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On November 29 2012 22:10 strongandbig wrote:
Also phagga, I'm still interested in your read on Kita. I think he's a tough player to read this game and your reasoning about him would help make me more certain about my read on you. If you just don't have time to go through his filter in depth because he's not a scum read and therefore not a priority, then I'm in no position to criticize you, but in that case I would still like a few words on what makes him a non-scumread.
Looking through his filter right now, will post in the next 40 minutes.
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So does anyone have any ideas about 1) The necessity for party leader & lynch and 2) the likelihood of four third parties in the game (Acro, Kita, CJ, Risk).
As it stands I still have a scum read on GK, his response to my case has been terrible. trying to make himself confirmed by talking about hitting Draz for 150 hp just doesn't prove anything. Draz is one of those targets that everyone wants dead. GK (and Risk) keep attackign the idea that GK is scum because of the failed mission and I think this is a pretty strong scum tell from Gk (I'm assuming he asked Risk to defend him, Syllo?) since this is an argument that literally no one has brought up as the reason for him to be scum, though some have mentioned in as an addendum.
I'll be voting Clarity (for party leader, obviously) he is a townie and he has my protection.
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Why do you think Drazerk is 3P?
Also, I have no idea what risk is at the moment.
- A cult leader (3P) makes sense. His choices seem strange, though. Why pick a high profile, high knowledge player like Syllo if your true intention is to sacrifice them to Cthulhu (or Lavos)?
- A scum makes sense. He has no need to include his scumbuddies in this QT, because he already has a QT with them. The main question I have here is whether this is feasible from a balance point of view and what the ultimate purpose of such a QT would be? Can he damage everybody in there or something?
- A town has some justification. He has two things he can do with his mason: communicate with fellow townies, or recruit and damage scum. He picked the former. The problem is that I feel the latter is a far more powerful option. Also, if Syllo is to be believed, his behaviour in the QT has been beyond peculiar. Also, his reason for picking Dieno makes no sense, because Dieno has already told us who he is. What was risk expecting Dieno to talk about "in secret"? Especially as the QT isn't modconfirmed townies.
@Dienosore and GK: do you find Syllo accurately represented earlier convos in the QT?
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On November 30 2012 01:06 phagga wrote:
Regarding Time: So far the party event was first, then came the time travel. If it is going to be that way, then the event will be in 65.000.000 BC. However, the countdown will probably end before this cycle, so let's see what happens there.
Regarding Lynch: Someone mentioned this earlier already: Should we put 3-4 votes on a second person we believe to be scum (I'd propose Goodkarma)? Reason is if Toad gets pardoned or something similar, the second in the vote is also a scum read of town. If noone else has any votes, Toad can mess with us with last minute votes, or it might be randomized. Both is not in our interest.
Regarding Party: We have no idea if we are in a good position or not, so let's not take any risk: The party should be from the five of Clarity, Oats, Keir, Syllo and Dieno.
##Lynch: Toadesstern
##Party Leader: Clarity_nl
I agree that we should place some votes on a second person for scum. Should we do something similar for the Party leader? Remember marv's choosing ability, there may be more where that came from. Clarity and Keir would be my choices to split on if we go down that path.
If we do vote a secondary lynch, who should be placing those votes? I think the 5 party-candidates you've identified are as good as any other players, and we all think they're town. It might help reduce hidden lynch mechanics screwing with us.
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Also all the party speculation: why not pick the exact same party of D1? It's a confirmed success.
##Lynch: Toadesstern
##Party Leader: Keirathi
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Mementoss' secrecy makes me worried about a scum ability to switch the targets of the two votes. However, that seems so overpowered that it's unlikely. Pardoner seems an option. However, I don't see much consensus in the thread over who is second on the lynch list.
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When I read the QT for the first time, my first impression of the conversations was that it was all an act by both parties although clearly more so by Risk. Now I'm leaning more towards just Risk. He says things like he is unsure whether his alleged roleblock prevented him from inviting Keirathi and that he was awaiting for modconfimation. If he was roleblocked and received a PM stating as much, how could he possibly believe that his mason recruit could have gone through anyway.
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I'm more confident that Z-BosoN flips scum than GK.
He would be my second choice, what do y'all think.
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On November 30 2012 01:26 Acrofales wrote:
Also all the party speculation: why not pick the exact same party of D1? It's a confirmed success.
##Lynch: Toadesstern
##Party Leader: Keirathi
Well, perhaps with a different party leader, but it depends on when the party leader has to decide who the party is.
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Acro: did you ask mementoss that as well? He hasn't replied to my inquiry yet.
I asked him if posts said in blue can be relied to be true and then elaborate as to why I would like to know.
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On November 30 2012 01:32 syllogism wrote:
When I read the QT for the first time, my first impression of the conversations was that it was all an act by both parties although clearly more so by Risk. Now I'm leaning more towards just Risk. He says things like he is unsure whether his alleged roleblock prevented him from inviting Keirathi and that he was awaiting for modconfimation. If he was roleblocked and received a PM stating as much, how could he possibly believe that his mason recruit could have gone through anyway.
would you post the qt logs so that the rest of us can see what you are seeing?
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EBWOP:
lol
On November 30 2012 01:33 Toadesstern wrote:
##lynch: Syllo
Party Leader: Toadesstern
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Toad and Greymist playing Dota:
[center[![[image loading]](http://i.imagebanana.com/img/avixri5j/bat.gif) [/center]
See how much I troll Greymist? Do you really want to lynch someone who's trolling the host?
+ Show Spoiler +No idea why the colors are fucked up  + Show Spoiler +Also forgot wether or not I already posted, so making sure I'm not getting modkilled :3
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I'm really glad you posted a gif without a spoiler.
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On November 30 2012 01:36 Toadesstern wrote:Toad and Greymist playing Dota:[center[ See how much I troll Greymist? Do you really want to lynch someone who's trolling the host? + Show Spoiler +No idea why the colors are fucked up + Show Spoiler +Also forgot wether or not I already posted, so making sure I'm not getting modkilled :3 [/center]
lol so much fail
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On November 30 2012 01:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm really glad you posted a gif without a spoiler.
opps
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Syllogism's thought process. This role isn't a mafia role. And if this was a mafia role this is a very suboptimal way to play. But there is a crystal ball in the tent flavor so this is probably a huge ploy where mafia scum buddies goodkarma and risknuke are trying to sell themselves of as town.
And I didn't know if inviting someone counted as a roleblockable action. But hey thanks for outing my name... there probably will be no consequences.
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On November 30 2012 01:34 syllogism wrote:
Acro: did you ask mementoss that as well? He hasn't replied to my inquiry yet.
I asked him if posts said in blue can be relied to be true and then elaborate as to why I would like to know.
I did not. His stating in large bold letters to not ask him why there are two votes at the same time made me think it would be pointless.
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Shall we spam this page off so that the game will load for you Clarity?
Also: we need a number 2 scum read for this lynch. I'm happy to park my vote on GK but if he is not the #2 read for everyone I can accept that as long as someone else who at least looks scummy to me is on the chopping block under Toad.
GK for not quite as scum as Toad is!
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