how he backs down from it so easily. What he says about Palmar hits about right, although I am more cautious. Meh, I need more info.
Smurf, what is your opinion on Hapa?
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##Unvote
Just so many options ya know...
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On March 26 2013 13:35 Acrofales wrote: I am null on Marv. However, town Marv just got horrifically burned in Personality. I can see him being cautious and off his game. Anyway, calling Marv scum (for realz, not for trollz) today is pointless. It will just cause a horrific tunnelfest that shits up the thread. Either Marv will get back into his groove and prove his value to town, or he won't and we lynch him later.
That's nonsense. Marv is a big boy and can handle the heat.
I am more interested in returning to Smurf. His position on DI just seems too glib. Not sure how to say it differently, but the read feels forced and there is something weird about how he backs down from it so easily. What he says about Palmar hits about right, although I am more cautious. Meh, I need more info.
Smurf, what is your opinion on Hapa?[/QUOTE]
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EBWOP: (Didn't finish post TT)
On March 26 2013 13:35 Acrofales wrote: I am null on Marv. However, town Marv just got horrifically burned in Personality. I can see him being cautious and off his game. Anyway, calling Marv scum (for realz, not for trollz) today is pointless. It will just cause a horrific tunnelfest that shits up the thread. Either Marv will get back into his groove and prove his value to town, or he won't and we lynch him later.
That's nonsense. Marv is a big boy and can handle the heat.
I am more interested in returning to Smurf. His position on DI just seems too glib. Not sure how to say it differently, but the read feels forced and there is something weird about how he backs down from it so easily. What he says about Palmar hits about right, although I am more cautious. Meh, I need more info.
Reads as a pretty typical scum-case tbh. Going after a troll because he's trolling, while ignoring glaringly obvious meta-points that could harm his case.
He's bringing up the Peronality 2 stuff in retrospect, but I don't buy that. He had plenty of opportunity to bring that up in his case and didn't do so.
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Do I really even have to tell you I think you look the most town out of everyone so far?
I think you're a good enough player to know how people read you, Hapa.
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Have you READ the games in which Marv was pressured early when he was town? If not, I suggest you do. Neither MTG 2 nor Personality 2 were much fun for anybody involved... and I don't remember the older games in which similar things happened.
Anyway, town Marv WILL be productive if you leave him to do his thing. I think that that is pretty much proven.
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On March 26 2013 13:20 Hapahauli wrote: This game is anything but right now. All I have from you is a) A couple of non-serious early-game votes b) A bunch of wishy-washy attitudes on several players
Come on Hapa. Really? That goes against everything you know about scum marv. Hell, it directly contradicts the big case you pushed on him in GSL 3.
Why you using backwards logic? :o
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On March 26 2013 13:41 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Do I really even have to tell you I think you look the most town out of everyone so far?
I think you're a good enough player to know how people read you, Hapa.
Acro asked that. I'm not THAT ego-centric ya know.
On March 26 2013 13:42 Acrofales wrote: Have you READ the games in which Marv was pressured early when he was town? If not, I suggest you do. Neither MTG 2 nor Personality 2 were much fun for anybody involved... and I don't remember the older games in which similar things happened.
Anyway, town Marv WILL be productive if you leave him to do his thing. I think that that is pretty much proven.
Yes, and he becomes really obv-town when he gets pressured as town.
Keep in mind that one of his best town performances was Rockband Mini, in which he had a lackluster early Day 1, got his titties twisted, and proceeded to disembowel the scum-team.
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On March 26 2013 13:44 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 13:20 Hapahauli wrote: This game is anything but right now. All I have from you is a) A couple of non-serious early-game votes b) A bunch of wishy-washy attitudes on several players
Come on Hapa. Really? That goes against everything you know about scum marv. Hell, it directly contradicts the big case you pushed on him in GSL 3. Why you using backwards logic? :o
The GSL III case was incredibly situational.
Secondly my post (that you quoted) is more about me being annoyed at marv's non-contribution so far. And given that marv loves nothing more than to spam up early Day 1 and get into the thick of things as town, I'm quite alarmed.
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On March 26 2013 13:41 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Do I really even have to tell you I think you look the most town out of everyone so far?
I think you're a good enough player to know how people read you, Hapa. I am really surprised that you have Hapa down as obvious town. I don't think it's that obvious at all. Especially given Hapa's rather tricksy scumplay.
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EBWOP: what makes you say he's town?
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Acrofales seemed to be making a lot of sense at the beginning of the game and now he's looking really bad. He said this:
On March 26 2013 10:54 Acrofales wrote: However, if you BELIEVE OO is lying about not having read his role PM; you should really be in favour of lynching him. The ONLY reason to LIE about this, is because he's scum. There is no townie reason to lie and say you have not read your role PM.
The joking stage of the game is over and he's still trying to drag it on into seriousness. And looking back at his filter, he said a lot of things about how people should be interpreting OO's words without putting in his own opinion. And in general there isn't much real content in his filter. I think he's scum.
##vote acrofales
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On March 26 2013 13:51 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 13:41 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Do I really even have to tell you I think you look the most town out of everyone so far?
I think you're a good enough player to know how people read you, Hapa. I am really surprised that you have Hapa down as obvious town. I don't think it's that obvious at all. Especially given Hapa's rather tricksy scumplay.
Oh come on. If there's anything you should have learned from Duel Mini is that my scum-game is pretty easy to catch if spend 2 minutes looking at my meta.
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On March 26 2013 13:51 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 13:41 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Do I really even have to tell you I think you look the most town out of everyone so far?
I think you're a good enough player to know how people read you, Hapa. I am really surprised that you have Hapa down as obvious town. I don't think it's that obvious at all. Especially given Hapa's rather tricksy scumplay. Yeah, no.
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On March 26 2013 13:52 Nisani201 wrote:Acrofales seemed to be making a lot of sense at the beginning of the game and now he's looking really bad. He said this: Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 10:54 Acrofales wrote: However, if you BELIEVE OO is lying about not having read his role PM; you should really be in favour of lynching him. The ONLY reason to LIE about this, is because he's scum. There is no townie reason to lie and say you have not read your role PM. The joking stage of the game is over and he's still trying to drag it on into seriousness. And looking back at his filter, he said a lot of things about how people should be interpreting OO's words without putting in his own opinion. And in general there isn't much real content in his filter. I think he's scum. ##vote acrofales
Acro is already on page 2 of his filter in the first few hours of the game. That's not exactly "contentless" as you suggest. Also, I don't understand the bolded segment... how is that alignment indicative?
None of this stuff really rings to me given that this is your 3rd post all game.
What are your thoughts on some of hte other suspicions in the game? Namely prplzh, InsertSmurfHere, and Marv?
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The bold part doesn't mean anything, that's just what he had bolded in his post. The point is that that post is telling people to vote based on what's happening in the meaningless beginning parts of the game.
"Contentless" isn't about quantity, it's about how much of his posts have his own opinions on things. Which isn't really in his filter at all.
I don't know how prplhz is a primary suspicion in this game, he has 3 posts which all mean nothing.
InsertSmurfHere's analysis on Dandel looks like scum bait. No one bit it, which is unfortunate but these things don't always work.
I don't see anything weird about marv, is there a case on him? Because if there is then I don't remember reading it.
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