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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2012 20:39 GMT
#261
I tried, Zenty.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 20:41 GMT
#262
Pretty much 1000000% agree with mementoss.

Especially after seeing this post, him making multiple comments on players before his main suspicion seems to be his style. I think his post is well thought out, and we should be looking at some of the people on his wagon, as well as BMB, given how little attention he's been getting. It fells like the mementoss cases are a counter-wagon to BMB.

(Someone with knowledge of mementoss's meta correct me if I'm wrong).
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 20:42 GMT
#263
wtf is MrZ doing. Does he normally do this marv?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2012 20:42 GMT
#264
why do you think i suggested his policy lynch?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2012 20:43 GMT
#265
oh... to perhaps the implied question. It's totally not alignment indicative.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 20:46 GMT
#266
Is he generally this lurky D1 though? Could interpret the whole lurklurklurk ---> PalmarVote as scummy behavior I suppose.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 20:47:44
August 31 2012 20:47 GMT
#267
Current Vote Count:
Mr Zentor (1) - Hapahauli, Mementoss
Hapahauli (2) - Risen, BlackMamba24
Hopeless1der (0) - Hapahauli
BlackMamba24 (2) - Hapahauli, Marvellosity
Mementoss (3) - HiroPro, ghost_403, mkfuba07
Node (1) - Shady Sands
Palmar (1) - Mr Zentor


Not Voting: SolarSail, Palmar, Node, Strongandbig, hopeless1der.
Currently, Mementoss is set to be lynched. Deadline is set at 21:30 CDT (-05:00).
Bio - Breaking it down
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 20:48 GMT
#268
Shady Sands: The Case of Being Really Bad or Being Bad

I'm going to give Shady the benefit of the doubt here and say that he's just Bad.

To start off with, I can't tell whether he just didn't read the statement properly, or whether he was trying to misrepresent what mamba was saying (in the case of one, he's really bad, in the case of two, he's just bad. See where I'm going with this? This isn't American Politics. People are going to read what you're saying and "lying" about what someone means is going to get caught by someone (me!).

Now Hopeless is a town player in Shady's eyes and Hapa gets the good ole FoS for calling Hopeless out. Why is calling someone out for saying something stupid grounds for an FoS? Hopeless could CLAIM that what he did was simply meant to generate discussion but I tend to only believe such claims from people I've seen do it before. Regardless, Hopeless didn't claim that, and you pretty much FoS'd someone for calling out someone who asked to be told when he was lurking. It's too WIFOM to discuss what Hopeless was trying to do here, but it isn't WIFOM to say that calling Hopeless out for doing something stupid isn't something worthy of an FoS. Also, how do you justify your feelings that Hopeless is towny from what he's written? You use a WIFOMy argument. Sure, that might be all you have, and just saying that is fine. However, you used that to back up your suspicions of another player, which is bad.

Next up we have your "defense" of lynching lurkers over liars. This is really bad. Defense is in quotes because I don't think you ever really come out and say we should lynch lurkers over liars, but the implication sure is there. And how do you support your position? One guy. But that one time BM was town! I don't care. You lynch whoever is the most scummy player, and in 99% of cases the liar is that scummy player. That's really wishy washy. No longer really bad, you're bad scum trying to appear active in my mind now. See a trend here?

What's this mamba/shady back and forth really about? I'm not sure anything of substance came from this. I'm not going to hold this against you, though, because if anyone ever wants to look through my filters in just about any game I'm not hydra'd with marvel on you're in for a rough time. One thing that bugged me about you here is that you already start calling lurkers out. How long has the game really been going for? Another thing that bugs me here is Mamba's voting with your earlier FoS on Hapa. This is more an indictment against Mamba than you, though. Mamba being one of my FoS's doesn't help you at all, and neither does your guys' giant discussion earlier.

Now that it is much later in the game you point out that node and mamba are not posting like they should be. Fair enough, and I can get behind that.

Now then. Another really bad vs bad point. How do you not understand what Mementoss is saying? You can DISAGREE with what he's saying, but to say it makes no sense? Add this to your earlier misrepresentation of mamba and you see where I start to question the line between really bad town, and bad scum. I think you're scum trying to appear active in the thread so you try and point things out that could be suspicious in other players. Any "cases" you make aren't really that fulfilling and then you vote Node.

Why Node over MrZ? Surely the "active lurker" is more suspicious than the guy who might not even be playing the game/is getting modkilled. Right?

It all adds up to really bad townie vs bad scum. I think you're just bad scum.

##unvote
##vote: Shady Sands
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 20:49 GMT
#269
@ MrZentor - can I request that you vote BlackMamba24? I doubt you'll get many followers with your Palmar vote, and as it stands, we want to start narrowing down our focus over the next few hours.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 20:51 GMT
#270
On September 01 2012 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:
@ MrZentor - can I request that you vote BlackMamba24? I doubt you'll get many followers with your Palmar vote, and as it stands, we want to start narrowing down our focus over the next few hours.


Why do you say this? People could easily be persuaded into voting for Palmar. I think the only thing protecting Palmar at this point is his "veteran" status. What's the difference between Palmar and MrZ right now except that MrZ actually dug and found "something"?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 31 2012 20:54 GMT
#271

but Mementoss displays a clear disconnect in the way that he perceives Zentor (on one hand being someone he needs to see more from, on the other hand as a scumbuddy of Hapa)


you didn't address this. Nor did you explain why you said hapa was soft/hard defending Zentor.

You're scummy mostly because of the way you reacted to some simple questions (spreading nonsense about soft defenses and trying to use that to call someone scummy).


Ill read the stuff on Shady when I get to my computer.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
August 31 2012 20:56 GMT
#272
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 31 2012 17:40 Palmar wrote:
The world can't handle my greatness.

I have no idea what's going on. Apparently I'm a detective but there's nothing that says I can investigate anyone.

I haven't read the op or the game, I'll get back to you when I have.


Let's assume that you, the reader, are a vanilla town. (If you're mafia say "I am not mafia in your next post.")

Good. You just got your pm from Zephirdd.

It's says that you're a detective, in green, so it's obvious that you're just a vanilla town.

Why would you ever post in that in the thread? One of the many uses of the vanilla town is to act like a meat shield for the blues. You want scum to think you're blue.
You want them to kill you instead of killing a blue.

Now you're scum.

Zephirdd has given you the information that the vanilla townsperson is a "detective".

Now all you have to do is to allude to being a detective in the thread of free town cred. (yayyyy!!)



So why did Palmar say what he said?

And why is he acting so ignorant?

+ Show Spoiler +
Also, I would like to suggest a policy lynch on Marv, because he suggested the idea of lynching me.

Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 20:57 GMT
#273
DOES NO ONE READ THE SHIT I POST
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
August 31 2012 21:01 GMT
#274
+ Show Spoiler +
Now all you have to do is allude to being a detective in the thread and earn free town cred. (yayyyy!!)
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2012 21:10 GMT
#275
Risen, it's superhard to read without the quotes supporting it :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2012 21:12 GMT
#276
Also, votes need to start coming together a bit.

We're not going to lynch Palmar. Nor should anyone be voting for Node. As Mementoss said people should explain very well why they're voting for him.

Plus I'm going out pretty soon and I'll be really drunk when I get back so I want to know where we're at.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 31 2012 21:13 GMT
#277
Yeah I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to a few times. It's clear you spent a lot of time in his filter but I'm not sure what you found scummy or why.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 31 2012 21:15 GMT
#278
On September 01 2012 05:47 BioSC wrote:
Current Vote Count:
Mr Zentor (1) - Hapahauli, Mementoss
Hapahauli (2) - Risen, BlackMamba24
Hopeless1der (0) - Hapahauli
BlackMamba24 (2) - Hapahauli, Marvellosity
Mementoss (3) - HiroPro, ghost_403, mkfuba07
Node (1) - Shady Sands
Palmar (1) - Mr Zentor


Not Voting: SolarSail, Palmar, Node, Strongandbig, hopeless1der.
Currently, Mementoss is set to be lynched. Deadline is set at 21:30 CDT (-05:00).


Wait is this plurality lynch or majority?

I checked the OP and it didn't say, so I thought the ability to vote "no lynch" meant it was majority (although now that I think about it, the ability to abstain makes it seem more like plurality). Anyway it would be good to have it explicitly stated.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2012 21:16 GMT
#279
rule 5, it's pretty explicit actually.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 21:21 GMT
#280
On September 01 2012 05:51 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:
@ MrZentor - can I request that you vote BlackMamba24? I doubt you'll get many followers with your Palmar vote, and as it stands, we want to start narrowing down our focus over the next few hours.


Why do you say this? People could easily be persuaded into voting for Palmar. I think the only thing protecting Palmar at this point is his "veteran" status. What's the difference between Palmar and MrZ right now except that MrZ actually dug and found "something"?


I'm trying to push a lynch on my top scumread. I really don't know what to make of Palmar, but I find BMB scummy and therefore I'll rally support on him.
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