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Why do you think he's town iamperf? I see literally no reason to think this is marv's town play.
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On September 20 2012 04:22 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2012 04:09 austinmcc wrote:On September 20 2012 04:06 HiroPro wrote:
k, I'm switching to austin. His responses to me are trash.
##Unvote
##Vote austinmcc Gave you some differences between bureaucracy and here. Gave you the reason that I played like I did in bureaucracy. As to your questions about the prplhz/bluelightz question, is there ANY actual good explanation? I don't think there is. You can vote me because of that post, but you shouldn't be voting me based on my responses. That post sucked ass. It's not the sort of thing you can shine up and make pretty with an explanation. It's nitpicky, but ... there's seriously no good explanation there, so there's no non-trashy response. Your responses aren't scummy by themselves, but they do nothing to actually convince me that you're town. Even if I completely disregard the meta from bureaucracy, the way that you came back is still scummy. Your responses have just been the final part in that you say stuff like "I DO think my conduct this game looks scummier than that play.", which is completely useless. I don't know what a townie response to my point about prp/bz would be because it's incredibly hard for me to believe that a townie would lightly pick two candidates like that when they were actually building a case on someone else.
This is what I'm getting at. I don't know what a townie response would be either. So don't vote me BECAUSE of the response if no townie response exists.
That's it. Just didn't like the reasoning you gave in that vote post, because there's no option for a non-trash response.
The case on mementoss was built after that post though. The vote prplhz post was the first thing I wrote after sitting down, then went to go look back through some things. Mementoss case sprung out of rereading bluelightz, who had focused on mementoss for a bit but then switched away. Realized while rereading bluelightz that I didn't remember much of what mementoss had done. Read him, found that TOO obvious response scummy, then started case.
If I DO get lynched today, I'll note that bluelightz mementoss suspicions into unvote mementoss because of his response to an issue entirely unrelated to bluelightz case looks pretty wonky and gives me a bad vibe from bluelightz.
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Blazinghand
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On September 20 2012 04:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2012 04:21 Palmar wrote:
I don't even understand this game anymore.
Here's the deal. prplhz isn't scum. There was a legit concern earlier that he might be but anyone that still thinks he's scum has their heads faaar up their asses.
mementoss is probably not scum.
marv and austinmcc both have a good chance of being scum, but I feel considerably better about marv. It's also very strange how hard it is to get any kind of a train rolling against marv. I've already explained why this guy is the one that needs to hang today.
Can we consolidate there, please? well done for saying absolutely nothing. Stellar play right here.
I don't like that Palmar hasn't been in the thread much  he hasn't done as much work to support the Marv case as would be necessary to garner my vote. Maybe it's not even possible-- maybe marv is just town. Palm you've got nobody agreeing with you which could be like "oh scum is resisting it" but... really, as Ange said, the lynch that's being resisted is the prplhz lynch. We're close to a majority and close to the deadline and all these wagons have sprung up in the past 24ish hours and nobody wants to push him over the edge. This is much more resistance than a wagon that just can't get off the ground.
As I see it, prplhz is scum and austinmcc... is probably scum. Prplhz has more votes and is a better candidate so I'm not moving off him.
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On September 20 2012 04:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2012 04:21 Palmar wrote:
I don't even understand this game anymore.
Here's the deal. prplhz isn't scum. There was a legit concern earlier that he might be but anyone that still thinks he's scum has their heads faaar up their asses.
mementoss is probably not scum.
marv and austinmcc both have a good chance of being scum, but I feel considerably better about marv. It's also very strange how hard it is to get any kind of a train rolling against marv. I've already explained why this guy is the one that needs to hang today.
Can we consolidate there, please? well done for saying absolutely nothing. Stellar play right here.
For you, then Palmar:
1) still no explanation on why prplhz is town. "look he made a long post" is not an explanation
2) saying mementoss is probably not scum without giving any thoughts as to why either way is also completely useless
3) it's hard to get a train rolling because you're wrong and your case was bad, as pointed out by various people
happy?
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On September 20 2012 04:26 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2012 04:23 Ange777 wrote:@Iamperfection: Are you just completely in sheeping mode now?? On September 20 2012 03:45 iamperfection wrote:
I will follow the two guys I think are town.
## unvote
## vote austinmcc Bear in mind you yourself said the following: On September 19 2012 11:44 iamperfection wrote:
So my current view is your scum and that mkfuba is terrible town. So you'd rather sheep two players where you believe one of them to be a terrible player than vote on your own? And no, I'd rather lynch prplhz who still is my top scum read than Mementoss. Yes, he makes himself scummy but I am far more convinced by prplhz' being scum than Mementoss. It seems pretty reasonable to me I'm usable not unrobe when I think someone is town. So why wouldnt I.
What does this mean?
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On September 20 2012 04:26 iamperfection wrote:
It seems pretty reasonable to me I'm usable not unrobe when I think someone is town. So why wouldnt I.
I don't understand your sentence. You are usable not unrobe? What does it mean? I even tried checking the dictionary.
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sounds like some epic phone posting gone wrong
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Can someone please link me to the latest case against austin? If I remember correctly marv started the case but retracted part of it due to the recent improved posting of austin.
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Fuck it. I'm off for a bit.
I'll rather no-lynch than do a dumb lynch so see you guys later.
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no, I never retracted any of it. Read my or Hiro's filter for the most pertinent thoughts on austin.
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On September 20 2012 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Fuck it. I'm off for a bit.
I'll rather no-lynch than do a dumb lynch so see you guys later.
nice moves there
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@Palmar:
On September 20 2012 04:00 Ange777 wrote:Nonetheless I still think that the case Palmar made on marv is weak. + Show Spoiler +On September 19 2012 18:13 Palmar wrote:This is why marvellosity is scum: Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL? Possibly a joke, I wasn't in the game when this was written so I don't know how the mood was in the thread. The random lynch suggestion, while strange, bears no meaning to his alignment. This is important: When I joined the game marv had made exactly one post worth reading. It was a long-winded post but it had very little substance to it, at least for someone I would consider a good player. He basically rehashed the reasons why a case against hapahauli was bad (duh) and then proceeded to vote for a lurker. The point is marv was really, really not doing jack shit in the game until I actually came in and called him out on it. He seems to have really changed things up. He even changed his entire attitude to be more badass. If you don't believe me, read his filter before, and after this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16286762Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 01:35 marvellosity wrote:On September 19 2012 01:33 prplhz wrote:On September 19 2012 01:32 marvellosity wrote:
why do GK and Palmar look town to you, then? Well, goodkarma looks town because he was putting effort into his posts and because he was pushing the right agendas and because he replaced out (sorry, but town replaces out 10 times more than scum). Palmar is looking interested in this game and that's good enough for me for now. You will agree with me that HiroPro's case is not exactly overly convincing. No, it's not convincing, but I found his point about throwing a bunch of new candidates into an already divided town pretty decent. I disagree on GK for the reason I outlined earlier. What I take from this post is that marv for some reason has a problem with me not following whatever trends are already happening in town. The bad thing about replacing in is that you miss a ton of important reactional stuff, the good thing is that you start with a completely unbiased point of view. I decided to post as I read through what had already happened in the game. So, marv's problem is essentially that I had my own point of view. Did you think I wouldn't tell people what I thought about other people in the game? Should I just not call out my reads because they "mess with an already divided town"? It's a real problem when you're actively encouraging people to not read the thread objectively. Unless of course you're scum. Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 02:28 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar's play so far:
1. lol call 3 people scum for no reason
2. give out townreads to make self look townie (wow I can do this too, does this actually give town credit around here now? I should have known)
3. vote someone for no reason
na, piss off Palmar. There is a marked difference between giving townreads for the hell of it, and giving town reads because it's applicable to give townreads. You already know that I hate it when people do the stupid "don't give your town reads" shit. Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 05:34 marvellosity wrote:
also, I'll answer you on Palmar if you can give me a coherent scum motivation behind my blatant OMGUS
gogogo That's not how the game works, if it did you could just OMGUS every time and say "no scum would do that". I take your OMGUS as having almost nothing to do with your alignment, I take your attempt at using it to make you look like town based on that, as very, very indicative of you being scum. Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 05:55 Hapahauli wrote:On September 19 2012 05:52 marvellosity wrote:
I'm amazed you think weak sheeping from a seasoned player is a null tell, hapa. Seasoned players vote like that all the time, and I have yet to connect a mafia-mentality with prplhz. Weak sheeping from a seasoned player can absolutely be null. It's all got to do with how they sheep and why. Not the face-value of just sheeping. We need to kill marv today. Just for effect/emphasis ##Vote marvellosity I have already stated that I don't get the feeling that marv's posting has changed a lot after the Palmar/marv discussion. And claiming that marv was discouraging you from giving your scum reads is a huge stretch. All he asked for was an explanation for your reads, you are totally misrepresenting the facts! And by the way, I too am unsatisfied with the way you are presenting your reads. I have asked for explanations over and over again and you have been ignoring them over and over again. Would you mind to elaborate your thought process? Why is it that people are praising your play when all I have encountered is a very unhelpful Palmar not willing to share his reasonings? How is that town-friendly?
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On September 20 2012 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Fuck it. I'm off for a bit.
I'll rather no-lynch than do a dumb lynch so see you guys later.
Guess that proves the unhelpful part ...
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On September 20 2012 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
sounds like some epic phone posting gone wrong
You know me to well. I meant to say it is reasonable for me to follow my town reads because they are usually right
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Just for later reference, the Bluelightz stuff:
+ Show Spoiler +(1) Bluelightz case on mementoss: + Show Spoiler +On September 18 2012 20:55 Bluelightz wrote:First, I think I should outline my main scum suspicions for now: Mementoss
So, basically, I don't think he's contributing. Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 06:21 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 06:07 prplhz wrote:
hey guys
please no unnecessary bullshit it's perfectly possible to play the game without that and it only serves to make the game harder to read
there are a couple of people around i have no idea who is, can anybody explain to me who mkfuba07 is? well this is a lie already, what is it with people lieing on there first post? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874You hosted a game he was in. More MKFUBA games if you want + Show Spoiler + Hey, here's some games on X, cheers! I think you obviously couldn't search em up yourself! (Scummy because he's just pointing out the obvious things: Filters of past games). Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 06:07 Mementoss wrote:
I think day one should be discussing what da bands name is gunna be Clearly trolling is a fine way to start the game! (Read: Nope, it's bad because it's not helping to find scum and win) Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 06:34 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 06:28 prplhz wrote:
their*
So I am lying or what? I mean, I am not lying unless you think I am perfectly aware who mkfuba07 is yet claims not to be, is that the case?
Maybe you can actually explain to me who he is instead of coming up with a silly list that's readily available to me as well if I just go into his profile. I can do that on my own thank you very much. Thanks for the grammar lesson. Yes, I think if you hosted a game with the player was in it you would have an idea who he was. You asked about him clearly stating `there are a couple of people around i have no idea who is` in reference to MKfuba. Well, you sure made it seem like you were too lazy to find anything about him since you asked the thread about him. The only game I played with him was deathnote, he was active enough, but just seemed to sheep and not lead his own cases. Mostly a commentator. Comments on meta of people are clearly helping us to win the game by killing scum! (Nope.) Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 06:36 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 06:32 iamperfection wrote:
I randomly suggest a lynch of Marvelosity.
Your guys thoughts? Well you have no basis right now to think he``s scum, so how does this idea make any sense. Town wins by killing all the scum. Well, this post is somewhat helping, by pressurign iamP for post's, but the other half is what? pointing out the wincons, cheers guys! I totally didn't know that. (Haha, no.) Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 06:43 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 06:40 Hapahauli wrote:On September 18 2012 06:32 iamperfection wrote:
I randomly suggest a lynch of Marvelosity.
Your guys thoughts? Policy lynching one of the best town players day 1 =/= good idea. Like I'm all for policy lynching marv if he's alive past Night 3 (he's basically an auto N1/N2 NK for mafia if he's town), but that's about it. I propose a less-randomly decided lynch against iamperfection. Thoughts? These are the kinda thoughts you keep in your head. Mafia purposely keeps marv alive, for a totally WIFOM, end game cause of what you said. Explain why you think iamperfection is mafia because of that post. No random lynches. -First line: What the hell? -Second Line: Somewhat helpful by pointing out what mafia does with the WIFOM around marv, doesn't help much in finding scum though till late in the game. -Last line: This line is fine, pressures Hapa to post, the other statement is clear enough as well. Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 06:56 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 06:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey pudding-munchers stop arguing about that and read my case I read it. It seems like you played with him alot and can really differentiate between his scum and town. It's not the most for sure case of all time, but the post felt scummy to me as soon as I read it and even moreso when I realized he hosted a game with MKfuba in it. He's the scummiest player so far. Iamperfection seems like noobie, why would mafia out themselves like that, also I think he is bitter because of his history with marv. ##vote: prplhzBlazinghand what do you think of hapa immediately coming to prplhz defence? + Show Spoiler +On September 18 2012 06:35 Hapahauli wrote:Hai gais! Good to be back in a mini so I can actually keep track of people more closely =) Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 06:21 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 06:07 prplhz wrote:
hey guys
please no unnecessary bullshit it's perfectly possible to play the game without that and it only serves to make the game harder to read
there are a couple of people around i have no idea who is, can anybody explain to me who mkfuba07 is? well this is a lie already, what is it with people lieing on there first post? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874You hosted a game he was in. More MKFUBA games if you want + Show Spoiler + Prplhz isn't exactly the most attentive host... I was in that game, and he basically forgot to make the last nightpost for a couple of hours. I wouldn't expect him to remember half the players in that game tbh =P Also what do you think of this clear contradiction from prplhz: + Show Spoiler +On September 18 2012 06:07 prplhz wrote:
hey guys
please no unnecessary bullshit it's perfectly possible to play the game without that and it only serves to make the game harder to read
there are a couple of people around i have no idea who is, can anybody explain to me who mkfuba07 is? On September 18 2012 06:08 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 06:07 Mementoss wrote:
I think day one should be discussing what da bands name is gunna be name my band ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8f6HH.png) *Agrees with someone* *Tries to make connections with someone* *Points out contradiction which he doesn't explain though it is clear* Okay, this post mementoss is trying to find scum, but what is his objective by making a connection to Hapa?! (He's trying to possibly direct pressure off prplhz to Hapa, and confusing the lynch target for today) Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 07:01 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 06:55 austinmcc wrote:On September 18 2012 06:50 Hapahauli wrote:
If mafia would like to keep hypothetical townie-marv alive to the endgame because of my "policy lynch," then awesome! Mission accomplished! Though in all seriousness, I've read through quite a few of his recent games. He never lives as town past N3 (barring Mad Men Mafia where he was a replacement) in his recent games. If he's alive a long time, there's a very high chance (IMO basically guaranteed chance) of him flipping red.
<3 everyone at all, but you need to look further. He's generally not being killed off for supersexy scumhunting, but because he comes off as very townie and is generating a lot of discussion/activity from others. His early reads, although I haven't read recent games, are not generally a big threat to mafia.
On September 18 2012 06:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey pudding-munchers stop arguing about that and read my case I don't know how anyone can munch on pudding. I DO kind of like that observation. It feels almost TOO obvious but...man it's kind of damning. TOO obvious, as in more obvious than Mattchew in LVII? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361826¤tpage=14#261Nothing, can be TOO obvious. Thats like saying you don't think someone is scum, because there TOO scummy. Stop waffling, either you think its scummy or you think its not. Don't say things like "kind of like" and "TOO obvious but damning", your all over the place bro. Denies the possibility of someone being town. Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 07:12 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 07:07 Blazinghand wrote:On September 18 2012 07:04 Hapahauli wrote:
... or it's not obvious at all, and it's a typical bad D1 case making insane meta connections with barely any samplesize?
If you're pressuring him or whatever, cool, but the case is in no way "damning" or "TOO obvious." In fact, I'd expect scum to be the people most willing to be jumping on BH's case without so much as a thought. Namely austinmcc and mementoss I literally sampled every game he's played in the last 3 months. If you think he's so damn town either argue from this dataset, or increase it, or present another case. I do, however, agree with you that scum may try to bus him. Dudes jumping on his case without explanations as townies are A) letting scum do the same thing and skate by and B) setting themselves up for mislynches. If you have a reason to be for or against his lynch, STATE IT. As town you should have no reason to fear thinking openly and logically. Hapa is right (on this particular issue). I did explain it, I found his first post scummy and your case was just some icing on the scum. It's literally an hour in the game, there is no such thing as voting too early. If anything it's going to generate more discussion that can be looked into more later. But I agree on austinmcc being hard to tell what hes getting at as I pointed out, which seems scummy as he usually is very articulate in his posts and has a clear meaning for posting them. Talks about someone while inserting a subtle finger onto austinmcc (Hey I think X is scum, but why not lynch Y instead?) Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 08:02 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 07:46 Hapahauli wrote:Alas! Austinmcc is at work so we won't be hearing from him for a while. One other post did catch my eye though: On September 18 2012 07:12 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 07:07 Blazinghand wrote:On September 18 2012 07:04 Hapahauli wrote:
... or it's not obvious at all, and it's a typical bad D1 case making insane meta connections with barely any samplesize?
If you're pressuring him or whatever, cool, but the case is in no way "damning" or "TOO obvious." In fact, I'd expect scum to be the people most willing to be jumping on BH's case without so much as a thought. Namely austinmcc and mementoss I literally sampled every game he's played in the last 3 months. If you think he's so damn town either argue from this dataset, or increase it, or present another case. I do, however, agree with you that scum may try to bus him. Dudes jumping on his case without explanations as townies are A) letting scum do the same thing and skate by and B) setting themselves up for mislynches. If you have a reason to be for or against his lynch, STATE IT. As town you should have no reason to fear thinking openly and logically. Hapa is right (on this particular issue). I did explain it, I found his first post scummy and your case was just some icing on the scum. 1 It's literally an hour in the game, there is no such thing as voting too early. 2 If anything it's going to generate more discussion that can be looked into more later. 3 But I agree on austinmcc being hard to tell what hes getting at as I pointed out, which seems scummy as he usually is very articulate in his posts and has a clear meaning for posting them. 4 Holy wishy-washy post batman! Let's follow the logic: 1) First post is scummy and case makes prplhz scummier! 2) No such thing as voting too early! (errr... where did that come from? making excuses already?) 3) But eh... it will generate discussion and we'll look more into it later. (oh? thought prplhz was very scummy to you? awfully passive for such a strong read on him) 4) Holy freggin wishy-washy opinion on austinmcc. 1) Yeah first post was scummy and it fits the meta analysis aka best case atm. How is accusing people scummy? 2) I said no such thing as voting too early is because a lot of people think they have to wait till last minute to vote especially on day 1, and usually a bad consolidation happens. Voting earlier will just bring up more cases throughout the day. 3) Nothing to do with one another. 4) How is calling someone scummy wishy washy. I don't follow your logic. But I guess it's your thing to jump on me day 1s lol. Defend's himself, this is fine, as he is trying to prove he is town and indeed, not scum. Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 09:36 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you. The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1. Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game.On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL? I say we respect his wishes. ## Vote Marvelosity Well, that means it isn't random because it was pre-meditated and thought out. Sooo, yeah. Point's out something on iamP's reason's on marv (subtlely defending him?) Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 09:39 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 09:37 iamperfection wrote:On September 18 2012 09:36 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you. The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1. Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game.On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL? I say we respect his wishes. ## Vote Marvelosity Well, that means it isn't random because it was pre-meditated and thought out. Sooo, yeah. Believe it or not it did randomly come out as marv. oh I thought your meant you told marv you would be voting for him specifically in the next game. acknowledges failure in understand iamP's reason's on marv, doesn't help find scum any how! Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 09:55 Mementoss wrote:On September 18 2012 09:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Well tbh, you could make that entire chart red - I lynched goodkarma in one game because I thought his play was "too clean" =P
But back to iamperfection, I'm definitely leaning scummy to him for now. I can't yet discount him just being plain pissed that you voted for him (a townie OMGUS type thing), but the sudden severity of it all is just really strange. Answer this, why would scum make their first post that? It obviously wouldn't do anything towards getting Marv lynched. It would only bring negative attention towards himself. Direct's more pressure on Hapa, So, now with this last quote I leave you with this question, Who is your main scum target memen? You voted prplhz, inserted subtle fingers on austinmcc, and is pressuring Hapa, who do you think is scum actually? Oh, and ##Vote: Mementoss (2) Ange asks why Bluelightz is voting Mementoss over prplhz: + Show Spoiler +On September 18 2012 22:36 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 22:01 Ange777 wrote:@prplhz: On September 18 2012 20:33 prplhz wrote:
Disclaimer: I don't read any analysis that refer to the "Zephirdd Rule" also known as the "Kenpachi Rule Extended" because I think it's bullshit.
Anyway, HapaHauli is playing active and townie and I have no interest in lynching him today. Ange777 is looking terrible though.
@Ange777 Have you been scum at any point and can you direct me to one of those games?
List of people who suck: Bluelightz, marvellosity. What makes you think my play is terrible? And why does thinking the Kenpachi/Zephirdd Rule is bullshit entitle you to just ignore cases? Just because someone posts bullshit does not mean that it can't help you uncover scum. Again I don't see any kind of scum hunting from you. Scum? + Show Spoiler +In my first game ever I rolled scum: Newbie XII. @Bluelightz: What makes you think that Mementoss is more scummy than prplhz? Your biggest concern seems to be that he has many different scum reads but that does not mean that he is not contributing. In contrary it is better than prplhz's filter who has not backed up his suspicions with an explanation at all. Haven't read on him yet, and when I read the thread once I came back from school he didn't stick out, I'll get to reading him now and adjust my reads accordingly. (3) Bluelightz asks questions about what Mementoss is doing at that time in the thread, while saying he finds prplhz scummy but not giving more than general reasoning: + Show Spoiler +On September 18 2012 22:57 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 22:40 Mementoss wrote:
@Bluelightz case
I understand you just went through all my filter, and basically resaid the things I posted. I don't see how it makes me scum, and adding SCUM! at the end doesn't make it make me scummy lol. In the future when making a case, you should outline how the quotes make the person scum and not re-iterate what the post says.
Can't say much more now since I'm at work. Why do you have to point fingers on everyone and your now pushing Hapa but voting prplhz? On September 18 2012 23:12 Bluelightz wrote:
Hmm, prplhz seems even more useless then mementoss, he has declared his stances on some people, and as you said, some unexplained reads. On September 19 2012 00:07 Bluelightz wrote:
Memen: Aren't you just deflecting pressure onto mkfuba? If you want to answer like that at least explain to me why it's the same, oh and answer my question. (4) Mementoss responds to Bluelightz case and question: + Show Spoiler +On September 18 2012 22:40 Mementoss wrote:
@Bluelightz case
I understand you just went through all my filter, and basically resaid the things I posted. I don't see how it makes me scum, and adding SCUM! at the end doesn't make it make me scummy lol. In the future when making a case, you should outline how the quotes make the person scum and not re-iterate what the post says.
Can't say much more now since I'm at work. On September 18 2012 23:14 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 22:57 Bluelightz wrote:On September 18 2012 22:40 Mementoss wrote:
@Bluelightz case
I understand you just went through all my filter, and basically resaid the things I posted. I don't see how it makes me scum, and adding SCUM! at the end doesn't make it make me scummy lol. In the future when making a case, you should outline how the quotes make the person scum and not re-iterate what the post says.
Can't say much more now since I'm at work. Why do you have to point fingers on everyone and your now pushing Hapa but voting prplhz? If you want to know my best scum read, check who I'm voting, that will be it. I'm not pushing Hapa, I'm asking him to explain his reasoning more. Don't purposely misinterpret me, don't you see how far that got Zephridd with his case on Hapa? I'm allowed to pressure other players while voting another player. There is more than 1 scum in this game ya know. I would say the only other person I remotely pressured so far would be austinmcc's scummy indecisiveness. On September 19 2012 00:26 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 00:07 Bluelightz wrote:
Memen: Aren't you just deflecting pressure onto mkfuba? If you want to answer like that at least explain to me why it's the same, oh and answer my question. Read the thread I answered your questions. And please take off scum shaded glasses everytime you talk to me, I'm not deflecting pressure onto mkfuba, I'm getting verification from Marv, why he is biased towards one lurker over the other. RESPONSE TO NON-BLUELIGHTZ STUFF SNIPPED (5) Bluelightz response: + Show Spoiler +On September 19 2012 00:55 Bluelightz wrote:
Ah, Memen, I see. Good explanation.
##Unvote: Mementoss
##Vote: prplhz
If he doesn't step up his contributions (so do I), I think I'll keep my vote on him. I'll go into more detail on this tomorrow as I have to sleep. mementoss never really addresses Bluelightz' case. Just dislikes it as a whole, doesn't find any of what Bluelightz found scummy to be scummy. mementoss answers a follow-up question that Bluelightz had. Bluelightz asked this question without responding to mementoss's wholesale dismissal of his case. Bluelightz accepts that answer, unvotes, votes prplhz without giving much/any reasoning until today (there's a small bit in his response to Ange but it's generalized comments and you don't see any bluelightz-specific thoughts) Bluelightz then says today, at the end of his prplhz post: Basically that's why and I'll be happy to answer any questions/ give opinions on anyone. Noticeably hasn't updated his read on mementoss. We're not even sure if bluelightz finds mementoss scummy anymore, as the unvote was NOT related to a refutation of the case, so bluelightz should still be standing by his case. He doesn't drop in to say anything about mementoss at all, despite his initial target picking up SOME steam (yes yes, I know he's not leading in votes or anything) I do not like this interaction at all.
Burying it in spoilers, don't want to push bluelightz today, but I really, really dislike that interaction. If I end up dying, someone please dig this up.
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On September 20 2012 04:47 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2012 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
sounds like some epic phone posting gone wrong You know me to well. I meant to say it is reasonable for me to follow my town reads because they are usually right
So you are not voting austin because you think he is scummy but because you hope that your town reads found scum?
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On September 20 2012 04:47 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2012 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
sounds like some epic phone posting gone wrong You know me to well. I meant to say it is reasonable for me to follow my town reads because they are usually right
On September 19 2012 11:44 iamperfection wrote:
i only like to give town reads when i think it will prevent a mis lynch otherwise its pointless in my eyes.
On September 19 2012 11:44 iamperfection wrote:
So my current view is your [Zephirdd] scum and that mkfuba is terrible town.
On September 20 2012 04:47 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2012 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
sounds like some epic phone posting gone wrong You know me to well. I meant to say it is reasonable for me to follow my town reads because they are usually right
I don't like to give town reads.
I think x is a terrible townie.
It is reasonable for me to follow my town reads and sheep my vote.
DANGER! DANGER! DOES NOT COMPUTE. DOES NOT COMPUTE.
You're giving out townreads. You're sheeping someone that you have a town read on but think is "terrible." This seems like a remarkably bad vote.
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Official vote count incoming momentarily
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V-V-V-V-VOTE COUNT:
austinmcc ( 4 ) HiroPro, iamperfection, Marvellosity, mkfuba07
marvellosity ( 2 ) Palmar, prplhz
Mementoss ( 2 ) austinmcc, Hapahauli,
prplhz ( 5 ) Ange777, blazinghand, bluelightz, Mementoss, Zephirdd
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
Presently, no one is set to be lynched! 1 hours remain in Day 1 !
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