Rockband Mini Mafia - Page 31

On September 20 2012 05:31 marvellosity wrote:
Do you have nothing to say about my play since you committed to your vote on me, prplhz?

On September 20 2012 04:47 iamperfection wrote:

You know me to well. I meant to say it is reasonable for me to follow my town reads because they are usually right

On September 18 2012 06:55 austinmcc wrote:


I don't know how anyone can munch on pudding.

I DO kind of like that observation. It feels almost TOO obvious but...man it's kind of damning.

On September 18 2012 07:16 austinmcc wrote:


Elaboration on the second half - Pudding is soft. Munching feels like it requires chewing, crunching. Can't do that with pudding. As to the obvious bit, obvious is the wrong word. I like...neat observations like that. It says something, unsure what, about you that you could pull out the starts to prplhz's game just like POOF. Like, I key in on the initial question more than the actual scummy stuff, because there's a chance that prplhz doesn't realize he's started scum games like that. But ... he has to, right? I gotta leave work, but the thought process is convoluted here.

On September 18 2012 08:03 austinmcc wrote:
It's not that it's too scummy to be town. Because the part of your post that I key in on is that prplhz, in two other scum games, and in none of the games he's played as town (out of what you reference), opens in a similar manner.

I think you are stretching when you say that the questions are scummy. Yes he can go look the guy up. Yes, he might ought to at least remember that the guy played in a game he hosted. But it's not like...asking a question about who someone is is scummy on its face. There's no scumhunting heuristic for "opens games asking questions about a particular player." It MAY be scummy as applied to prplhz, but it's not like every player who opens like that is probably scum.

So then . . . working off that. If it's not scummy on its face, but might be scummy to prplhz, why? There's no objective pushed there, it's not like starting off a game with that post helps a mafia objective. If prplhz is scum and happens to start all his scum games this way, it's just something he does without knowing it. There's no objective pushed.

Then finally, if starting games that way as scum is just something prplhz does without knowing it, not to push an objective, then . . . it's almost null? Not getting there in the same way "small sample size" gets there. The train of thought is...

(1) This is a thing that prplhz has done in scum games
(2) This is a thing that does not further mafia objectives, or actively DO anything really
(3) Therefore, it's likely he's just doing it subconsciously
(4) If he's doing it subconsciously, then it's not really a tell.

Could argue that he only does it subconsciously as scum, but then you get the sample size discussion and there's no real proof either way.

So obvious was really the wrong word choice, when I fully go through this.

On September 20 2012 05:14 iamperfection wrote:
Raise your hand if you are here

On September 20 2012 04:51 Ange777 wrote:


So you are not voting austin because you think he is scummy but because you hope that your town reads found scum?

On September 19 2012 22:39 marvellosity wrote:
austin: yeah, I think I most of all want to lynch austin. Some of it's gonna be a rehash, but it's important for the whole thing. The reason people jumped on austin in the first place:



Pretty much generally agreed that this was scummy, so won't delve too much. Where shit starts to diverge is on the response, which people read as townie. There's important time issues to look at. BlazingHand first pushes him to elaborate on it, and we get this as a response:



Pudding blabla not satisfactory at all. His 'townie' explanation that follows only comes after me, Hapa, and BH apply further considerable pressure.



It's not a bad explanation as it goes, and I can see why people viewed it as townie. But the fact is that it only came after his previous, poor explanation. In other words, he had to give a good explanation because he knew a large part of town was hounding him for it. In this context, I believe it loses some of its 'townieness'. I bold the final line as well for a reason. Obvious was the wrong word choice, eh? Look at how austin usually posts - longwinded, carefully thought out. Yet in this instance he'd thrown out his 'obvious' and 'too damning'. It looks like austin is justifying his scummy words after the fact.

austin has a few posts subsequently, but they are all focused on his own defence rather than any other scumhunting. Why is he so worried about how others view his defence? Why is he only talking about his own defence rather than being proactive elsewhere? Because he's worried that he needs to appear as town.

After these posts, austin has been markedly absent from any of the considerable goings-on in this thread. We don't have an opinion on anyone or anything, except his own defence. His play is marked by being worried by how he appears, rather than finding scum.

##Vote: austinmcc