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marvellosity
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Especially after seeing this post, him making multiple comments on players before his main suspicion seems to be his style. I think his post is well thought out, and we should be looking at some of the people on his wagon, as well as BMB, given how little attention he's been getting. It fells like the mementoss cases are a counter-wagon to BMB. (Someone with knowledge of mementoss's meta correct me if I'm wrong). | ||
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Hapahauli
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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Hapahauli
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
Mr Zentor (1) - Hapahauli (2) - Risen, BlackMamba24 Hopeless1der (0) - BlackMamba24 (2) - Hapahauli, Marvellosity Mementoss (3) - HiroPro, ghost_403, mkfuba07 Node (1) - Shady Sands Palmar (1) - Mr Zentor Not Voting: SolarSail, Palmar, Node, Strongandbig, hopeless1der. Currently, Mementoss is set to be lynched. Deadline is set at 21:30 CDT (-05:00). | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
I'm going to give Shady the benefit of the doubt here and say that he's just Bad. To start off with, I can't tell whether he just didn't read the statement properly, or whether he was trying to misrepresent what mamba was saying (in the case of one, he's really bad, in the case of two, he's just bad. See where I'm going with this? This isn't American Politics. People are going to read what you're saying and "lying" about what someone means is going to get caught by someone (me!). Now Hopeless is a town player in Shady's eyes and Hapa gets the good ole FoS for calling Hopeless out. Why is calling someone out for saying something stupid grounds for an FoS? Hopeless could CLAIM that what he did was simply meant to generate discussion but I tend to only believe such claims from people I've seen do it before. Regardless, Hopeless didn't claim that, and you pretty much FoS'd someone for calling out someone who asked to be told when he was lurking. It's too WIFOM to discuss what Hopeless was trying to do here, but it isn't WIFOM to say that calling Hopeless out for doing something stupid isn't something worthy of an FoS. Also, how do you justify your feelings that Hopeless is towny from what he's written? You use a WIFOMy argument. Sure, that might be all you have, and just saying that is fine. However, you used that to back up your suspicions of another player, which is bad. Next up we have your "defense" of lynching lurkers over liars. This is really bad. Defense is in quotes because I don't think you ever really come out and say we should lynch lurkers over liars, but the implication sure is there. And how do you support your position? One guy. But that one time BM was town! I don't care. You lynch whoever is the most scummy player, and in 99% of cases the liar is that scummy player. That's really wishy washy. No longer really bad, you're bad scum trying to appear active in my mind now. See a trend here? What's this mamba/shady back and forth really about? I'm not sure anything of substance came from this. I'm not going to hold this against you, though, because if anyone ever wants to look through my filters in just about any game I'm not hydra'd with marvel on you're in for a rough time. One thing that bugged me about you here is that you already start calling lurkers out. How long has the game really been going for? Another thing that bugs me here is Mamba's voting with your earlier FoS on Hapa. This is more an indictment against Mamba than you, though. Mamba being one of my FoS's doesn't help you at all, and neither does your guys' giant discussion earlier. Now that it is much later in the game you point out that node and mamba are not posting like they should be. Fair enough, and I can get behind that. Now then. Another really bad vs bad point. How do you not understand what Mementoss is saying? You can DISAGREE with what he's saying, but to say it makes no sense? Add this to your earlier misrepresentation of mamba and you see where I start to question the line between really bad town, and bad scum. I think you're scum trying to appear active in the thread so you try and point things out that could be suspicious in other players. Any "cases" you make aren't really that fulfilling and then you vote Node. Why Node over MrZ? Surely the "active lurker" is more suspicious than the guy who might not even be playing the game/is getting modkilled. Right? It all adds up to really bad townie vs bad scum. I think you're just bad scum. ##unvote ##vote: Shady Sands | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 01 2012 05:49 Hapahauli wrote: @ MrZentor - can I request that you vote BlackMamba24? I doubt you'll get many followers with your Palmar vote, and as it stands, we want to start narrowing down our focus over the next few hours. Why do you say this? People could easily be persuaded into voting for Palmar. I think the only thing protecting Palmar at this point is his "veteran" status. What's the difference between Palmar and MrZ right now except that MrZ actually dug and found "something"? | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
but Mementoss displays a clear disconnect in the way that he perceives Zentor (on one hand being someone he needs to see more from, on the other hand as a scumbuddy of Hapa) you didn't address this. Nor did you explain why you said hapa was soft/hard defending Zentor. You're scummy mostly because of the way you reacted to some simple questions (spreading nonsense about soft defenses and trying to use that to call someone scummy). Ill read the stuff on Shady when I get to my computer. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
On August 31 2012 17:40 Palmar wrote: The world can't handle my greatness. I have no idea what's going on. Apparently I'm a detective but there's nothing that says I can investigate anyone. I haven't read the op or the game, I'll get back to you when I have. Let's assume that you, the reader, are a vanilla town. (If you're mafia say "I am not mafia in your next post.") Good. You just got your pm from Zephirdd. It's says that you're a detective, in green, so it's obvious that you're just a vanilla town. Why would you ever post in that in the thread? One of the many uses of the vanilla town is to act like a meat shield for the blues. You want scum to think you're blue. You want them to kill you instead of killing a blue. Now you're scum. Zephirdd has given you the information that the vanilla townsperson is a "detective". Now all you have to do is to allude to being a detective in the thread of free town cred. (yayyyy!!) So why did Palmar say what he said? And why is he acting so ignorant? + Show Spoiler + Also, I would like to suggest a policy lynch on Marv, because he suggested the idea of lynching me. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
Now all you have to do is allude to being a detective in the thread and earn free town cred. (yayyyy!!) | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
We're not going to lynch Palmar. Nor should anyone be voting for Node. As Mementoss said people should explain very well why they're voting for him. Plus I'm going out pretty soon and I'll be really drunk when I get back so I want to know where we're at. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On September 01 2012 05:47 BioSC wrote: Current Vote Count: Mr Zentor (1) - Hapahauli (2) - Risen, BlackMamba24 Hopeless1der (0) - BlackMamba24 (2) - Hapahauli, Marvellosity Mementoss (3) - HiroPro, ghost_403, mkfuba07 Node (1) - Shady Sands Palmar (1) - Mr Zentor Not Voting: SolarSail, Palmar, Node, Strongandbig, hopeless1der. Currently, Mementoss is set to be lynched. Deadline is set at 21:30 CDT (-05:00). Wait is this plurality lynch or majority? I checked the OP and it didn't say, so I thought the ability to vote "no lynch" meant it was majority (although now that I think about it, the ability to abstain makes it seem more like plurality). Anyway it would be good to have it explicitly stated. | ||
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marvellosity
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On September 01 2012 05:51 Risen wrote: Why do you say this? People could easily be persuaded into voting for Palmar. I think the only thing protecting Palmar at this point is his "veteran" status. What's the difference between Palmar and MrZ right now except that MrZ actually dug and found "something"? I'm trying to push a lynch on my top scumread. I really don't know what to make of Palmar, but I find BMB scummy and therefore I'll rally support on him. | ||
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