EPTI always just control+f "plurality" and "majority"
I need to stop doing that, I guess.
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
I always just control+f "plurality" and "majority" I need to stop doing that, I guess. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
##Unvote: Mr.Zentor ##Vote: ShadySands | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Regarding the case on Shady, I think it's Bad Town rather than Bad Mafia (apologies to the colorblind). Shady's posts read as a stream of consciousness to me, and not necessarily scummy behavior. Also, part of your case mentions guilt-by-association between BlackMamba24 and Shady... so why not vote BM24? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On September 01 2012 06:39 marvellosity wrote: alright, I'm about to head out. Please consolidate guys. Disappointing day 1 contribution from marv. I hope he comes back drunk and at least makes a funny drunk post. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On September 01 2012 06:50 Mementoss wrote: Disappointing day 1 contribution from marv. I hope he comes back drunk and at least makes a funny drunk post. Don't get your hopes up. I'm a walking disappointment. :< <3 | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 01 2012 06:50 Hapahauli wrote: @ HiroPro - given Mementoss's recent posts, you still think he's scummy? He didn't respond to this. I want to see what he has to say. I haven't yet read anything on Shady. On September 01 2012 05:54 HiroPro wrote: you didn't address this. Nor did you explain why you said hapa was soft/hard defending Zentor. You're scummy mostly because of the way you reacted to some simple questions (spreading nonsense about soft defenses and trying to use that to call someone scummy). Ill read the stuff on Shady when I get to my computer. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625¤tpage=13#258 Solid post, good logic, and I agree with most of what he says (still believe BM24 to be more scummy than Shady). Shouldn't that absolve him a bit? | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
To answer HiroPro. I occasionally say aggressive statements like this for people I'm null for to get some sort of reaction out of them and can make another opinion on them based on how they react. Sometimes it's been the case that people on the same scum team avoid communication in the thread or joke around with each other in the thread to lessen the distance between them. "Then... you vote Mr.Zentor for lurking? What?" This is what I considered to be a soft defense, trying to take the heat off him from that moment. "What does voting MrZentor even do, when you find other people suspicious?" Then implying that I am voting him for no reason and downplaying it, is what I considered a harder defense. As obviously I had a reason for doing it, and explaining it basically takes away all effectiveness of the action. I hope that clears it up to you hiro. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 01 2012 06:55 Hapahauli wrote: Howbout this stuff? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625¤tpage=13#258 Solid post, good logic, and I agree with most of what he says (still believe BM24 to be more scummy than Shady). Shouldn't that absolve him a bit? It's ok. The problem I have is that he ignored the brunt of the case (which is how he says he's unclear about Zentor but then later in the same post says that Hapa is soft-defending Zentor and they're scum buddies together) and focused on small things to reply to instead. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 01 2012 07:04 Mementoss wrote: "In the middle of this post, Mementoss says that he voted for Mr. Zentor in order to get him to post something useful, indicating that he has no clear view of Mr. Zentor's alignment. However, right after that Mementoss accuses Hapahauli of soft/hard defending Mr. Zentor and being his scumbuddy. Not only does this not make any sense, as the only posts that Hapahuli has made about Zentor are asking Mementoss why he voted for him, but Mementoss displays a clear disconnect in the way that he perceives Zentor (on one hand being someone he needs to see more from, on the other hand as a scumbuddy)." To answer HiroPro. I occasionally say aggressive statements like this for people I'm null for to get some sort of reaction out of them and can make another opinion on them based on how they react. Sometimes it's been the case that people on the same scum team avoid communication in the thread or joke around with each other in the thread to lessen the distance between them. "Then... you vote Mr.Zentor for lurking? What?" This is what I considered to be a soft defense, trying to take the heat off him from that moment. "What does voting MrZentor even do, when you find other people suspicious?" Then implying that I am voting him for no reason and downplaying it, is what I considered a harder defense. As obviously I had a reason for doing it, and explaining it basically takes away all effectiveness of the action. I hope that clears it up to you hiro. Hm, ok. I'm fine with this. I'll read the stuff on Shady in a little bit and decide what to do. ##Unvote | ||
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BlackMamba24
United States277 Posts
Imagine if you had a town that actually just lynched the person with the least posts every day. Mafia would auto-win. It's stupid. This charge against me is bald-faced OMGUS. Of course it's not a rock solid case. It's Day 1. I wouldn't even bet 10 bucks on it. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Lynch all lurkers is stupid You're right - now I'mma gonna lynch you. | ||
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BlackMamba24
United States277 Posts
Also, the miller claim. It basically protects scum from the DT. If you get DT checked you'd return scum in stead of self-aware miller so nobody can confirm it until you're dead and it gives you a point of argument if you do get DT checked. I need to go over his first post a bit closer but By the way can we please not lynch or FoS people for being absent from the thread until certain times? I normally wake up between 2-4 PM PST and am quite busy most of the day so keep that in mind. On September 01 2012 04:59 marvellosity wrote: Alright. You and ghost were both doing the same thing effectively so the explanation is reasonable. I don't wanna lynch Mementoss. He's cute. The thing with Blackmamba - the case was bad, ok. But if it was to cause discussion, then fine. Except he hasn't been around to actually deal with the discussion, and I find that scummy. I'd fucking love to policy lynch Zentor but annoyingly I can't quite bring myself to  ##Vote: Blackmamba24 Because only scum sleep in late or get sinus infections. I don't think there is a clear disconnect in the way Marvellosity sees MrZentor. If, in his mind, he thinks lynching Zentor is a good idea he's going to be biased and find and see things that support that preconceived notion. I'm guilty of building connections based on bad cases or even people I wasn't really that suspicious of because I want to be right. It's something that happens. I think SNB's strange disconnect is a lot more suspicious. I need to carefully read his first post some more because his claim did throw me off which is why if he is indeed scum I congratulate him for doing a move like that. | ||
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BlackMamba24
United States277 Posts
On September 01 2012 07:15 Hapahauli wrote: It goes beyond "not a rock-solid case." It's a terrible case. And everyone around here is telling me that you aren't a terrible player. You're right - now I'mma gonna lynch you. Of course you think that, I voted for you. You're using a lot of strong language but not providing any reason why we should always policy lynch lurkers. There is value in pressuring lurkers at certain stages in the game because scum need to be forced to talk but it's not that simple. | ||
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BlackMamba24
United States277 Posts
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