Yeah I think our right.
Thnx for reminding me
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
March 21 2013 14:34 GMT
#2301
On March 21 2013 23:32 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On March 21 2013 23:18 Mocsta wrote: Also now that the cycle is over. Can u pls post full mason log with BH BH did didn't he? Yeah I think our right. Thnx for reminding me | ||
layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 21 2013 14:37 GMT
#2302
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
March 21 2013 14:39 GMT
#2303
On March 21 2013 23:37 layabout wrote: Mocsta you have 12 pages of filter from before you read the thread FFS stop playing like this!!! Excuse me. Where were u when the thread was at a critical point? U can attack me for a spammy filter whatever..but at least I was here when it mattered | ||
Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
March 21 2013 14:43 GMT
#2304
Question. Geript. His filter states that he was a firm advocate of a ve lynch. And he even went out of his way to produce some reasons why. However, if u look at the final vote count. His vote went from from vote leader ve to ace, thus putting ve and ace in a tie breaker. I couldn't see any reference in his filter to suggest he was keen on an ace vote. 1. Do u agree with the above. 2. Both if u have played with geript before. Are u finding his posting to be what u expect of a town geript? | ||
layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 21 2013 14:54 GMT
#2305
On March 21 2013 23:39 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On March 21 2013 23:37 layabout wrote: Mocsta you have 12 pages of filter from before you read the thread FFS stop playing like this!!! Excuse me. Where were u when the thread was at a critical point? U can attack me for a spammy filter whatever..but at least I was here when it mattered In bed asleep because i live in England and it was 2am-7am and you all thought it was a great time to dick on everything that happened when ppl were here. There is a reason days are 48 hours long. Also you were spamming when you hadn't even read the fucking thread. How in god's name are you playing when you have not read the fucking thread? And how can what you are saying be of value? | ||
Vivax
21700 Posts
March 21 2013 14:58 GMT
#2306
+ Show Spoiler + On March 21 2013 16:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Final vote count: VOTE COUNT! Day 2 ThePeashooter (0): goodkarma (3): Wade Fell (0): Mr. Wiggles (3): zarepath (0): WaveofShadow (0): VisceraEyes (6): cosmicomics, cosmicomics (0): TestSubject893 (0): Mocsta (1): glurio Coagulation (0): Vivax (1): Kenpachi Ace (8): Mr. Wiggles, goodkarma, DoYouHas, VisceraEyes, TranceStorm, geript, ThePeashooter, Mocsta, DarthPunk Voting is compulsory Please label who you are unvoting, it makes it easier for me. Four people sheeped the case of their SCUMREAD???HELLO?Since when do you trust the cases your scumread makes? I might understand VE cause he might be third party and only gives a fuck about himself but the others, except for DYH currently are my scumreads. GK and Trancestorm holy shit | ||
Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
March 21 2013 15:02 GMT
#2307
On March 21 2013 23:54 layabout wrote: Show nested quote + On March 21 2013 23:39 Mocsta wrote: On March 21 2013 23:37 layabout wrote: Mocsta you have 12 pages of filter from before you read the thread FFS stop playing like this!!! Excuse me. Where were u when the thread was at a critical point? U can attack me for a spammy filter whatever..but at least I was here when it mattered In bed asleep because i live in England and it was 2am-7am and you all thought it was a great time to dick on everything that happened when ppl were here. There is a reason days are 48 hours long. Also you were spamming when you hadn't even read the fucking thread. How in god's name are you playing when you have not read the fucking thread? And how can what you are saying be of value? It was rhetorical I knew where u were. Regardless u have been a non entity almost the entire game. I don't see how u can even want to contest that. And dude. Stop throwing stones from glass houses, cos.. Whats ya point here. We just had a mislynch, and when shit went down u weren't here. Where is your effort to figure out how we got to an ace lynch. Instead. What we get is u throwing shit at me. And for what purpose? How is this solving the game? If u think I'm scum.. Call me scum.. Say I'm spamming and prove I have added zero value. Otherwise, go and do some thing useful...hint.. Trying to discredit me does not count. | ||
Vivax
21700 Posts
March 21 2013 15:04 GMT
#2308
He should still think it through 10 times before joining such a bad wagon as the one on ace. He managed to contribute in getting one of our probably most useful townies on the long term killed, and some of scum gladly helped. Seriously scum had nothing to do this fucking day, town is catabolizing itself. | ||
Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
March 21 2013 15:05 GMT
#2309
I fully agree with trancestorm. He said some things during the end of cycle that pinged my scumdar. Specifically with in regards to test subject. Gk is scum for sure. That's clear from the BH mason logs... D1 mason chat can't be that trusting Dyh.. Not sure. Havt spent much time looking into him. | ||
layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 21 2013 15:07 GMT
#2310
On March 22 2013 00:02 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On March 21 2013 23:54 layabout wrote: On March 21 2013 23:39 Mocsta wrote: On March 21 2013 23:37 layabout wrote: Mocsta you have 12 pages of filter from before you read the thread FFS stop playing like this!!! Excuse me. Where were u when the thread was at a critical point? U can attack me for a spammy filter whatever..but at least I was here when it mattered In bed asleep because i live in England and it was 2am-7am and you all thought it was a great time to dick on everything that happened when ppl were here. There is a reason days are 48 hours long. Also you were spamming when you hadn't even read the fucking thread. How in god's name are you playing when you have not read the fucking thread? And how can what you are saying be of value? It was rhetorical I knew where u were. Regardless u have been a non entity almost the entire game. I don't see how u can even want to contest that. And dude. Stop throwing stones from glass houses, cos.. Whats ya point here. We just had a mislynch, and when shit went down u weren't here. Where is your effort to figure out how we got to an ace lynch. Instead. What we get is u throwing shit at me. And for what purpose? How is this solving the game? If u think I'm scum.. Call me scum.. Say I'm spamming and prove I have added zero value. Otherwise, go and do some thing useful...hint.. Trying to discredit me does not count. YOUR SHITTING ON THE THREAD AND I AM SICK OF THE TASTE I don't care about discrediting you i care about you ruining the games i play in, you are not helping us find scum by playing so irresponsibly. + Show Spoiler + 40 posts a day cycle should NOT be a non-entity but this is a discussion that doesn't belong in this game | ||
Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
March 21 2013 15:12 GMT
#2311
I would gladly bomb u all over again layabout. Feel free to report me for spamming of u don't like what I'm doing. P.s. thnx for not bothering to refute anything I said. I already it was futile. Unhave no leg to stand on. Again. Either call me scum Or stop wasting my time by spamming the thread with this non sense. | ||
Vivax
21700 Posts
March 21 2013 15:17 GMT
#2312
I also don't like how he joined the wagons. So yeah, if scum isn't among these I will put up a dunce cap. BH/GK/TS/ZARE/COSMIC/DYH | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 21 2013 15:19 GMT
#2313
On March 21 2013 23:43 Mocsta wrote: WoS/zarepath Question. Geript. His filter states that he was a firm advocate of a ve lynch. And he even went out of his way to produce some reasons why. However, if u look at the final vote count. His vote went from from vote leader ve to ace, thus putting ve and ace in a tie breaker. I couldn't see any reference in his filter to suggest he was keen on an ace vote. 1. Do u agree with the above. 2. Both if u have played with geript before. Are u finding his posting to be what u expect of a town geript? Honestly Mocsta, I couldn't be assed to look into Geript right now when Wriggles and more obvious scum are going unpunished. I could vote him, Trancestorm, Kenpachi, glurio, GK, fuck you name it. I'm least sure of GK because I'm only sheeping on that from DP, and Kenpachi is just useless and needs to die. The other three I'm pretty damn sure of now. | ||
Vivax
21700 Posts
March 21 2013 15:22 GMT
#2314
Why didn't you pursue or question Trancestorm at all when he's been your scumread here? + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2013 23:34 zarepath wrote: Here's how I see things: TOWN Vivax - Too much effort into too awful a case. Puts way too much attention onto himself. DarthPunk - Too confident to not be town, and when under pressure was still confident. Pretty clean and open with what he thinks about whom. geript - One of few players who think I’m scum who have actually looked at my filters of previous games, ie, done work for their read. Glurio - Checks metas, bothered to defend me when thread sentiment was against me, unique and genuine look at WoS beginning of Night 1. Not a lot of content yet but all his content seems pretty pro-town. DoYouHas - Of all the people going after me, he is the only one to pull up my meta and look at each of the filters for evidence. He’s been the one willing to do the most work for a zarepath lynch when it could be very easy to just bandwagon onto it. Coagulation - Doesn't contribute a lot, but his thought process is clearly pro-town sciberbia - Consistent with his reads, willing to look at and filter-dive on other cases, is thinking forward-motion NULL kenpachi - I don’t see him being really productive in general, just reacts to The Thread and not actively going after particular reads. WoS - opening post seemed pretty scummy, but spent effort at least discussing the popular reads, going into my meta, etc. Potential scum slip puts him back in null territory to me Wade Fell (BH) - I had a scum read on him until I read his other QTs, which showed consistency with his thread decisions that I had questioned. I think it’s safe to let him continue masoning -- if he’s scum, he’ll be in trouble trying to keep it up now that he has to answer for each person he masons, and if town, well, it can’t hurt. I thought it was odd that he picked me, one of the townies with the least amount of town cred, to help him lynch his top scum read. But oh well. Hopeless1der - He read me as scum real quick, didn’t push it at all, came back to agree with others who picked up what he dropped off, and spent the rest of Day 1 criticizing other people’s reads and arguments. I thought that was a scum tell, but I can see how that’s null on a second look and after others have criticized my case. What I am wondering now has more to do with Ace, namely: why hasn’t he shot last night? And why wasn’t he concerned about being shot last night? There was no night post for him with a list of reads. Mocsta and Keirathi have been talking about people, but Ace is talking more about arguments. I am still suspicious of Hopeless/Ace but I am not as certain of their scumminess; I want to see what Ace contributes when he is actually in the swing of things. cosmicomics - votes for DP only after layabout literally asks him what he thinks about him. First time he mentions him, and then votes for him. But his other reads are only to say he doesn’t think people are scum, and his switch onto GM seems somewhat out-of-the-blue. Low contributor and I need to see more. goodkarma - I disliked how he began the game, but he hasn’t really shied from the limelight. BH is a lot more confident about him than I am, but his general activity is enough to keep him from being as strong a scum read as my actual scum reads. VisceraEyes - His tone has seemed fairly off, but he has poked and prodded in the right directions within his big filter. I don’t have a solid read on him yet but no reason to think he’s scum. Vet claim possibly legit, but I’ma wait until N2 results to solidify this read. sandroba - Was so certain of his first town reads, which seemed impossible. Mocsta is being annoying, and the last time he was annoying like this in a game with me he was scum. I am very curious as to his reads and how he pushes them today. RyuSuzaku - First post was a sketchy association case that didn’t seem to have much heart, just lots of suspicion; and wanted GM dead. Everything post GM’s lynch was him justifying his vote for him, no forward motion -- except for his final post, where he says VE and Test are his new suspects, both of which were fairly new/unique reads. I will wait to see how he pushes those reads and reacts to other cases today. TPS - I’m not convinced of BH's argument against him. TPS seems assertive and active, but he doesn't scream town to me, either. NULL-SCUM TestSubject - Said very little, and only about people everyone else was already talking about. layabout - Was all about DP and WoS, mostly DP, but in the end switched from DP to me without having ever said anything about me all game. Then later, this: Show nested quote + On March 19 2013 02:19 layabout wrote: vivax i really like your case on zarepath, particularly the way he calls greymist scum for not pushing him. Isn't that more or less what prom did last game? This is a softball toss for somebody else to be like “U R RIGHT HE IS SCUM.” SCUM TranceStorm Show nested quote + On March 18 2013 00:38 TranceStorm wrote: I have no reservations on a zarepath lynch. I have nothing to contribute on him beyond what others have already said. I think that DoYouHas is a stronger candidate however. This is all pending an explanation of the Vivax 'scumslip' though. That was his justification. He also built no real case on DoYouHas despite going after him, possibly the most pro-town-looking player. Mr. Wiggles Seems deathly afraid of posting reads. His only contributions have been to disagree with other people’s scum reads or arguments. A very scummy and “helpful” “Will you two cut it out? It’s just a game” in his latest post. His GM vote came from being ASKED about him, but his justifrication is filled with “per my earlier post” and “as I stated earlier,” as if he is more concerned with looking like he’s always been for a GM lynch than he is actually justifying the GM lynch. He said he didn’t want to post reads but I see no reason why not? | ||
Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
March 21 2013 15:24 GMT
#2315
Thnx for being honest. Funny u ,mention glurio cos before I believe it was u that asked me to stop commenting on him. Either way. G`nite | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 21 2013 15:26 GMT
#2316
On March 22 2013 00:24 Mocsta wrote: K WoS Thnx for being honest. Funny u ,mention glurio cos before I believe it was u that asked me to stop commenting on him. Either way. G`nite I asked oyu to stop commenting on him because it was dumb to try and introduce ANOTHER new lynch target when there were already 5 flying around. In the post I told you to shut up about him I said he's definitely scummy but we had bigger fish to fry. If you think we can convince people to lynch him for D3 by all means, but there are more threatening scum to lynch I guess? I don't know I've never thought about it this way...if you have a lurky scum and an active scum, which is better to lynch? I would think the active one, right? | ||
Vivax
21700 Posts
March 21 2013 15:29 GMT
#2317
On March 18 2013 00:38 TranceStorm wrote: I have no reservations on a zarepath lynch. I have nothing to contribute on him beyond what others have already said. I think that DoYouHas is a stronger candidate however. This is all pending an explanation of the Vivax 'scumslip' though. On March 19 2013 22:15 TranceStorm wrote: Hmm. Some thoughts. I'm inclined to trust Wade Hand. Like scib had said earlier, it would be much safer for a scum mason to simply a) not mason anyone or b) pretend to mason one of his teammates due to the flip of GM. As per his case on TPS, I've become more and more convinced after reading through TPS' justifications for voting for GM. It is interesting to note that TPS spends more time talking about how he thinks zarepath is scummy. Personally, I think that TPS 'let it play out' over the GM situation so that he couldn't be nailed over strongly leading the GM lynch as he tried to do with Coag. I'll vote for TPS right now. My opinion on DoYouHas has retracted somewhat. I don't think he's been 'attaching himself to arguments' as I had said earlier anymore. Also, Wiggo is still super-scummy in my eyes. His behavior during the GM lynch was really bizarre, but the single post I had highlighted earlier isn't sufficient to make me vote for him. I want to see his analysis today. On March 20 2013 00:04 TranceStorm wrote: I didn't vote for you though, and I didn't drop my case against DoYouHas. I just said that I would be willing to vote for you. I didn't have any unique reasons why; they had all been outlined beforehand by people like sciberia. If I were to switch my vote to you, I might have given a brief 2 liner about how lackluster your D1 posts seemed to be. Does anyone have a theory regarding these stances early in the game? FYI, his favourite candidates D2 were Wiggles, VE, Ace. No surprise. I'm kinda troubled whether I should think that DYH is scum or simply a town-aligned 6th scum player. I think I'll go with the latter. Can't get rid of the feeling zarepath and CC are scum anyway. | ||
layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 21 2013 15:33 GMT
#2318
http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Cultist http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Alignment-Changing_roles I know these sites work a bit differently to us especially epicmafia. I was pretty sure VE was town and if there are conversion mechanics in this game (which there should be) would it benefit him to come out like this at all? The mason logs suggest he could choose to be converted so whatever we are dealing with must be a bit different to the traditional cultist. If VE is 3rd party the only reliable way to kill him is the lynch so we need to come to a decision on him. | ||
Vivax
21700 Posts
March 21 2013 15:42 GMT
#2319
The first concern is to get rid of scum though. | ||
zarepath
United States1626 Posts
March 21 2013 15:44 GMT
#2320
@ Vivax: TranceStorm began defending himself after my read on him, and Mr. Wiggles did not, so I pushed Wiggles. I'll be taking another look at Trance today. @ Mocsta: I can't even remember what geript was like except that I think he was inactive lyncyhbait, but I might be mixing him up with glurio. I honestly don't recall. You brought up a good point and I'll check it out today | ||
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