TL Mafia LVI - Page 25

On July 02 2012 00:54 Vivax wrote:
Also, for an experienced player, you seem to disregard the kenpachi rule by completely ignoring mK.

On July 01 2012 12:26 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Guys, Im up for lynching Kat.



The justification of Kat voting for me is: VE and Im trying to blend in. Hiding behind VE’s accusation is a way for her when the vote goes bad and make herself look better to anybody else who views VE as a likely town. Im trying to blend in? Lots of other people are blending in, I got a list of lurkers in my notes to prove it. If I was Mafia wouldn’t it make more sense to wait and post later or not at all to blend in?

Next Post Falls in with the Casual and BKE crowd interestingly the only two major candidates up at the time.



Yo, what?! You want us to continue a losing trend? You’re basically saying you support Day1 bandwagons on townies. So far you have provided zip evidence for you vote for me, much less info on the rest of the town.

On July 01 2012 23:47 Acrofales wrote:

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Regarding Katina. I feel Katina is a bit like Mattchew this game. Both are rather good players and neither have put any effort at all into playing. Both of them should be clearer reads when they start posting. Atm I'm null on Katina: she reads like someone who has put no effort at all into reading the thread, sheeped VE and went afk again. This could be scum, but could also be a lazy/busy townie who is putting no effort into the game and sheeps a veteran. Seems like a bad lynch candidate atm.

On July 02 2012 01:49 layabout wrote:
Current Votes:
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As a member of our great (circus) town it is very important that you put effort and time into your vote. It increases your chance of winning. It is expected of town. It is not very difficult for town. It is benfiacial for town. It is risky for mafia. The more opinions mafia give and the more stances mafia have to take, the more likely they are to give themselves away. Avoiding putting in time and effort in voting is beneficial to mafia.

With that in mind, why on earth are VisceraEyes and Acrofales throwing away their votes. Both players are known for domineering and leading threads for better or worse and it is surprising that they are happy to cast votes that will be of little consequence.

These players:
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Voted very early on and have not changed their votws. I am concerned that so many players are content to leave their votes like this when you consider the huge difference in the information available when they voted to the information available now.

Casualman voted for himself. Either he is a townie that is playing to screw with us or he is mafia plaing to screw with us.
We should kill Casualman. If we allow players to do that then we will be dealing with nonsense all game and once all of the active players are killed off our lurking brethren will see a bunch of rubbish get confused and lose. I still think we should kill Kurumi but he is at least half playing the game.

##Vote Casualman

On July 02 2012 01:49 layabout wrote:
Current Votes:
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As a member of our great (circus) town it is very important that you put effort and time into your vote. It increases your chance of winning. It is expected of town. It is not very difficult for town. It is benfiacial for town. It is risky for mafia. The more opinions mafia give and the more stances mafia have to take, the more likely they are to give themselves away. Avoiding putting in time and effort in voting is beneficial to mafia.

With that in mind, why on earth are VisceraEyes and Acrofales throwing away their votes. Both players are known for domineering and leading threads for better or worse and it is surprising that they are happy to cast votes that will be of little consequence.

These players:
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Voted very early on and have not changed their votws. I am concerned that so many players are content to leave their votes like this when you consider the huge difference in the information available when they voted to the information available now.

Casualman voted for himself. Either he is a townie that is playing to screw with us or he is mafia plaing to screw with us.
We should kill Casualman. If we allow players to do that then we will be dealing with nonsense all game and once all of the active players are killed off our lurking brethren will see a bunch of rubbish get confused and lose. I still think we should kill Kurumi but he is at least half playing the game.

##Vote Casualman

This whole post of yours is giving me a bad feeling. You call me out for wasting my vote, yet throw your own on a trollread, who is probably not getting lynched. You afraid that our votes will gain traction and your scumbuddy gets lynched?

On July 02 2012 02:28 layabout wrote:
You can't read BM.
Ignore him or kill him.

Don't pretend he is acting scummy.

On May 10 2012 17:37 Acrofales wrote:
@Zellblade and Carolus: I agree with your sentiment that there are too few people taking this game seriously in any way shape or form.

If I am emperor I will use my lynch like a vig shot: if I am completely certain someone is scum, I will lynch (shoot) him/her. Otherwise I will lynch a lurker or someone actively disrupting the game. So far we have quite a few in that second category, so separate call-out to them to start taking this game seriously, regardless of whether I am voted or not:

@P-Body: so you have an incredibly irritating posting restriction. Does that REALLY mean you have to write a wall of hexadecimal crap that translates to a continuation of the rolling stones? Or one of many of your other nonsense messages. A posting restriction seems like a major pain in the backside, but the reason it worked for Foolishness, is because he DIDN'T SPAM the thread with useless crap: he posted only when he had something to say (however cryptic he actually had to say it in his limerick form).

@Sinani/dog: you're almost as bad as P-Body. Except that your nonsense is actually legible.

@TheBard: see Sinani.

@Mattchew: cats are cute, we get it. Now start playing the game, instead of criticizing those that are trying.

I actually find CompanionCube and Drazerk marginally tolerable compared to the above four.

As for my stance on whom to make chancellor, I want a question answered first:
must the emperor/empress make a chancellor/archbishop immediately? Or in D1?

If it's in D1, I see no rush in saying who I think will make a good chancellor. If it's immediately, I'll make a statement before the voting deadline. Which reminds me: am I correct in assuming voting deadline is 10 PM CET tonight?

On May 10 2012 21:01 Acrofales wrote:


This is what I mean with you being completely confusing as both town and scum. You make quite a decent point and then draw completely wrong conclusions from it.

1. Your wall post is decent because it reveals a lot of information about you (not necessarily about the people you are posting about). It's quite a townie thing to do. However, you continuously obfuscate townie moves by posting random stuff. This makes you exceptionally bad as an emperor/empress, as I don't want to be second-guessing you all the time.

2. Changing opinion often is something I am FAR more likely to do as town than scum. Mainly because as scum I already KNOW who is scum and don't need to second-guess myself. I can pick some random townies and start building up bogus cases on them. I don't need to change opinion unless someone "convinces" me. However, as town, I don't know who is scum and who is town and will be far more inclined to try to look at things from both sides and find reasons for actions in either a scum, or a town motivation, without being biased either way. As scum, I can be completely free to nail someone to the cross with a case painting out all the little slips they made during the game. As town, I must always be aware that someone playing scummy might still be a delusional town.

3. Posting all over the place doesn't make you transparent if you do it regardless of alignment. The only thing that can be said in its favour is that by posting a LOT, you give a LOT to analyze. However, the longer a game goes on, the less I enjoy going through giant filters.

On March 18 2011 18:02 Ver wrote:
Lastly, you will notice that almost every one of my posts was made with 100% conviction. That was a deliberate act. The only people I was absolutely 100% certain on were Chaoser, LD, and cubedin (lategame) and for each one I said that. The most dangerous person for the mafia to face (and the town as well actually) is the one who is absolutely convinced of themselves and will stop at nothing to get their target lynched. Mafia absolutely delight to see townies who aren't sure of themselves. First of all, someone who can't convince themselves can't convince others, and secondly, it's easier for the mafia to dissuade that person out of their attacks if they manage to hit mafia. I remember in Salem Doctor H had snagged Jimbosilvers and Radfield, but he made the fatal mistake of showing doubt of his own convictions, and the mafia whispered eagerly in glee and redoubled their efforts to save themselves. Had he showed complete belief in his targets, the mafia were much more inclined to simply give up. I think that happened in this game as well. LSB, Foolishness, and myself were all acting in such a certainty of our beliefs and the mafia simply never had the heart to take us on. So as soon as we hit red, that was one mafia down. Obviously that had an enormous effect on the game, because there was not one single lynch where the mafia team mobilized their forces to take us on in the thread and in the voting booth at once. Instead every single time they hurriedly stepped to the side and said 'please, go right ahead and kill my buddy good sir.' Pretty awesome right?

On July 02 2012 03:15 Acrofales wrote:
Anyway, I'm leaving my vote on him in the hope that the rest of town sees the light. Going to watch the football now and probably won't be back for the deadline. VIVA ESPAÑA!!!

On July 02 2012 01:31 Katina wrote:
Okay, let's get some clarification here:



I'm not hiding behind anything. I am ready to take full responisbility for my actions if things go wrong. I have played in enough games with VE to get a good town read on him so far this game. Until I see something that proves my read on him wrong.

No it wouldn't make sense to do so. So when things go wrong you can hide behind the fact that you have posts and are trying to "help" the town. Mafia do may different things from attacking each other in thread to lurking to leading the town.

No I don't want to continue a losing trend. Don't take what I'm saying out of context. It was clearly sarcasm.

I provide as much evidence as I can get day one. I can add attacking your attacker to the list of evidence as well. If there is something you wish to no then please feel free to ask. I will tell you whatever you want to know.



I have been busy this weekend and I'm trying my best to get in and post when I can.

I'm not sheeping VE. I found what he had to say about BKE was interesting. After looking over his filter for myself I got suspicious and posted against him. I think that agreeing with another player is a bad reason to think someone is suspicious.

On July 02 2012 03:24 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, and you're selectively quoting from Holy Roman. I stated quite a few times that I had a town read on BM and you know it.
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And there's a few more where that came from.