EPThttp://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Gato
But yeah, the tent and crystal ball make no sense.
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
http://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Gato But yeah, the tent and crystal ball make no sense. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On November 30 2012 01:42 risk.nuke wrote: Syllogism's thought process. This role isn't a mafia role. And if this was a mafia role this is a very suboptimal way to play. But there is a crystal ball in the tent flavor so this is probably a huge ploy where mafia scum buddies goodkarma and risknuke are trying to sell themselves of as town. And I didn't know if inviting someone counted as a roleblockable action. But hey thanks for outing my name... there probably will be no consequences. It's an incredibly suboptimal way regardless of alignment and some of the things that were said by you were just mindboggling. It doesn't help that, of course, that I was suspicious of your play even before that so I'm interpreting everything through that prism. What kind of consequences do you expect there to be for outing a name of a minor character? You didn't even think it was important to keep it secret as you voluntarily divulged the name before anyone even had posted in the QT. We've had two major characters claim their names and neither of them has even been roleblocked yet. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
Greymist: Its the inside of a Tent! Its strangely dark and there appears to be a crystal ball on a table. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17706 Posts
Why GK, Keirathi, Syllo and Dieno. Why that order? What is it you're trying to accomplish in your QT? Why claim you can damage people in there and then only invite town reads? And while you're answering questions, answer the ones I have now posted twice already. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17706 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
I'll try to point out how I felt about Kita at various points, and what I took note of in his filter. So, I did like Kita in the beginning, which is obviously why I voted him. I had some misstrust on Syllo/Sandro, and kita looked like a good alternative. I was not worried that he was not very present on d1, as I remembered that he played very similarly in Aperture Mafia where he was town. So this was not alignement-indicative. I noted that he was the first to bring up name-claims, with the idea that certain characters would make better party leaders than others. + Show Spoiler + On November 21 2012 11:53 kitaman27 wrote: Something that I just thought of that we may be able to take advantage of later on are name claims. It seems unlikely that there are multiple versions of certain characters running around. For example, if we were to have a likely town character such as Lucca name claim, we could elect her as leader. This however is based on the assumption that the alignment in this game is tied to the alignment of the video game. Until this becomes clear, I wouldn't be confident in trying to abuse the setup like this. Also, we would have to worry about the mafia being given certain fake claims, but this is something that is less of a threat, considering the potential reward. We also have the option as town to enforce an additional party member selection vote. This limits the power of a single player, but it makes it easier for the mafia to sneak in one of their own in the 3rd of 4th slot. I think I'd rather put faith in the elected leader, to avoid the manipulation, assuming myself or my candidate of choice is elected. That could be scum motivated, but not necessarily. Acro replied against it, which made Kita clarify that he does not mean a mass claim. He never brought it up again, so he was not very dedicated to the idea. Pre-Edit: I just saw he did bring the idea back on d2 when he was explaining why he thought that the frog claim was so important and why he would have taken frog on the party. He then brought up two thoughts about Sandro and Marv that I shared. I felt similar about those topics, which made me trust him more. + Show Spoiler + On November 21 2012 21:42 kitaman27 wrote: There are quite a few people who claim to be voting for sandroba on the basis that they claim to be able to easily differentiate his scum play from his town play. The only reason I see this as the case is that he commonly gets lazy and stops caring or posting as mafia. However, that's simply due to personal choice. How many people here other than maybe syllo are confidant they can identify a scum sandro when he remains active? Having played with him in pypi (an election game), I know he is quite capable of fooling most people when there is something he wants. I'm quite puzzled by the fact that marv hasn't run for election. As being one of the most active players recently, I think he would be fairly confident at being able to gain support for himself. As town, I know I want to be the leader because that is the only way to directly increase our chances of success. marv however appears to want to avoid the spotlight and participate in an advising role or at least gauge the support he has. Could you explain this decision? Work time. I'll try to start identifying some town players when I get back if I'm confident enough. His Turkey-joke post was just that to me, a joke post. Specially with the following-up post I did not see any reason to take anything serious he wrote in there. The fact that he posted people who he did NOT want on his team (instead of the other way round as most others) obliged me. I had voiced my concerns about town read, and he actually took the reverse approach first. However, the party he proposed later was not really filled with people I wanted to see there, so I became unsure. However, I lack self confidence with my D1 reads, so I thought he might just know better. At some point later I switched my vote to Syllo, mainly because Kita seemed to have given up (he never answered my question regarding his team and was barely around in the thread, although he claimed that he had time now). From beginning D2 I had him als null read and wasn't following him closely anymore. What I felt strange (and what was mentioned by several people) was his behaviour around the guessing game. I would have expected him to push a target harder that he wants to have lynched so he could more reliably guess. But that did not happen, instead he was quite passive in that situation. His case on CaveJohnson was ok, the one on risk too. His case on Hopeless was a bit weak. What i realized when reading this part of his filter is that he picks only easy targets, so to say. However, again, that is not necessariliy alignement-indicative. After Nov. 25th, his activity has gone down considerably. I have the feeling that he is always taking the easy path in this game. But that's not necessarily scum. I don't see anything damning in his filter. There are situations where I get the feeling that he is really invested in the game (like most of D1), but other times it seems as if he does not care. I don't mind that he is not taking everything serious, although I do feel that if he would take the game a tiny bit more serious, people would not think he is scum. I currently doubt he is scum, but would I want him to be on the party? No, so no town read either, meaning he isNull to me. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
Today You also have the pleasure of voting for tomorrows party leader. There will be a special event tomorrow with 2 stages of in thread voting, thus the party leader and his party must be selected today! | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On November 30 2012 01:58 GreYMisT wrote: It was brought to my attention that once again I am forgetful Today You also have the pleasure of voting for tomorrows party leader. There will be a special event tomorrow with 2 stages of in thread voting, thus the party leader and his party must be selected today! this is the voting we're already doing. Right? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17706 Posts
On November 30 2012 01:58 GreYMisT wrote: It was brought to my attention that once again I am forgetful Today You also have the pleasure of voting for tomorrows party leader. There will be a special event tomorrow with 2 stages of in thread voting, thus the party leader and his party must be selected today! Is this real-life tomorrow or ingame tomorrow? The countdown seems to be ending tonight, which is the middle of the cycle... unless the cycle is suddenly cut short, of course. That would also give a reason for the countdown: to give us ample warning that there is something big set to happen and we don't know exactly when. Best to get your votes in sooner rather than later, just in case. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On November 30 2012 01:48 syllogism wrote: It's an incredibly suboptimal way regardless of alignment and some of the things that were said by you were just mindboggling. It doesn't help that, of course, that I was suspicious of your play even before that so I'm interpreting everything through that prism. What kind of consequences do you expect there to be for outing a name of a minor character? You didn't even think it was important to keep it secret as you voluntarily divulged the name before anyone even had posted in the QT. We've had two major characters claim their names and neither of them has even been roleblocked yet. I don't know this is a heavily themed greymist game. For all we know there is third party out there who's objective is to kill me or someone else and now knows it's not me. Then there is the general always a downside to nameclaiming to prevent people from trying to mass-claim. For all we know at any point in the game the mafia can wipe out everyone who's name they know. So now it's your turn. Please, tell me the benefits of nameclaim? | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On November 30 2012 02:00 Promethelax wrote: this is the voting we're already doing. Right? Mementoss mentioned about 2 pages back. I am just clarifying further. You are voting for both a lynch as well as a party leader for tomorrow's event. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
You guys are aware that if there is a pardoner, syllo will be lynched instead of Toad. Can I interest at least 2 more people for voting Goodkarma? Then I will switch my vote to him. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On November 30 2012 02:01 risk.nuke wrote: I don't know this is a heavily themed greymist game. For all we know there is third party out there who's objective is to kill me or someone else and now knows it's not me. Then there is the general always a downside to nameclaiming to prevent people from trying to mass-claim. For all we know at any point in the game the mafia can wipe out everyone who's name they know. So now it's your turn. Please, tell me the benefits of nameclaim? You ignored half of the post but that's okay, I will answer anyway. The name was required because it is suspicious when combined with the flavor provided in the QT. It could be completely meaningless, but it's still potentially evidence. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 30 2012 02:05 Promethelax wrote: when does the party leader submit his party? On November 30 2012 01:58 GreYMisT wrote: It was brought to my attention that once again I am forgetful Today You also have the pleasure of voting for tomorrows party leader. There will be a special event tomorrow with 2 stages of in thread voting, thus the party leader and his party must be selected today! This cycle. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On November 30 2012 01:55 Acrofales wrote: @risk: you're here and all you're doing is bitchfighting with syllo. It's pointless. Syllo has posted his thoughts about what your reasons are. They sound fake made-up bullshit reasons to me, but I'm getting them filtered through Syllo. How about YOU tell us your reasons for inviting all those players. Why GK, Keirathi, Syllo and Dieno. Why that order? What is it you're trying to accomplish in your QT? Why claim you can damage people in there and then only invite town reads? And while you're answering questions, answer the ones I have now posted twice already. I saw it as more valuable to try and create a town masoncircle. I adviced GK not to claim in the qt but he did it anyway. After that I only wanted to invite near-confirmed townies. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
oooh, reading comprehension. Thanks. I'm voting GK, don't want toad to decide the lynch by being pardoned. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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