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Northern Ireland23092 Posts
On March 05 2013 16:11 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:09 Wombat_NI wrote:On March 05 2013 16:06 Gamegene wrote:
nice to know that if you lose a couple games, people are allowed to shit all over your play, your character, your career and past accomplishments.
it's a good thing that koreans can't read what foreigners have to say. Lol, every thread, it's a joke. PL threads were the worst though. Those like me were excited to see the Kespa guys, the novelty, as we'd missed it in BW. But no, instead of having cool discussions and getting psyched up about a prestigious tourney, every thread is just bitching about EGTL, their managers, their players with 93% of it based on nothing other than conjecture Actually, the first few threads were all hype. Then the hype died.
The hype was there, but amongsts shitloads of smug 'I told you so's' from people who hadn't actually MADE any predictions, or put their rep on the line like the TL writers did.
Anyway, cool games. Interested to see if Maru can actually do anything in Code S of note, he has moments of great skill but he seems kinda shakey.
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On March 05 2013 16:15 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:11 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:09 Wombat_NI wrote:On March 05 2013 16:06 Gamegene wrote:
nice to know that if you lose a couple games, people are allowed to shit all over your play, your character, your career and past accomplishments.
it's a good thing that koreans can't read what foreigners have to say. Lol, every thread, it's a joke. PL threads were the worst though. Those like me were excited to see the Kespa guys, the novelty, as we'd missed it in BW. But no, instead of having cool discussions and getting psyched up about a prestigious tourney, every thread is just bitching about EGTL, their managers, their players with 93% of it based on nothing other than conjecture Actually, the first few threads were all hype. Then the hype died. The hype was there, but amongsts shitloads of smug 'I told you so's' from people who hadn't actually MADE any predictions, or put their rep on the line like the TL writers did. Anyway, cool games. Interested to see if Maru can actually do anything in Code S of note, he has moments of great skill but he seems kinda shakey.
Well, I thought Fionn was just joking with his predictions. And then I realized he was actually serious about them
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On March 05 2013 16:13 DidYuhim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:10 Dodgin wrote:On March 05 2013 16:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Maybe HerO just needs a break. 8 game losing streak has gotta be rough on him Fantasy was on a 8 game losing streak too, he even got benched in PL for a week. And then SKT went 4-0 against EG-TL.
Who hasn't? 
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On March 05 2013 16:07 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:06 Gamegene wrote:
nice to know that if you lose a couple games, people are allowed to shit all over your play, your character, your career and past accomplishments.
it's a good thing that koreans can't read what foreigners have to say. From what I hear the Korean fans are even harsher.
Korean fans and players are just as BM or more than foreign fans. They are complete assholes online in starcraft, LoL, dota every single game. They are no different online than we are. They bitch constantly about balance and about playstyles or anything at all while watching and while playing the game.
There isn't any difference in respect for korean fans vs foreign fans.
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On March 05 2013 16:15 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:11 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:09 Wombat_NI wrote:On March 05 2013 16:06 Gamegene wrote:
nice to know that if you lose a couple games, people are allowed to shit all over your play, your character, your career and past accomplishments.
it's a good thing that koreans can't read what foreigners have to say. Lol, every thread, it's a joke. PL threads were the worst though. Those like me were excited to see the Kespa guys, the novelty, as we'd missed it in BW. But no, instead of having cool discussions and getting psyched up about a prestigious tourney, every thread is just bitching about EGTL, their managers, their players with 93% of it based on nothing other than conjecture Actually, the first few threads were all hype. Then the hype died. The hype was there, but amongsts shitloads of smug 'I told you so's' from people who hadn't actually MADE any predictions, or put their rep on the line like the TL writers did. Anyway, cool games. Interested to see if Maru can actually do anything in Code S of note, he has moments of great skill but he seems kinda shakey.
I was predicting Fantasy and HerO to go Code S.
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United States97274 Posts
On March 05 2013 16:16 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:13 DidYuhim wrote:On March 05 2013 16:10 Dodgin wrote:On March 05 2013 16:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Maybe HerO just needs a break. 8 game losing streak has gotta be rough on him Fantasy was on a 8 game losing streak too, he even got benched in PL for a week. And then SKT went 4-0 against EG-TL. Who hasn't?
Team 8 somehow managed to lose this round xD when Jaehoon lost to PuMa
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On March 05 2013 16:14 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:11 samurai80 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:59 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:58 JJH777 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:52 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:50 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:On March 05 2013 15:43 Bagration wrote:On March 05 2013 15:42 DidYuhim wrote:On March 05 2013 15:41 Geos13 wrote:
They need to give a seed to Scarlett! Boo! No wildcards! You want to see her tears that bad? If Scarlett somehow manages a Code S seed, it would have definitely been a crazy year for her, going from NA unknown to Code S player within 12 months. There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far No foreigner did win GSL so far, but many didnt get annihilated, especially Jinro, Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. Aren't those all the foreigners that have been in GSL? And can we please use recent results for a change, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa haven't been in GSL for months. HuK's ro8 days are long past. Way more foreigners have tried the GSL they just always lost in the qualifiers or if they got a seed in the first or second round of Code A and then left Korea. Select, Ret, Haypro, TLO, Mana, Sen, Moonglade, Sheth, Sase, Fenix, Thorzain, sjow. Probably some more especially counting the qualifiers. All of those players got Code A or Code S seeds at some point. Thank god they don't do seeds anymore... Yeah, diversity is horrible -.- But what, seriously ? I've been of the belief that since GSL prides itself on being one of the two most prestigious tournaments in the world (with PL being the other), players who get into Code S have to actually earn their spot by going through the brackets.
TLO did great in GSL and only left cause of his wrist. Ret didn't do bad either, taking down the most cursed player in sc2 history IMO Cyrano. He pops up every now and then still to lose an embarrassing fairly high profile match.
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Northern Ireland23092 Posts
On March 05 2013 16:16 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:15 Wombat_NI wrote:On March 05 2013 16:11 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:09 Wombat_NI wrote:On March 05 2013 16:06 Gamegene wrote:
nice to know that if you lose a couple games, people are allowed to shit all over your play, your character, your career and past accomplishments.
it's a good thing that koreans can't read what foreigners have to say. Lol, every thread, it's a joke. PL threads were the worst though. Those like me were excited to see the Kespa guys, the novelty, as we'd missed it in BW. But no, instead of having cool discussions and getting psyched up about a prestigious tourney, every thread is just bitching about EGTL, their managers, their players with 93% of it based on nothing other than conjecture Actually, the first few threads were all hype. Then the hype died. The hype was there, but amongsts shitloads of smug 'I told you so's' from people who hadn't actually MADE any predictions, or put their rep on the line like the TL writers did. Anyway, cool games. Interested to see if Maru can actually do anything in Code S of note, he has moments of great skill but he seems kinda shakey. Well, I thought Fionn was just joking with his predictions. And then I realized he was actually serious about them
They made sense at the time, given that a hell of a lot of Kespa players were either unknown or mediocre, with quite a few bombing in the GSl, or being average at best with a few exceptions. The training regimes are of course well-known, but equally it wasn't ridicuous to take the Kespa work ethic as being there, but come to the conclusion that it hadn't yet started paying off.
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On March 05 2013 16:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Maybe HerO just needs a break. 8 game losing streak has gotta be rough on him
I suppose he should. Yet I still don't understand what he did so poorly in his play to deserve to be in that spot. Yesterday with Killer, it was fine, he played bad overall and made many huge mistakes. But with HerO it's a bit hard to accept all these loss, even as a fan.
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On March 05 2013 16:18 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:14 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:11 samurai80 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:59 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:58 JJH777 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:52 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:50 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:On March 05 2013 15:43 Bagration wrote:On March 05 2013 15:42 DidYuhim wrote:
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You want to see her tears that bad? If Scarlett somehow manages a Code S seed, it would have definitely been a crazy year for her, going from NA unknown to Code S player within 12 months. There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far No foreigner did win GSL so far, but many didnt get annihilated, especially Jinro, Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. Aren't those all the foreigners that have been in GSL? And can we please use recent results for a change, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa haven't been in GSL for months. HuK's ro8 days are long past. Way more foreigners have tried the GSL they just always lost in the qualifiers or if they got a seed in the first or second round of Code A and then left Korea. Select, Ret, Haypro, TLO, Mana, Sen, Moonglade, Sheth, Sase, Fenix, Thorzain, sjow. Probably some more especially counting the qualifiers. All of those players got Code A or Code S seeds at some point. Thank god they don't do seeds anymore... Yeah, diversity is horrible -.- But what, seriously ? I've been of the belief that since GSL prides itself on being one of the two most prestigious tournaments in the world (with PL being the other), players who get into Code S have to actually earn their spot by going through the brackets. TLO did great in GSL and only left cause of his wrist. Ret didn't do bad either, taking down the most cursed player in sc2 history IMO Cyrano. He pops up every now and then still to lose an embarrassing fairly high profile match.
When TLO won against Losira, everybody was like HYPE HYPE HYPE
and then he lost to some oGs terran and Killer i think
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United States97274 Posts
On March 05 2013 16:20 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:18 TheDougler wrote:On March 05 2013 16:14 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:11 samurai80 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:59 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:58 JJH777 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:52 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:50 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:On March 05 2013 15:43 Bagration wrote:
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If Scarlett somehow manages a Code S seed, it would have definitely been a crazy year for her, going from NA unknown to Code S player within 12 months. There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far No foreigner did win GSL so far, but many didnt get annihilated, especially Jinro, Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. Aren't those all the foreigners that have been in GSL? And can we please use recent results for a change, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa haven't been in GSL for months. HuK's ro8 days are long past. Way more foreigners have tried the GSL they just always lost in the qualifiers or if they got a seed in the first or second round of Code A and then left Korea. Select, Ret, Haypro, TLO, Mana, Sen, Moonglade, Sheth, Sase, Fenix, Thorzain, sjow. Probably some more especially counting the qualifiers. All of those players got Code A or Code S seeds at some point. Thank god they don't do seeds anymore... Yeah, diversity is horrible -.- But what, seriously ? I've been of the belief that since GSL prides itself on being one of the two most prestigious tournaments in the world (with PL being the other), players who get into Code S have to actually earn their spot by going through the brackets. TLO did great in GSL and only left cause of his wrist. Ret didn't do bad either, taking down the most cursed player in sc2 history IMO Cyrano. He pops up every now and then still to lose an embarrassing fairly high profile match. When TLO won against Losira, everybody was like HYPE HYPE HYPE and then he lost to some oGs terran and Killer i think
Hyperdub. and then everyone hated Hyperdub forever lol
On March 05 2013 16:21 Gamegene wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:20 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:18 TheDougler wrote:On March 05 2013 16:14 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:11 samurai80 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:59 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:58 JJH777 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:52 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:50 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:
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There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far No foreigner did win GSL so far, but many didnt get annihilated, especially Jinro, Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. Aren't those all the foreigners that have been in GSL? And can we please use recent results for a change, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa haven't been in GSL for months. HuK's ro8 days are long past. Way more foreigners have tried the GSL they just always lost in the qualifiers or if they got a seed in the first or second round of Code A and then left Korea. Select, Ret, Haypro, TLO, Mana, Sen, Moonglade, Sheth, Sase, Fenix, Thorzain, sjow. Probably some more especially counting the qualifiers. All of those players got Code A or Code S seeds at some point. Thank god they don't do seeds anymore... Yeah, diversity is horrible -.- But what, seriously ? I've been of the belief that since GSL prides itself on being one of the two most prestigious tournaments in the world (with PL being the other), players who get into Code S have to actually earn their spot by going through the brackets. TLO did great in GSL and only left cause of his wrist. Ret didn't do bad either, taking down the most cursed player in sc2 history IMO Cyrano. He pops up every now and then still to lose an embarrassing fairly high profile match. When TLO won against Losira, everybody was like HYPE HYPE HYPE and then he lost to some oGs terran and Killer i think Hyperdub. One of my most hated players.
see?
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On March 05 2013 16:20 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:18 TheDougler wrote:On March 05 2013 16:14 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:11 samurai80 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:59 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:58 JJH777 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:52 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:50 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:On March 05 2013 15:43 Bagration wrote:
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If Scarlett somehow manages a Code S seed, it would have definitely been a crazy year for her, going from NA unknown to Code S player within 12 months. There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far No foreigner did win GSL so far, but many didnt get annihilated, especially Jinro, Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. Aren't those all the foreigners that have been in GSL? And can we please use recent results for a change, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa haven't been in GSL for months. HuK's ro8 days are long past. Way more foreigners have tried the GSL they just always lost in the qualifiers or if they got a seed in the first or second round of Code A and then left Korea. Select, Ret, Haypro, TLO, Mana, Sen, Moonglade, Sheth, Sase, Fenix, Thorzain, sjow. Probably some more especially counting the qualifiers. All of those players got Code A or Code S seeds at some point. Thank god they don't do seeds anymore... Yeah, diversity is horrible -.- But what, seriously ? I've been of the belief that since GSL prides itself on being one of the two most prestigious tournaments in the world (with PL being the other), players who get into Code S have to actually earn their spot by going through the brackets. TLO did great in GSL and only left cause of his wrist. Ret didn't do bad either, taking down the most cursed player in sc2 history IMO Cyrano. He pops up every now and then still to lose an embarrassing fairly high profile match. When TLO won against Losira, everybody was like HYPE HYPE HYPE and then he lost to some oGs terran and Killer i think
Hyperdub. One of my most hated players.
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On March 05 2013 16:20 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:18 TheDougler wrote:On March 05 2013 16:14 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:11 samurai80 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:59 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:58 JJH777 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:52 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:50 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:On March 05 2013 15:43 Bagration wrote:
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If Scarlett somehow manages a Code S seed, it would have definitely been a crazy year for her, going from NA unknown to Code S player within 12 months. There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far No foreigner did win GSL so far, but many didnt get annihilated, especially Jinro, Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. Aren't those all the foreigners that have been in GSL? And can we please use recent results for a change, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa haven't been in GSL for months. HuK's ro8 days are long past. Way more foreigners have tried the GSL they just always lost in the qualifiers or if they got a seed in the first or second round of Code A and then left Korea. Select, Ret, Haypro, TLO, Mana, Sen, Moonglade, Sheth, Sase, Fenix, Thorzain, sjow. Probably some more especially counting the qualifiers. All of those players got Code A or Code S seeds at some point. Thank god they don't do seeds anymore... Yeah, diversity is horrible -.- But what, seriously ? I've been of the belief that since GSL prides itself on being one of the two most prestigious tournaments in the world (with PL being the other), players who get into Code S have to actually earn their spot by going through the brackets. TLO did great in GSL and only left cause of his wrist. Ret didn't do bad either, taking down the most cursed player in sc2 history IMO Cyrano. He pops up every now and then still to lose an embarrassing fairly high profile match. When TLO won against Losira, everybody was like HYPE HYPE HYPE and then he lost to some oGs terran and Killer i think
Hyperdub, and that was 2000 years ago :D
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Northern Ireland23092 Posts
On March 05 2013 16:19 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Maybe HerO just needs a break. 8 game losing streak has gotta be rough on him I suppose he should. Yet I still don't understand what he did so poorly in his play to deserve to be in that spot. Yesterday with Killer, it was fine, he played bad overall and made many huge mistakes. But with HerO it's a bit hard to accept all these loss, even as a fan.
Didn't see all the games granted. HerO plays a kind of high-risk, high-reward style a lot of the time, relying on his multitasking and whatnot more than other Protoss players. When it fails he still often looks 'good' but fragile, it's a natural consequence of the style. Gumiho is the best example, his multitasking is insane and glorious to watch, even when it fails you don't think 'Gumiho's a scrub'. At least if you're me!
Players like Killer are sooo boring and cookie cutter that I don't know, you just go 'meh' when they lose. Tbh I was surprised to see Killer in U+D given he had looked to be falling over for quite a while.
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United States97274 Posts
On March 05 2013 15:17 Orek wrote:
Make infestor = winfestor OP
Not make infestor = lolol he is so bad
For whatever reason, Nestea chooses the latter. I don't know why.
according to some interview, dont remember where it is, Nestea said a lot of the time he plans on going infestor builds and does them in practice, but when he's in the booth he said he is more comfortable going for mutas so he just does that
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On March 05 2013 16:21 eGoRama wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:20 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:18 TheDougler wrote:On March 05 2013 16:14 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:11 samurai80 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:59 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:58 JJH777 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:52 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:50 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:
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There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far No foreigner did win GSL so far, but many didnt get annihilated, especially Jinro, Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. Aren't those all the foreigners that have been in GSL? And can we please use recent results for a change, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa haven't been in GSL for months. HuK's ro8 days are long past. Way more foreigners have tried the GSL they just always lost in the qualifiers or if they got a seed in the first or second round of Code A and then left Korea. Select, Ret, Haypro, TLO, Mana, Sen, Moonglade, Sheth, Sase, Fenix, Thorzain, sjow. Probably some more especially counting the qualifiers. All of those players got Code A or Code S seeds at some point. Thank god they don't do seeds anymore... Yeah, diversity is horrible -.- But what, seriously ? I've been of the belief that since GSL prides itself on being one of the two most prestigious tournaments in the world (with PL being the other), players who get into Code S have to actually earn their spot by going through the brackets. TLO did great in GSL and only left cause of his wrist. Ret didn't do bad either, taking down the most cursed player in sc2 history IMO Cyrano. He pops up every now and then still to lose an embarrassing fairly high profile match. When TLO won against Losira, everybody was like HYPE HYPE HYPE and then he lost to some oGs terran and Killer i think Hyperdub, and that was 2000 years ago :D
Great match though, and the point (of foreigners relevant in GSL) still holds.
Oh also Thorazin didn't do THAT bad either really. Neither did mana.
Man I wish foreigners didn't forfeit after dropping to Code A so frequently though.
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On March 05 2013 16:27 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:21 eGoRama wrote:On March 05 2013 16:20 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:18 TheDougler wrote:On March 05 2013 16:14 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:11 samurai80 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:59 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:58 JJH777 wrote:On March 05 2013 15:52 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:50 00Visor wrote:
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No foreigner did win GSL so far, but many didnt get annihilated, especially Jinro, Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. Aren't those all the foreigners that have been in GSL? And can we please use recent results for a change, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa haven't been in GSL for months. HuK's ro8 days are long past. Way more foreigners have tried the GSL they just always lost in the qualifiers or if they got a seed in the first or second round of Code A and then left Korea. Select, Ret, Haypro, TLO, Mana, Sen, Moonglade, Sheth, Sase, Fenix, Thorzain, sjow. Probably some more especially counting the qualifiers. All of those players got Code A or Code S seeds at some point. Thank god they don't do seeds anymore... Yeah, diversity is horrible -.- But what, seriously ? I've been of the belief that since GSL prides itself on being one of the two most prestigious tournaments in the world (with PL being the other), players who get into Code S have to actually earn their spot by going through the brackets. TLO did great in GSL and only left cause of his wrist. Ret didn't do bad either, taking down the most cursed player in sc2 history IMO Cyrano. He pops up every now and then still to lose an embarrassing fairly high profile match. When TLO won against Losira, everybody was like HYPE HYPE HYPE and then he lost to some oGs terran and Killer i think Hyperdub, and that was 2000 years ago :D Great match though, and the point (of foreigners relevant in GSL) still holds. Oh also Thorazin didn't do THAT bad either really. Neither did mana. Man I wish foreigners didn't forfeit after dropping to Code A so frequently though.
I dont mind - if they want to play in the GSL - go there and play. Recieving seeds, then going last place in your group and dropping from GSL is not really nice addition.
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HerO is mentally done I am so sad watching him. He was crying before the beginning of that game I mean thats bad.
Honestly, we all should be rallying around him and cheer for HerO win or lose and keep his spirits up, or else where is he going to find the strength to continue, it is us who need to be his light and his brothers in TeamLiquid.
I am praying for you HerO please find strength wherever you can and stop crying I can't stand it anymore. T_T
Hate to say this but NO TEARS; ONLY DREAMS ok? Please! <3
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Soon enough, KeSPA, GSL will be yours.
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I want Keen and Fantasy but Maru isn't too bad so nice to see 2 Terran advance haha.
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