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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On January 26 2013 08:49 Stutters695 wrote: well everyone else has confirmed for starting today and you're obviously here so roll pms will go out soon and the day post will be up at 8pm est. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
Day 1 Day 1 has begun! You have 48 hours until the lynch. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
GLHF everyone  | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
- Have a clear, consolidated vote on Day 1 so you can more easily pressure and read mafia participation - Don't be lazy in your analysis, and take the effort to examine the people you're NOT certain are mafia, not just the ones you think you ARE certain about I'm going to a coworker's wedding tomorrow evening and then Sundays I'm barely available at all. So my Day 1 participation is not going to be great, all told; apologies in advance. Hopefully I'll be able to participate enough, and productively enough, to persuade I'm pro-town. It's typical of my meta that I start off slow for the first day or so and then pick up once the data starts rolling in. I don't find anything wrong with warbaby's post. I personally really dislike needless aggression, and I think that hurts the town environment far too often. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On January 26 2013 11:16 warbaby wrote: I'd like to get this flawless town victory started by suggesting some ideas to promote a healthy town atmosphere:
GLHF everyone I like your points warbaby, they're right on the spot of things we don't want to do. I would like one more to those: Don't get confirmation bias. Explore all possible options before voting, and make sure your vote is serious. In my opinion, a vote should not be used to get information about someone unless they have been called out for lack of activity before. A FoS (finger of suspicion) is sufficient enough when first pressuring someone for information. I'm all fine with pressure voting for someone after you've given them the FoS or some other sort of warning, but if you are going to vote, make sure you mean it. It will show the town that your vote means business, instead of trivial matters that could be solved without voting. That was really long, but you get the picture. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On January 26 2013 11:16 warbaby wrote:
Dunno, aggressive behaviour is important IMO so long as its not too confirmation biased blah blah. Gotta put pressure on scum, make em crack. Either way, I won't be around for the first lynch since I'm gonna be out of town at a concert, so I'll make sure to have a vote in before it comes to that. Currently, my plan is to lynch a lurker, but in a smaller 9-person game this might be less of an issue (not sure). GLHF | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
Acid~, your first post in XXXV was a lot more useful. On January 26 2013 14:31 Acid~ wrote: It's a fine line to walk, but I'd rather be too mean and lynch scum than too nice and lose. Sometimes being a "jerk" is the perfect way to extract information, because they way the person reacts can be a tell of their alignment. My original post said "being a jerk for no reason"; scumhunting is a good reason. Snoman already made this exact point. Is there a good reason you made this rather pointless post? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Either way, I expect substantially higher quality posts from Acid, and that particular one sounded a LOT like "hey look at me I'm getting in my post, hopefully I sound generically townie" from a scum perspective. Something about the post just sounds hollow. Eh, its not enough to make judgements at this stage. To be fair to acid, his methods were pretty aggressive (and rightly so) last game, so defending that method of play makes sense. Meanwhile: We need more posts overnight if I am to have any chance of making an informed vote before I disappear. I probably won't be able to post much later than 8-10 hours pre-lynch so posts and content PLEASE. There are only 9 people so it's pretty easy to see who is and isn't lurking. | ||
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Slayalot
Denmark15 Posts
On January 26 2013 11:16 warbaby wrote: I'd like to get this flawless town victory started by suggesting some ideas to promote a healthy town atmosphere:
I'm not sure what to write in these games yet. But as a few people have also said. The above "guidelines" from warbaby is a really good idea. Lurkers will most likely get my vote. And furthermore I think that writing nonsense to fill up the chat (really mean online trick btw) is just as bad as lurking, and I will be watching out for that aswell. | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 26 2013 15:03 warbaby wrote: You're both right that aggression is useful for scumhunting when applied logically. It's also useful for crapping up the thread and distracting attention away from scumbuddies. We can deal with that when/if it happens. Acid~, your first post in XXXV was a lot more useful. I also had four or five pages of thread to analyze, it's illogical to expect the same kind of post when there's not even half a page yet. My original post said "being a jerk for no reason"; scumhunting is a good reason. Snoman already made this exact point. Is there a good reason you made this rather pointless post? Why would you assume I automatically agree with Snoman, especially without knowing either of our alignments? | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On January 26 2013 20:59 Acid~ wrote: I also had four or five pages of thread to analyze, it's illogical to expect the same kind of post when there's not even half a page yet. Why didn't you wait until there were 5 pages to review in this game before posting, then? Nobody forced you to make a 2 sentence post that sounds like a scum trying to blend in. Your assertion here is appears reasonable, but in fact this is a lame excuse. On January 26 2013 20:59 Acid~ wrote: Why would you assume I automatically agree with Snoman, especially without knowing either of our alignments? I assumed you agreed with snoman because you literally made the same point as snoman, just worded differently. Snoman also said some more stuff, which I feel contributed to the thread. What I think about your alignment is irrelevant to whether you made a quality first post, so I interpret this as a strawman. I'm still willing to believe I'm misinterpreting your posts. Please explain how you were contributing to the thread or why you felt the need to make such an effort-lacking first post (breaking with your recent town meta). If you were literally just being lazy, and felt the need to post something, then say so. If you felt you actually did contribute something that hadn't been said already, then I'll just have to take your world for it. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
How do you feel about LAL, Acid? | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
Lots of old faces, ill definitely will try to be more active this time around. My stance to LAL is: that we should first try to lynch scumreads -> scummy lurkers -> lurkers. Is it possible to move the deadline to 8:00 KST? 10:00 KST is 2 AM here if my timezone converter didn't lie to me. Will be pretty hard for the europeans to be here i think. I'll be on a big birthday party later this evening so don't expect me to be active. Sunday evening i should have a lot of time on my hands though. Till then ill try my best to squeeze some playing time in!  | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
I also agree with Zarepath, to an extent. Acid's first post was not a big deal blatant scumslip or anything (I don't dispute his original point). I found Acid's second post was unsatisfactory, though, which casts even more doubt on him in my eyes. I'm really displeased with the level of activity so far. Every time zone has had a reasonable chance to post, game start time was not a surprise. There's no excuse to lurk. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
Skapunk Abenson AFKing (fitting name) These three need to start posting before I (and perhaps to a greater extent, we) write you off as not needed by the town. Lurkers don't help our cause, and if we can't find anyone scummy D1, I'd be totally down for LAL. | ||
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