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On March 26 2013 14:57 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 14:54 Acrofales wrote:
However, if he DOES act as a townie, then worst-case, he is scum with a chance of bussing his buddies. I don't mind scum who bus their scumbuddies at all. They're my favourite kind of scum. They then get caught lategame, because they'll have to survive umpteen lynches all by themselves (and if he still hasn't read his role PM, then he has to survive without KP, making it all the easier to catch him) Wait wait wait what? How do you propose we catch this 'scum' who hasnt read his role pm? If you say that he acts like a townie, what differentiates him from the other townies? How does him having no KP make it easier? Wtf acro.
I read my role PM before I started writing my last post. Just so you know. That seems to be a sticking point and you can put it to rest.
First post was just for fun. If you don't recognize the flavor: + Show Spoiler +On February 26 2013 10:25 Chezinu wrote:
Hello everyone.
Before we began, I think it is important for everyone to get to know one another. As an ice breaker, I would like everyone to state their name and post three things about themselves which may not be known to the others people here. Two are true and one is not.
I will start.
My name is Chezinu
I have read my role
I never played a newbie game
I am not The Scribe!
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On March 26 2013 14:57 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 14:54 Acrofales wrote:
However, if he DOES act as a townie, then worst-case, he is scum with a chance of bussing his buddies. I don't mind scum who bus their scumbuddies at all. They're my favourite kind of scum. They then get caught lategame, because they'll have to survive umpteen lynches all by themselves (and if he still hasn't read his role PM, then he has to survive without KP, making it all the easier to catch him) Wait wait wait what? How do you propose we catch this 'scum' who hasnt read his role pm? If you say that he acts like a townie, what differentiates him from the other townies? How does him having no KP make it easier? Wtf acro.
USE YOUR BRAIN FOR ONCE. IN. A. MAFIA. GAME. EVER. PLEASE.
We lynch scum. We lynch another scum. We lynch another scum. KP stops. Golly, I wonder who could be the last scum? Maybe that dude who still hasn't read his role PM and therefore doesn't know he should be sending in nightly hits!
Also, if he does read his role PM in time to send in the NKs and you reach 2-1 lylo with someone who looked townie all game and someone who has looked townie, but claimed not to read his role PM, LYNCH THE FUCKING GUY WHO HASN'T READ HIS ROLE PM UNTIL LATE IN THE GAME.
If town has people left who failed to look properly townie alive after a minimum of 5 lynches, in which 3 scum were nailed, then I don't know what to tell you. Townies failed miserably.
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On March 26 2013 15:13 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 14:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 26 2013 14:54 Acrofales wrote:
However, if he DOES act as a townie, then worst-case, he is scum with a chance of bussing his buddies. I don't mind scum who bus their scumbuddies at all. They're my favourite kind of scum. They then get caught lategame, because they'll have to survive umpteen lynches all by themselves (and if he still hasn't read his role PM, then he has to survive without KP, making it all the easier to catch him) Wait wait wait what? How do you propose we catch this 'scum' who hasnt read his role pm? If you say that he acts like a townie, what differentiates him from the other townies? How does him having no KP make it easier? Wtf acro. USE YOUR BRAIN FOR ONCE. IN. A. MAFIA. GAME. EVER. PLEASE. We lynch scum. We lynch another scum. We lynch another scum. KP stops. Golly, I wonder who could be the last scum? Maybe that dude who still hasn't read his role PM and therefore doesn't know he should be sending in nightly hits! Also, if he does read his role PM in time to send in the NKs and you reach 2-1 lylo with someone who looked townie all game and someone who has looked townie, but claimed not to read his role PM, LYNCH THE FUCKING GUY WHO HASN'T READ HIS ROLE PM UNTIL LATE IN THE GAME. If town has people left who failed to look properly townie alive after a minimum of 5 lynches, in which 3 scum were nailed, then I don't know what to tell you. Townies failed miserably.
lol
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Acro/OO: Thoughts on Grack?
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Acro you are blowing OO saying that he hasn't read his role pm way out of proportion. It was annoying at first, but now it's looking scummy.
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On March 26 2013 15:17 cDgCorazon wrote:
Acro you are blowing OO saying that he hasn't read his role pm way out of proportion. It was annoying at first, but now it's looking scummy.
He just said he has actually read his role PM.
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On March 26 2013 15:13 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 14:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 26 2013 14:54 Acrofales wrote:
However, if he DOES act as a townie, then worst-case, he is scum with a chance of bussing his buddies. I don't mind scum who bus their scumbuddies at all. They're my favourite kind of scum. They then get caught lategame, because they'll have to survive umpteen lynches all by themselves (and if he still hasn't read his role PM, then he has to survive without KP, making it all the easier to catch him) Wait wait wait what? How do you propose we catch this 'scum' who hasnt read his role pm? If you say that he acts like a townie, what differentiates him from the other townies? How does him having no KP make it easier? Wtf acro. USE YOUR BRAIN FOR ONCE. IN. A. MAFIA. GAME. EVER. PLEASE. We lynch scum. We lynch another scum. We lynch another scum. KP stops. Golly, I wonder who could be the last scum? Maybe that dude who still hasn't read his role PM and therefore doesn't know he should be sending in nightly hits! Also, if he does read his role PM in time to send in the NKs and you reach 2-1 lylo with someone who looked townie all game and someone who has looked townie, but claimed not to read his role PM, LYNCH THE FUCKING GUY WHO HASN'T READ HIS ROLE PM UNTIL LATE IN THE GAME. If town has people left who failed to look properly townie alive after a minimum of 5 lynches, in which 3 scum were nailed, then I don't know what to tell you. Townies failed miserably.
Enough of the policy lynch bullshit
Who do you want to lynch NOW?
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On March 26 2013 15:15 Keirathi wrote:
Acro/OO: Thoughts on Grack?
Grack reads like he's ready to become an echo of thread sentiment. By admission this is a return to the game and he may be a bit rusty for that.
I liked:
On March 26 2013 11:17 Grackaroni wrote:
For the record Hapa: When I say that I don't like Sinani using the fact that OO didn't read his role PM to say that he is scum.
I mean that Sinani is using scummy logic. (he is misconstruing something that should not be alignment indicative and using it against OO to say that he is scum.)
This is my first game in a long time and I am having some trouble finding where I need to focus. But I am giving reads and I will continue to do so.
Lack of forthcoming reads about people he's asking questions about is kind of weird, him espousing as much is highlighted here:
On March 26 2013 12:56 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 12:49 strongandbig wrote:On March 26 2013 12:45 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like the case on Dandel Ion. He seems to troll regardless of alignment so there's nothing in there that points to him being scum this game as opposed to just anti-town.
@ISH Why didn't you bother to look up a town game of Dandel Ion? u scum bro? No..... I know what you dislike. I didn't say anything about what I think of Dandel Ion or ISH in that post. But I wasn't intending to because I haven't drawn any conclusions on them from it. All i am saying is that I dislike the case and for good reason.
Calling out sinani for tunneling on my meaningless hello post: null
We can find out a lot more about him when there are some concrete bits mid-day besides his interactions with sinani.
Looking at it again, there's a kind of nugget in the middle there with the interaction between him and Palmar. (BTW I've never played with a D1-talkative Palmar before, this is kind of surreal.) He flat out gave Palmar a town read instead of proposing a better lynch target. Okay, that's weird.
Scum points and town points, I want to see more. More red than green. Are you picking up what I'm putting down?
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On March 26 2013 15:39 ObviousOne wrote:
Are you picking up what I'm putting down?
Honestly, no.  Your whole post is kind of ramble-y. No thoughts on my case?
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EBWOP: Also, I'm going to bed. G'nite.
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On March 26 2013 15:49 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 15:39 ObviousOne wrote:
Are you picking up what I'm putting down? Honestly, no. Your whole post is kind of ramble-y. No thoughts on my case?
They say it don't be like it is, but it do.
I don't know about your case. I probably only skimmed it once. Need sleep as well. Remind me later.
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two things. Should I assume the smurf is a bad player, or is he scum?
Why isn't everyone sheeping me yet?
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Palmar, why cant smurf be good but wrong?
Also,
what makes your target different from sinani or nisani?
What do you think of prplhz?
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I'm ignoring the random spam of questions, but go read his case and then actually read DI's filter.
DI is not surely town, but the reasoning brought up by the smurf is just not correct. There is a difference between DI's filter this game and the ones he brought up. In this game he's offering much more explanations than in the filters provided. Sure he spams a bit too, and he might be scum, having noticed that adding at least some value to the thread may be helpful.
In fact DI is currently in the null territory for me. But that doesn't make smurf's case any less fabricated and untrue. The only common thing in DI's filter in both games are a few spammy one-liners but who cares?
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On March 26 2013 17:50 Palmar wrote:
I'm ignoring the random spam of questions, but go read his case and then actually read DI's filter.
DI is not surely town, but the reasoning brought up by the smurf is just not correct. There is a difference between DI's filter this game and the ones he brought up. In this game he's offering much more explanations than in the filters provided. Sure he spams a bit too, and he might be scum, having noticed that adding at least some value to the thread may be helpful.
In fact DI is currently in the null territory for me. But that doesn't make smurf's case any less fabricated and untrue. The only common thing in DI's filter in both games are a few spammy one-liners but who cares?
Yeah ok so smurfs case is bad. Big deal.
What do you think about SnB's case on prplhz then?
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On March 26 2013 18:25 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 17:50 Palmar wrote:
I'm ignoring the random spam of questions, but go read his case and then actually read DI's filter.
DI is not surely town, but the reasoning brought up by the smurf is just not correct. There is a difference between DI's filter this game and the ones he brought up. In this game he's offering much more explanations than in the filters provided. Sure he spams a bit too, and he might be scum, having noticed that adding at least some value to the thread may be helpful.
In fact DI is currently in the null territory for me. But that doesn't make smurf's case any less fabricated and untrue. The only common thing in DI's filter in both games are a few spammy one-liners but who cares?
Yeah ok so smurfs case is bad. Big deal. What do you think about SnB's case on prplhz then?
I think it's a big deal and I'm going to ignore your other question.
What I want to understand is why did he write a false case. Is it a mistake? Is it lack of effort? Is it a forced case because he needs to make it look like he's doing something?
Smurf, get in here and be useful.
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On March 26 2013 18:45 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 18:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 26 2013 17:50 Palmar wrote:
I'm ignoring the random spam of questions, but go read his case and then actually read DI's filter.
DI is not surely town, but the reasoning brought up by the smurf is just not correct. There is a difference between DI's filter this game and the ones he brought up. In this game he's offering much more explanations than in the filters provided. Sure he spams a bit too, and he might be scum, having noticed that adding at least some value to the thread may be helpful.
In fact DI is currently in the null territory for me. But that doesn't make smurf's case any less fabricated and untrue. The only common thing in DI's filter in both games are a few spammy one-liners but who cares?
Yeah ok so smurfs case is bad. Big deal. What do you think about SnB's case on prplhz then? I think it's a big deal and I'm going to ignore your other question. What I want to understand is why did he write a false case. Is it a mistake? Is it lack of effort? Is it a forced case because he needs to make it look like he's doing something? Smurf, get in here and be useful.
Stop tunneling afk dudes and talk to me.
Is SnB's case bad?
Yes/No?
If yes, does that mean that SnB is scum
If no, does that mean that prp is scum?
Also have your thoughts changed about Grackaroni?
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No my thoughts about grackaroni are exactly the same.
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Here's why ObviousOne is scum:
On March 26 2013 14:08 ObviousOne wrote:==Some thoughts on today's action== + Show Spoiler +On March 26 2013 10:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 10:34 Keirathi wrote:On March 26 2013 10:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And given that you don't (at least you should not) know prplhz's alignment how exactly is it not beneficial to see how he reacts to the case first? Because it doesn't matter a single bit how he reacts because the case was built on false information. Hell, if I was scum, I would love nothing more than for someone to make a case on me that I could so easily refute just by posting a few quotes from my previous games that wouldn't even be hard to find. The point of making "cases" isn't to convince the person they are scum. They are to convince everyone else that someone is scum. Plus, S&B was asking for opinions about his case. The problem with meta in this prplhz case is that it's the easiest thing in the world to fake. Even the dumbest idiot could probably fake their "town meta" by posting some general advice as their first post. Other than that part, you are right. Broken out, preserving the interaction above: Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 10:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And given that you don't (at least you should not) know prplhz's alignment how exactly is it not beneficial to see how he reacts to the case first? I thought about this sentence for a while. I probably thought about it for too long. It might even be nothing. I thought about what a Rayn might be implying here, assuming town: If we emphasize the "don't" and following parenthesis, the implication here is that Rayn is calling out Kei for shutting down a potentially useful avenue of information. Okay, I get that. I thought about what Rayn might be implying here, assuming mafia: If we emphasize the "given that you" portion, we get a scum claim.
I don't know Rayn, and I can't reference the only other recent game since it's ongoing, so I want to say it's believe from a town mindset as an accusation against Kei derailing SNB's poorly constructed case. The alternative is a tired mind, ready for sleep, just posting for the sake of posting and literally claiming scum in the thread. So this interaction took me to Keirathi's filter where I found myself in a land of opinion-less posts and pseudo-random votes. This is not the town voice of Keirathi I remember from the Hydra game we played in together. It reminds me more of the safer and more timid Keirathi of 6 months ago, which was a safe way to play... the only town points in his favor IMO are that he derailed SNB's case for the right reason. (An addendum for later--) It's demonstrably fact that Keirathi has essentially defended prplhz by attacking SNB's case which says nothing now about them individually but should be remembered in the late stages of the game if it's still pertinent. Right now based on signal-to-noise ratio of Keirathi's filter, I'm calling him scum. What do you guys think?
Why this post is incredibly scummy?
First OO says i may or may not be scum based on semantics i used in my response to Keirathi. It's irrelevant in the first place because if i answer to Keirathi or ask something about him i call him "you", not "we" . No matter how hard you try to twist the words the post does not turn into a "scum claim".
Next he talks about referencing the other game i'm playing in, which he can't do in the first place. Why in the world bring up something you can't talk about in the first place?
And the read on me ends up into conclusion "may or may not be scum". How convinient.
Then the case on Keirathi. It says that Keirathi has done some maybe scummy stuff that is not better explained. Then he has done some townie stuff. Then he calls Keirathi scum. With no vote on him. Even asking What do you think?
If you think someone is scum you don't ask what do people think about them. You make a case which forces people to say what do they think about it. Notice that after this post he moves to completely different things. If i thought Keirathi was scum i sure would want to know more about him.
In all this post is filled with lots of "if's", "but's" and "may or may not's". There are no conclusions or follow up's. It looks good in filter later (as contributing) but is meant to be dissappeared in the backgrounds. That's what it looks like to me.
##Unvote: prplhz
##Vote: ObviousOne
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rayn I have a reason to lean very slightly on town on you. Please consider lynching Grackaroni instead of this lynch.
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