I hope to find scum until then with a winning post of GG.
Marv is someone that needs to be looked at today.
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
I hope to find scum until then with a winning post of GG. Marv is someone that needs to be looked at today. | ||
Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
Djo, just so I know, are you even going to be reading the thread, will you be able to vote? | ||
Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 22 2012 08:29 Z-BosoN wrote: @Hapa Some questions regarding this post I recall from your filter. Show nested quote + On December 21 2012 05:09 Hapahauli wrote: On December 21 2012 05:01 Djodref wrote: Because of your attitude towards VE fakeclaim and jay during VE lynch. On December 18 2012 07:38 Hapahauli wrote: interesting. I'll have to think about whether it's true or not. If no one counterclaims, I could get behind a Jay lynch. His tunnel on Djo felt really forced all through today. I'm ready to trust VE and lynch Jay. On December 18 2012 08:08 Hapahauli wrote: On December 18 2012 08:05 thrawn2112 wrote: i dont like ve's claim, it seems too easy to pull off Well it is rather risky given he's one counter-claim away from an insta-lynch. I wouldn't dismiss his claim as an outright lie until I see some more from him. I'm really ready to trust VE, I'm just waiting so I can see what you guys decide On December 18 2012 08:15 Hapahauli wrote: On December 18 2012 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote: On December 18 2012 08:08 Hapahauli wrote: On December 18 2012 08:05 thrawn2112 wrote: i dont like ve's claim, it seems too easy to pull off Well it is rather risky given he's one counter-claim away from an insta-lynch. I wouldn't dismiss his claim as an outright lie until I see some more from him. scum already tried to claim vigi This is true. Also Djo brought up the point that VE never attempted to defend him (Djo) the entire day. I'm not sure if that's due to VE being afk or just lurking though. I really would like to believe this guy On December 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote: I can't figure out a player that I'd feel comfortable switching onto. Jay's reactions so far don't seem scummy. He's setting himself up to draw alot of attention to himself regardless of how VE flips. Even Z-Bo seems alright. ...and who else? Bluelightz? Seems like a coin-flip. Ok, look ! jay is pants on head. I don't want to lynch him anymore. He is going to look good when VE is gonna flip (red) I'm sorry if you are town, but this is how I interpret your posts at that time... Yeah so what? Quote #1: I'm clearly expressing reservations, and I'm not committed to either side. Also... I want to lynch... Jay? How does that make sense from a mafia perspective? Quote #2: I'm clearly not ready to trust VE as you claim. I said I'm not dismissing the claim, not that I want to trust him. Again, it's stupid in such a volatile spot to turn the blinders on in either way, and I'll be damned if you tunnel suspicion on me for having the correct attitude as a townie here. Quote #3: How in the fuck is that "I want to believe VE?" That's me expressing some very clear reservations about VE. Quote #4: Jay is "pants on head" - yes that's exactly what I thought at the time until looking through VE's filter (particularly his last scum-list post) showed me otherwise. What about my attitude there was unreasonable? Hell I took an opinion directly against everyone in the thread for what reason exactly? On #1, why is lynching jay nonsensical from a mafia perspective? I mean, sure, we all thought he was scum at the time, but regardless, I don't see what you mean there. Being a bus or being a mislynch, why did you reason it didn't make sense at that time? On #4, what exactly in VE's scumlist post made you think otherwise regarding jay's pants-on-head read? I remember you saying how jay was super-cordial with someone trying to lynch him or something like that, but can you be more specific on this? On #1 - I thought jay was going to flip mafia. Especially after his defense, I couldn't see him flipping town. My point there was that I (as "scum" hapa) wouldn't bus my scumbuddy like that. Clearly this goes out the window. On #4 - I think I was plenty specific: On December 18 2012 13:16 Hapahauli wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2012 07:56 VisceraEyes wrote: PRE-tldr for VIVAX ZBoson jaybrundage Hapahauli grush Bluelightz thrawn Vivax marv Djodref I just rediscovered this post. I hope this is not some massive WIFOM bomb planned by VE, but the interaction between VE and Jay makes absolutely no sense with this list. VE was super-cordial with Jay's attempts to save him. Jay is far too trusting of a guy who was trying to get him lynched. | ||
Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
Oh sure Hapa, no problem! Here is what I was referring to! On December 22 2012 08:29 Z-BosoN wrote: @Hapa Some questions regarding this post I recall from your filter. Show nested quote + On December 21 2012 05:09 Hapahauli wrote: On December 21 2012 05:01 Djodref wrote: Because of your attitude towards VE fakeclaim and jay during VE lynch. On December 18 2012 07:38 Hapahauli wrote: interesting. I'll have to think about whether it's true or not. If no one counterclaims, I could get behind a Jay lynch. His tunnel on Djo felt really forced all through today. I'm ready to trust VE and lynch Jay. On December 18 2012 08:08 Hapahauli wrote: On December 18 2012 08:05 thrawn2112 wrote: i dont like ve's claim, it seems too easy to pull off Well it is rather risky given he's one counter-claim away from an insta-lynch. I wouldn't dismiss his claim as an outright lie until I see some more from him. I'm really ready to trust VE, I'm just waiting so I can see what you guys decide On December 18 2012 08:15 Hapahauli wrote: On December 18 2012 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote: On December 18 2012 08:08 Hapahauli wrote: On December 18 2012 08:05 thrawn2112 wrote: i dont like ve's claim, it seems too easy to pull off Well it is rather risky given he's one counter-claim away from an insta-lynch. I wouldn't dismiss his claim as an outright lie until I see some more from him. scum already tried to claim vigi This is true. Also Djo brought up the point that VE never attempted to defend him (Djo) the entire day. I'm not sure if that's due to VE being afk or just lurking though. I really would like to believe this guy On December 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote: I can't figure out a player that I'd feel comfortable switching onto. Jay's reactions so far don't seem scummy. He's setting himself up to draw alot of attention to himself regardless of how VE flips. Even Z-Bo seems alright. ...and who else? Bluelightz? Seems like a coin-flip. Ok, look ! jay is pants on head. I don't want to lynch him anymore. He is going to look good when VE is gonna flip (red) I'm sorry if you are town, but this is how I interpret your posts at that time... Yeah so what? Quote #1: I'm clearly expressing reservations, and I'm not committed to either side. Also... I want to lynch... Jay? How does that make sense from a mafia perspective? Quote #2: I'm clearly not ready to trust VE as you claim. I said I'm not dismissing the claim, not that I want to trust him. Again, it's stupid in such a volatile spot to turn the blinders on in either way, and I'll be damned if you tunnel suspicion on me for having the correct attitude as a townie here. Quote #3: How in the fuck is that "I want to believe VE?" That's me expressing some very clear reservations about VE. Quote #4: Jay is "pants on head" - yes that's exactly what I thought at the time until looking through VE's filter (particularly his last scum-list post) showed me otherwise. What about my attitude there was unreasonable? Hell I took an opinion directly against everyone in the thread for what reason exactly? On #1, why is lynching jay nonsensical from a mafia perspective? I mean, sure, we all thought he was scum at the time, but regardless, I don't see what you mean there. Being a bus or being a mislynch, why did you reason it didn't make sense at that time? On #4, what exactly in VE's scumlist post made you think otherwise regarding jay's pants-on-head read? I remember you saying how jay was super-cordial with someone trying to lynch him or something like that, but can you be more specific on this? | ||
Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Anyway, my time right now needs to be spent reading filters rather than defending myself. With this I'll take my leave. | ||
Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
In #4, I'm interested in the passage you are referring to here: VE was super-cordial with Jay's attempts to save him. Jay is far too trusting of a guy who was trying to get him lynched. Where was VE super-cordial? I just want to know this part and try to work out your logic. | ||
Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 18 2012 09:34 VisceraEyes wrote: It's useless jay...thx though. <3 Town needs this. They need this to see just how wrong Palmar can be WHILE trying. People have this notion that he's infallible, that he's never wrong. This game will serve as an excellent example in later games, if nothing else. | ||
Djodref
France3332 Posts
GG BL GG Vivax lol at BL and jay being both town So, we are at MYLO, huh... | ||
Djodref
France3332 Posts
Am I forgetting someone ? I guess that Hapa as the most chances to flip scum in that list ##Vote Hapa | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 22 2012 12:57 Z-BosoN wrote: Tomorrow is my last day on a computer, so yea be active dudes :D I hope to find scum until then with a winning post of GG. Marv is someone that needs to be looked at today. I'll be back this evening to play properly (grmbl christmas shopping). Bluelightz's modkill is amazing for us. Given I'm alive at LYLO (??) I'll give my best interpretation for why. I am another Veteran. I didn't crumb because I thought it would be obvious when I got shot. I am assuming however that the mafia must have a Rolecop and investigated me at some stage - so double stacking me at any point in the last few days would mean that mafia would have needed an extra mislynch to win the game. Bluelightz's flip inherently makes me more suspicious of Z-Boson and Djodref. grush... I still think is town. Certainly it seems at least one of the scummers has been playing very well despite the collapse of his team otherwise. | ||
Djodref
France3332 Posts
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Djodref
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Z-BosoN
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 23 2012 05:47 Djodref wrote: I agree that BL modkill is amazing for us. But, marv, you didn't even mention Hapa, so do you mean that you have him as scum ? Just got in from dinner. I didn't mention Hapa because I'm struggling to see a team without him in it, unless it's you and Z-Boson. | ||
Djodref
France3332 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
This is one of the primary reasons I'm so suspicious of Hapahauli. I've asked him more than once about Bluelightz and talked about the townread that me/Palmar gave on him, to try to find out why he's so keen to disagree with us. There's some history here too, in Rock Band (where hapa was town, BL was town) I again cleared BL as town through his play, while Hapa was sure of him being SK. This game could be Hapa being equally 'paranoid' of Bluelightz as town, but the explanation that's more likely is that he was using BL as a front and as the mislynch scum needed. | ||
Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
##Vote Hapahauli So here's the deal I want to make with you guys. The self-vote is to motivate myself to find the last two scum-team members. Make of it what you will. I realize I haven't been as active in this game. So I'm going to make up for it tonight. As far as I'm concerned, it's my job right now to convince you who the other two scumteam members are. I'm not going to be defending myself. I'll be building cases. Place your votes on me, and it will be my job to convince you otherwise. | ||
Djodref
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
##Vote: Hapahauli | ||
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