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tube
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JingleHell
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On July 18 2012 03:31 tube wrote: Why would someone blame you for a possible mislynch should Obvious get lynched. If it's not obvious, nobody was taking you seriously when you were randomly voting Obvious except Obvious himself. I only voted him once I actually started getting a read, as did Jingle and perfection. Three people found it scummy because it's scummy, how's that fascinating? I don't need anyone to distract the town away from me because nobody had any good reason to lynch me to begin with. If you think otherwise explain, not with some roundabout theory that bases itself on false assumptions. We did actually have good reason to suspect you, but once it was explained, you started making an effort to fix it, which earned you some BOTD, and Obvious's sudden reversal definitely made him appear more scummy than you. | ||
drwiggl3s
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Currently I think both tube and Obvious can be seen as scum. But the meta switch by tube (where he all of a sudden changed his tone, style, writing) seemed way too coached to have been his own doing. A vote against Obviousis a decent one, but I gotta go with my gut here and think tube is the more "obvious" scum player.. Unless I can pull more reasoning out of why Obvious is mafia, I'll leave my vote where it is now. ##tube | ||
tube
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theres literally no difference between the way i was talking before and the way i am now except i use punctuation and capitalization how do you even get coached in mafia why does everyone keep suggesting this | ||
JingleHell
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On July 18 2012 03:36 drwiggl3s wrote: Deadline is soon approaching and we still aren't at a consensus. Currently I think both tube and Obvious can be seen as scum. But the meta switch by tube (where he all of a sudden changed his tone, style, writing) seemed way too coached to have been his own doing. A vote against Obviousis a decent one, but I gotta go with my gut here and think tube is the more "obvious" scum player.. Unless I can pull more reasoning out of why Obvious is mafia, I'll leave my vote where it is now. ##tube You forgot the word "Vote" in your vote. Also, if you go back and look, the entire active portion of the thread was "coaching" tube's sudden shift in style. | ||
tube
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JingleHell
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Hapahauli
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YourHarry's been far more suspicious so far: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351398¤tpage=20#384 | ||
YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
On July 18 2012 03:10 JingleHell wrote: And because three people agreed in the public thread that somehow makes them the three scum? You're well into the "bizarre WIFOM" territory. I can't even see the slightest train of thought where we'd want to be in that position if we were scum. Of course agreeing with something that is agreeable is not scummy. It is possible that towns can agree on something. Agreeing with something that I do not find agreeable - that Obvious.660's post is a "meanginless" scummy post - in a very short period of time, with the common motivation to lynch the same person, is scummy. | ||
drwiggl3s
Canada167 Posts
ebwop Vote ##tube On July 18 2012 03:38 tube wrote: you're using the same argument that obvious backtracked on theres literally no difference between the way i was talking before and the way i am now except i use punctuation and capitalization how do you even get coached in mafia why does everyone keep suggesting this There was a huge difference. But since that post and everyone calling you out on it, YOU have since back tracked and modified your play and posting style to the way it was before. | ||
tube
United States1475 Posts
Going from not having a read to having a read is not a change in "play and posting style". It's me saying what I believe during each time, with a shift to using punctuation once I realized it would help. | ||
drwiggl3s
Canada167 Posts
I can see why you think YourHarry could be suspicious. But I think if we don't lynch tube for that pretty obvious scum slip (coaching.. there is coaching in this game remember?) that we'll be laughed at pretty hard when it moves past D1, D2.. etc and he's still flopping around with his crappy posts. | ||
JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 18 2012 03:42 YourHarry wrote: Of course agreeing with something that is agreeable is not scummy. It is possible that towns can agree on something. Agreeing with something that I do not find agreeable - that Obvious.660's post is a "meanginless" scummy post - in a very short period of time, with the common motivation to lynch the same person, is scummy. You're literally not making any sense. Scum all making the same point is beyond silly behavior. Like I said, you're taking us into useless WIFOM arguments here, but unless a situation is clutch, scum should be trying to avoid linking their fates like that. Especially in a D1 situation, where there's people making miniature cases every direction, the last thing scum should do is all be pointing the same direction. You're grasping at ridiculous straws, and not doing much to convince me of your innocence. Frankly, if obvious flips red, you and Hapa will be the first people I'll be looking at. Clearly a lot of people find him at least worthy of watching, if not a current vote, as evidenced by the many posts stating such. | ||
YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
On July 18 2012 03:31 tube wrote: Why would someone blame you for a possible mislynch should Obvious get lynched. If it's not obvious, nobody was taking you seriously when you were randomly voting Obvious except Obvious himself. I only voted him once I actually started getting a read, as did Jingle and perfection. Three people found it scummy because it's scummy, how's that fascinating? I don't need anyone to distract the town away from me because nobody had any good reason to lynch me to begin with. If you think otherwise explain, not with some roundabout theory that bases itself on false assumptions. Your reasoning that I may not be the person to be blamed if Obvious.660 lead to mislynch is logical. I agree that if I was away, and Obvious flipped town, I should not be the one to seem most scummy.. But even despite not providing any reason to vote Obvious.660, I did strongly push his bandwagon - mostly to see his reactions - which could seem scummy in many people's eyes. As you recently read, Hapha's accusation against me included this as my scuminess. Also, I still fail to see how Obvious.660 personal reads of everyone in the game is scummy. At least when I play mafia, we frequently take turns to reveal reads on every player in the game. | ||
Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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JingleHell
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On July 18 2012 03:48 YourHarry wrote: Your reasoning that I may not be the person to be blamed if Obvious.660 lead to mislynch is logical. I agree that if I was away, and Obvious flipped town, I should not be the one to seem most scummy.. But even despite not providing any reason to vote Obvious.660, I did strongly push his bandwagon - mostly to see his reactions - which could seem scummy in many people's eyes. As you recently read, Hapha's accusation against me included this as my scuminess. Also, I still fail to see how Obvious.660 personal reads of everyone in the game is scummy. At least when I play mafia, we frequently take turns to reveal reads on every player in the game. Obvious's "reads" were over-simplified jokes, including a mild OMGUS against me, which you've since picked up on as a possible bandwagon, and basically the whole post was just faux contribution useless clutter. Mostly non-committal nonsense. | ||
JingleHell
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On July 18 2012 03:48 Hapahauli wrote: But Tube didn't make a scumslip! He was asked to change his tone for the town and did so! And if the two of us are agreeing on it, you'd think it would be obvious as all hell to anyone else, right? | ||
YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
On July 18 2012 03:47 JingleHell wrote: You're literally not making any sense. Scum all making the same point is beyond silly behavior. Like I said, you're taking us into useless WIFOM arguments here, but unless a situation is clutch, scum should be trying to avoid linking their fates like that. Especially in a D1 situation, where there's people making miniature cases every direction, the last thing scum should do is all be pointing the same direction. You're grasping at ridiculous straws, and not doing much to convince me of your innocence. Frankly, if obvious flips red, you and Hapa will be the first people I'll be looking at. Clearly a lot of people find him at least worthy of watching, if not a current vote, as evidenced by the many posts stating such. Now you are tackling on a different point. Whether scums all making the same point is a silly behavior or not is WIFOM. If everyone in this game feels that it is silly for scums to all agree so openly, then it would be a GREAT strategy for scums to agree so they will not be suspected by people like you. | ||
Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On July 18 2012 03:51 JingleHell wrote: And if the two of us are agreeing on it, you'd think it would be obvious as all hell to anyone else, right? I'm shocked we're on the same side of this issue tbh o_O | ||
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