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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Brownie points to you if you point out your own logical flaw. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 26 2013 12:27 Hapahauli wrote: Ok so you have a meta comparison between one of Dandel's scum games and this game. That's cool and all, but you're missing one giant piece in the analogy you're trying to make. Brownie points to you if you point out your own logical flaw. Even more brownie points for you if you manage to discuss the stuff Mr. Smurf talks about from within this particular game! | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On March 26 2013 12:30 marvellosity wrote: Even more brownie points for you if you manage to discuss the stuff Mr. Smurf talks about from within this particular game! What's there to discuss? Nothing Dandel has done is alignment indicative so far. Though I'm waiting for our good smurfy friend to respond to have a grand debate about it. | ||
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InsertSmurfHere
288 Posts
From your filter, that is what I surmise is your opinion of him already. If that's the case, I guess you're content to let him lurk away the rest of day 1 as he intends? Or...? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 26 2013 12:37 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Is he an idiot as town, too? From your filter, that is what I surmise is your opinion of him already. If that's the case, I guess you're content to let him lurk away the rest of day 1 as he intends? Or...? it's like 5am in Austria. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On March 26 2013 12:37 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Is he an idiot as town, too? Bingo. Have you read one of his town games? Like did you not even bother to look through one of his town games before writing your case? That's a pretty big mis-step. From your filter, that is what I surmise is your opinion of him already. If that's the case, I guess you're content to let him lurk away the rest of day 1 as he intends? Or...? Not at all. Dandel will tip his hand as the day moves on. I have no opinion of him currently. And I'm sure as hell not going to lynch him for some random post that says "LURKER MODE ON." It's an obvious troll post that shouldn't be taken seriously. Hell he's been the opposite of a lurky player so far. From this passage, I get the feeling you're lynching him more because you hate his play rather than because you think he's scum. What gives? | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
@ISH Why didn't you bother to look up a town game of Dandel Ion? | ||
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InsertSmurfHere
288 Posts
Regardless, you seem a little too content to let him do nothing but troll this game. Your faith that he is going so magically do something different than he has so far is misplaced, in my opinion. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On March 26 2013 12:45 Grackaroni wrote: I don't like the case on Dandel Ion. He seems to troll regardless of alignment so there's nothing in there that points to him being scum this game as opposed to just anti-town. @ISH Why didn't you bother to look up a town game of Dandel Ion? u scum bro? | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
No..... I know what you dislike. I didn't say anything about what I think of Dandel Ion or ISH in that post. But I wasn't intending to because I haven't drawn any conclusions on them from it. All i am saying is that I dislike the case and for good reason. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On March 26 2013 12:49 InsertSmurfHere wrote: I've read Dandel as town and he usually attempts to justify his actions more so than he is here. Perhaps that's not your perception of him, but I will check again to see. Regardless, you seem a little too content to let him do nothing but troll this game. Your faith that he is going so magically do something different than he has so far is misplaced, in my opinion. Dandel always opens this trolly as scum or town. What's alignment indicative is what he does after the opening phase. As for me being "content to let him troll", that's nonsense. I know Dandel enough to realize that what he's doing now isn't alignment indicative. However he's very easily readable based on his actions beyond the opening phase of Day 1. Now questions for you: 1) Why did you ignore all of Dandel's town meta when making your case? You said you're just getting to it now, which is alarming. You're seemingly a competent player given that you're well-spoken and understand how to use the filter button. So how could you make such a glaring logical error when making a meta-analogy? 2) These quotes... From your filter, that is what I surmise is your opinion of him already. If that's the case, I guess you're content to let him lurk away the rest of day 1 as he intends? Regardless, you seem a little too content to let him do nothing but troll this game. Your faith that he is going so magically do something different than he has so far is misplaced, in my opinion. ...why are you trying to appeal to my hatred of his play to get him lynched? It sounds like you're justifying lynching him based on objections to his playstyle rather than sound logic. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17991 Posts
On March 26 2013 12:49 InsertSmurfHere wrote: I've read Dandel as town and he usually attempts to justify his actions more so than he is here. Perhaps that's not your perception of him, but I will check again to see. Regardless, you seem a little too content to let him do nothing but troll this game. Your faith that he is going so magically do something different than he has so far is misplaced, in my opinion. Meh. Later in the game. No alarm bells have gone off yet. DI will spam fluff regardless of alignment. Later on in D1 and as the game continues I expect more from him. Voting for him now is basically a policy lynch on his playstyle. Imho, there is nothing indicative of alignment from him so far. What do you think of Palmar? | ||
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InsertSmurfHere
288 Posts
Fine, we'll play the waiting game you suggest. In the mean time, I'll look through some other filters. His was simply the most egregious at the moment. Hopefully some of the lurkier players like sinani and nisani start posting more. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On March 26 2013 13:04 InsertSmurfHere wrote: The games I've read of town Dandel are him where he replaced in for another player. Perhaps it is my unfamiliarity with his general play in the opening phase of the game that you seem to have a better handle on. Fine, we'll play the waiting game you suggest. In the mean time, I'll look through some other filters. His was simply the most egregious at the moment. Hopefully some of the lurkier players like sinani and nisani start posting more. You didn't answer my questions. Secondly, Dandel has his entire game history posted in his player-profile: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Dandel Ion It's incredibly easy to find games in which he didn't replace in for people. It sounds like you cherry picked his games instead of putting in the minimal effort to double-check your case. So let's keep talking about Dandel: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397553 That's one of his recent town-games. Talk about his opening there and tell me if it supports your case or not. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 26 2013 13:04 InsertSmurfHere wrote: The games I've read of town Dandel are him where he replaced in for another player. Perhaps it is my unfamiliarity with his general play in the opening phase of the game that you seem to have a better handle on. Fine, we'll play the waiting game you suggest. In the mean time, I'll look through some other filters. His was simply the most egregious at the moment. Hopefully some of the lurkier players like sinani and nisani start posting more. Their question remains - when analysing someone's opening play you actively chose not to research how Dandel opens as town. I didn't expect you to squirm so much with this line of questioning. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Take a stance man. You've been doing jack. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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InsertSmurfHere
288 Posts
On March 26 2013 13:01 Acrofales wrote: Meh. Later in the game. No alarm bells have gone off yet. DI will spam fluff regardless of alignment. Later on in D1 and as the game continues I expect more from him. Voting for him now is basically a policy lynch on his playstyle. Imho, there is nothing indicative of alignment from him so far. What do you think of Palmar? Palmar looks town. He always comes in the thread saying someone is scum or lynch someone in every game I've played with him. I've never seen scum Palmar, so perhaps I am biased, but he seems earnest in his attempts to lead town. As for his target, grack, I'm not as convinced as he is. The guy is timid, sure, but a short filter this early in the game does not a scum make. I'm more willing to let that play out organically. The fact that Palmar comes in the thread firing away at this player obviously makes it so that he's even more aware of how he's posting, which makes it seem even weirder. While it's nothing against Palmar, it does make it more difficult to know if this is just Grack's general mentality as a player or if it is just a result of the pressure he feels. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
you third party survivor or something | ||
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