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##Vote: Mkmkmknmkmkmkmk
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On July 02 2012 05:38 Mandalor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 04:17 Mattchew wrote:Mattchew's People that need to die and why list3. MandalorFirst post of the game says he hasn't read, but still votes BKE. Cool, I like being scum and trying to blend in by voting the popular candidate too. + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote:
##VOTE: BKE
I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Hi scum trying not to be accountable for reads and reasons! + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote:On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote:
##VOTE: BKE
I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. If you're not caught up why did you vote? I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. I wont post his whole filter, but he then goes onto explain that he voted and is voting BKE cause he causes trouble for the town early on. Is this the fault of BKE or the fault of those creating the shitstorm around him with little to no reasoning? Voting for someone because they are being highlighted in the thread and because a lot of people yell "he's scum" at him is terrible reasoning. He also says "I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote." which just encourages more people to vote ignorantly without reason. Awesome. I love how you blatantly leave out parts of my post so it alligns with what you say. Maybe I should really disregard my anti-post-analytics on day 1 policy, because that reeks of scum. I'd like to highlight that specific part again for future reference: Show nested quote +Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Also you seem to have issues with reading comprehension. I didn't say I didn't read in my first post. I said I didn't catch up, yet. Huge difference (10 pages in my situation). Obviously that only helps your case against me. Since you're making yourself so important, I guess I'll just do that too. You are now my die-list.
which parts did I leave out.
Did you say that you had read ten pages in that first post? That huge difference is only clarified after someone else called you on it, making it null and void because we have no way of knowing how much you read / didn't read.
Did you offer any reasoning for your vote on BKE in your first 2 posts?
Did you ever offer any reasons why BKE is causing the so-called trouble you are voting him for? Did you every shine light on how he is pushing a mafia agenda or acting scummy or anything about his scum-like behavior? No you just said he's causing trouble.
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On July 02 2012 05:44 Bill Murray wrote:
I dislike mattchew attacking me with 0 reasoning
I also like him attacking wiggles, i have a townread on wiggles
This isn't attacking you with 0 reasoning, its just attacking you with 0 reasoning from this game. Can you point me to a game where you survived late into the game as town and town won?
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On July 02 2012 05:49 Twelve wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 02 2012 05:21 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 05:08 s0Lstice wrote:
oh hai mattchew. I don't like most of what you just posted.
Firstly, you wrongly interpreted what Twelve said. Him saying he is for bandwagon hatred does not mean he hates bandwagons, it means he is fine with hating someone using someone elses reasons.
So he just randomly through out the 2 names being discussed most as lynch candidates at the time by his own accord, without almost any reason attached to it? I fail to see how this is pro-town in any way. Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 05:08 s0Lstice wrote:
How you read Casualman as anything but a troll at this point is beyond me. Trolling isn't alignment indicative.
So someone you consider "unreadable" through their posts, is supposed to help town? Trolling, in your opinion, may not be indicative of alignment but how can you consider anyone offering actual opinions and thoughts as a better day 1 lynch than somoeone who is literally offering us nothing (in your opinion) to read him based off of. Also, you fail to add in my second point of how all his "forms of trolling" have basically been done in the threads by others beforehand. This is an ez mode way to blend in by doing something someone else did. Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 05:08 s0Lstice wrote:
Your reasoning on BM is: ....we should kill BM because he shouldn't be alive.
Read any game with BM in it. A. 90% he's scum. and B. when he's left unchecked town often lose Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 05:08 s0Lstice wrote:
Your portion on drwiggl3s is off as well. He does say a reason why he thinks people are scummy for not voting BKE: they are soft-defending BKE and trying to turn the attention elsewhere. You may not like his reason, but it's a reason.
So you think its ok to tell people that they must focus on only BKE in a game of 27, yet when someone votes BKE with no reason thats ok? There is a huge contradiction there. If BKE flips town, and we have 14+ voters on him with very little reason, his mis-lynch will yield zero information to town. People should be pushing for peoples reasons and thoughts, not for just them to vote for their favorite lynch candidate. Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 05:08 s0Lstice wrote:You also threw casualman into the spotlight, and then walked away from it for quite awhile. Talking about what casualman is doing is a colossal waste of time, because you can sum it up in one word + Show Spoiler +. I find it hard to believe you are acting in the town's best interest at the moment. Your fails in reading comprehension raise my eyebrows. I'm beginning to think you're scum. I think you are completely wrong and are reading things in a wrong way. I can't tell if this is on purpose or not. I'm not sure how my reasoning would be considered random. I explained why I thought the 2 people that I thought. You seem much more concerned with meta gaming then focusing on the game you in right now. Saying that someone is scum in 90% of past games shows that you are behaving irrationally, emotionally, or just plain being disruptive. As well as a deficiency in statistical analysis 
I am saying that its not a coincidence and that its not random. Also, would you like to look at BM's last 10 or so games. I think its like atleast 60%. And this is far from irrational or emtional. Its calculated and helpful
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Quick housekeeping. Looks like mkmkmk is our choice for today, and I'm cool with that. Vote switched.
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On July 02 2012 05:59 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 05:38 Mandalor wrote:On July 02 2012 04:17 Mattchew wrote:Mattchew's People that need to die and why list3. MandalorFirst post of the game says he hasn't read, but still votes BKE. Cool, I like being scum and trying to blend in by voting the popular candidate too. + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote:
##VOTE: BKE
I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Hi scum trying not to be accountable for reads and reasons! + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote:On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote:
##VOTE: BKE
I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. If you're not caught up why did you vote? I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. I wont post his whole filter, but he then goes onto explain that he voted and is voting BKE cause he causes trouble for the town early on. Is this the fault of BKE or the fault of those creating the shitstorm around him with little to no reasoning? Voting for someone because they are being highlighted in the thread and because a lot of people yell "he's scum" at him is terrible reasoning. He also says "I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote." which just encourages more people to vote ignorantly without reason. Awesome. I love how you blatantly leave out parts of my post so it alligns with what you say. Maybe I should really disregard my anti-post-analytics on day 1 policy, because that reeks of scum. I'd like to highlight that specific part again for future reference: Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Also you seem to have issues with reading comprehension. I didn't say I didn't read in my first post. I said I didn't catch up, yet. Huge difference (10 pages in my situation). Obviously that only helps your case against me. Since you're making yourself so important, I guess I'll just do that too. You are now my die-list. which parts did I leave out. Did you say that you had read ten pages in that first post? That huge difference is only clarified after someone else called you on it, making it null and void because we have no way of knowing how much you read / didn't read. Did you offer any reasoning for your vote on BKE in your first 2 posts? Did you ever offer any reasons why BKE is causing the so-called trouble you are voting him for? Did you every shine light on how he is pushing a mafia agenda or acting scummy or anything about his scum-like behavior? No you just said he's causing trouble.
You left my third post out and decided to summarize and add some nice flavor to it. You know, the whole voting for someone because he was highlighted yadda yadda. I never said or implied any of that. I gave my reasoning in my third post. And you repeat that I voted for BKE with no reason. It's right there. It's fine that you think I'm scum, but you're not helping town by putting words in my mouth. You just join the people that have a case against me and add some lies to it. That's nice, I think I did this in mafia 3.
I gave my reasons in post 3. Nothing to add, really. Here's a link to my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=2074
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When is deadline? I'm in LA. Inb4 dodging responsibility for lynch.
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I said I didn't catch up to the thread. That implies I've read parts of it. Whether that's 10 pages or 14 or 8 is irrelevant I think? I didn't know that was important. There are several people that voted and changed their mind during the course of day1. I didn't change my mind, although I'm not at all sure about BKE, but I don't see how that makes me scum.
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On July 02 2012 06:23 Mandalor wrote:
I said I didn't catch up to the thread. That implies I've read parts of it. Whether that's 10 pages or 14 or 8 is irrelevant I think? I didn't know that was important. There are several people that voted and changed their mind during the course of day1. I didn't change my mind, although I'm not at all sure about BKE, but I don't see how that makes me scum.
It means you did not consume all the information available to you before making an opinion. The vote seemed forced out of you by the way the thread was going.
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Foxtrot and kthez look bad.
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On July 02 2012 06:19 Mandalor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 05:59 Mattchew wrote:On July 02 2012 05:38 Mandalor wrote:On July 02 2012 04:17 Mattchew wrote:Mattchew's People that need to die and why list3. MandalorFirst post of the game says he hasn't read, but still votes BKE. Cool, I like being scum and trying to blend in by voting the popular candidate too. + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote:
##VOTE: BKE
I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Hi scum trying not to be accountable for reads and reasons! + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote:On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote:
##VOTE: BKE
I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. If you're not caught up why did you vote? I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. I wont post his whole filter, but he then goes onto explain that he voted and is voting BKE cause he causes trouble for the town early on. Is this the fault of BKE or the fault of those creating the shitstorm around him with little to no reasoning? Voting for someone because they are being highlighted in the thread and because a lot of people yell "he's scum" at him is terrible reasoning. He also says "I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote." which just encourages more people to vote ignorantly without reason. Awesome. I love how you blatantly leave out parts of my post so it alligns with what you say. Maybe I should really disregard my anti-post-analytics on day 1 policy, because that reeks of scum. I'd like to highlight that specific part again for future reference: Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Also you seem to have issues with reading comprehension. I didn't say I didn't read in my first post. I said I didn't catch up, yet. Huge difference (10 pages in my situation). Obviously that only helps your case against me. Since you're making yourself so important, I guess I'll just do that too. You are now my die-list. which parts did I leave out. Did you say that you had read ten pages in that first post? That huge difference is only clarified after someone else called you on it, making it null and void because we have no way of knowing how much you read / didn't read. Did you offer any reasoning for your vote on BKE in your first 2 posts? Did you ever offer any reasons why BKE is causing the so-called trouble you are voting him for? Did you every shine light on how he is pushing a mafia agenda or acting scummy or anything about his scum-like behavior? No you just said he's causing trouble. You left my third post out and decided to summarize and add some nice flavor to it. You know, the whole voting for someone because he was highlighted yadda yadda. I never said or implied any of that. I gave my reasoning in my third post. And you repeat that I voted for BKE with no reason. It's right there. It's fine that you think I'm scum, but you're not helping town by putting words in my mouth. You just join the people that have a case against me and add some lies to it. That's nice, I think I did this in mafia 3. I gave my reasons in post 3. Nothing to add, really. Here's a link to my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=2074
I know the link to your filter extremely well trust me.
You claim that I summarized it too vaguely. Mind telling me your reason other than his disturbance to the thread, why you think BKE is scum or a good lynch? I am just using your own words.
On July 01 2012 10:21 Mandalor wrote:
On Day1, I feel like there's only two good options for town.
a) kill a lurker
b) kill a guy that causes trouble just hours into the game
I don't like option a). Playing as mafia is fun. You hang around in a chat channel and make your plans. You're probably more busy with the chat than writing in the thread, but still... you're less likely to lurk. If the mafia is smart, they will have a couple of lurkers, but definitely not the majority so the odds of killing a town lurker is a lot higher on day1.
BKE qualifies for option b). Whether or not he's mafia, I personally don't like people in my game that use words like "scummy" judging people's first post in the game. Noone has posted enough in this game that I could possibly have built a good enough opinion on them, but apparently he can do that.
I'm not even going to address his newbie-theory.
I'm not saying I'm sure about BKE whatsoever, but he's our best option in my book.
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On July 02 2012 06:26 EchelonTee wrote:
Foxtrot and kthez look bad.
First reaction, who is kthez?
after looking at his filter, yes he needs to die too.
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On July 02 2012 06:19 Mandalor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 05:59 Mattchew wrote:On July 02 2012 05:38 Mandalor wrote:On July 02 2012 04:17 Mattchew wrote:Mattchew's People that need to die and why list3. MandalorFirst post of the game says he hasn't read, but still votes BKE. Cool, I like being scum and trying to blend in by voting the popular candidate too. + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote:
##VOTE: BKE
I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Hi scum trying not to be accountable for reads and reasons! + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote:On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote:
##VOTE: BKE
I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. If you're not caught up why did you vote? I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. I wont post his whole filter, but he then goes onto explain that he voted and is voting BKE cause he causes trouble for the town early on. Is this the fault of BKE or the fault of those creating the shitstorm around him with little to no reasoning? Voting for someone because they are being highlighted in the thread and because a lot of people yell "he's scum" at him is terrible reasoning. He also says "I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote." which just encourages more people to vote ignorantly without reason. Awesome. I love how you blatantly leave out parts of my post so it alligns with what you say. Maybe I should really disregard my anti-post-analytics on day 1 policy, because that reeks of scum. I'd like to highlight that specific part again for future reference: Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Also you seem to have issues with reading comprehension. I didn't say I didn't read in my first post. I said I didn't catch up, yet. Huge difference (10 pages in my situation). Obviously that only helps your case against me. Since you're making yourself so important, I guess I'll just do that too. You are now my die-list. which parts did I leave out. Did you say that you had read ten pages in that first post? That huge difference is only clarified after someone else called you on it, making it null and void because we have no way of knowing how much you read / didn't read. Did you offer any reasoning for your vote on BKE in your first 2 posts? Did you ever offer any reasons why BKE is causing the so-called trouble you are voting him for? Did you every shine light on how he is pushing a mafia agenda or acting scummy or anything about his scum-like behavior? No you just said he's causing trouble. You left my third post out and decided to summarize and add some nice flavor to it. You know, the whole voting for someone because he was highlighted yadda yadda. I never said or implied any of that. I gave my reasoning in my third post. And you repeat that I voted for BKE with no reason. It's right there. It's fine that you think I'm scum, but you're not helping town by putting words in my mouth. You just join the people that have a case against me and add some lies to it. That's nice, I think I did this in mafia 3. I gave my reasons in post 3. Nothing to add, really. Here's a link to my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=2074
And I disputed this reason in this Post.
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Mattchew, adam, ve, katina; is the mK lynch good to you? Something feels a bit fishy; I need reassurance or a cold slap in the face. We narrowly have time for a mass switch; only other option I see as feasible and good is a BM lynch.
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Marvellosity has replaced KtheZ!
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Switching to Broodking because mkmkmk is a lurker and i don't wish to join the legions of people pretending they are voting for somebody scummy when they are voting for someone that isn't here.
##Vote BroodkingEXE
It saddens that some of you think that casualman's behaviour is acceptable.
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shit how did I end up here :<
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On July 02 2012 06:42 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Marvellosity has replaced KtheZ!
Oh God not again pls
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On July 02 2012 06:25 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 06:23 Mandalor wrote:
I said I didn't catch up to the thread. That implies I've read parts of it. Whether that's 10 pages or 14 or 8 is irrelevant I think? I didn't know that was important. There are several people that voted and changed their mind during the course of day1. I didn't change my mind, although I'm not at all sure about BKE, but I don't see how that makes me scum. It means you did not consume all the information available to you before making an opinion. The vote seemed forced out of you by the way the thread was going.
Yeah I voted before reading every page. Guilty of charge. I was afraid of being modkilled and therefore decided to place a vote early. BKE's post in question was early in the thread and it looked suspicious to me. I then decided to read the rest of the thread and I'm up to date now.
So yeah, it was forced. Not forced by anyone in the game tho. Noone implied I was mafia before I voted, so - again - how does that make me scum?
On July 02 2012 06:28 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 06:19 Mandalor wrote:On July 02 2012 05:59 Mattchew wrote:On July 02 2012 05:38 Mandalor wrote:On July 02 2012 04:17 Mattchew wrote:Mattchew's People that need to die and why list3. MandalorFirst post of the game says he hasn't read, but still votes BKE. Cool, I like being scum and trying to blend in by voting the popular candidate too. + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote:
##VOTE: BKE
I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Hi scum trying not to be accountable for reads and reasons! + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote:On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote:
##VOTE: BKE
I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. If you're not caught up why did you vote? I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. I wont post his whole filter, but he then goes onto explain that he voted and is voting BKE cause he causes trouble for the town early on. Is this the fault of BKE or the fault of those creating the shitstorm around him with little to no reasoning? Voting for someone because they are being highlighted in the thread and because a lot of people yell "he's scum" at him is terrible reasoning. He also says "I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote." which just encourages more people to vote ignorantly without reason. Awesome. I love how you blatantly leave out parts of my post so it alligns with what you say. Maybe I should really disregard my anti-post-analytics on day 1 policy, because that reeks of scum. I'd like to highlight that specific part again for future reference: Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Also you seem to have issues with reading comprehension. I didn't say I didn't read in my first post. I said I didn't catch up, yet. Huge difference (10 pages in my situation). Obviously that only helps your case against me. Since you're making yourself so important, I guess I'll just do that too. You are now my die-list. which parts did I leave out. Did you say that you had read ten pages in that first post? That huge difference is only clarified after someone else called you on it, making it null and void because we have no way of knowing how much you read / didn't read. Did you offer any reasoning for your vote on BKE in your first 2 posts? Did you ever offer any reasons why BKE is causing the so-called trouble you are voting him for? Did you every shine light on how he is pushing a mafia agenda or acting scummy or anything about his scum-like behavior? No you just said he's causing trouble. You left my third post out and decided to summarize and add some nice flavor to it. You know, the whole voting for someone because he was highlighted yadda yadda. I never said or implied any of that. I gave my reasoning in my third post. And you repeat that I voted for BKE with no reason. It's right there. It's fine that you think I'm scum, but you're not helping town by putting words in my mouth. You just join the people that have a case against me and add some lies to it. That's nice, I think I did this in mafia 3. I gave my reasons in post 3. Nothing to add, really. Here's a link to my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=2074 I know the link to your filter extremely well trust me. You claim that I summarized it too vaguely. Mind telling me your reason other than his disturbance to the thread, why you think BKE is scum or a good lynch? I am just using your own words. + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2012 10:21 Mandalor wrote:
On Day1, I feel like there's only two good options for town.
a) kill a lurker
b) kill a guy that causes trouble just hours into the game
I don't like option a). Playing as mafia is fun. You hang around in a chat channel and make your plans. You're probably more busy with the chat than writing in the thread, but still... you're less likely to lurk. If the mafia is smart, they will have a couple of lurkers, but definitely not the majority so the odds of killing a town lurker is a lot higher on day1.
BKE qualifies for option b). Whether or not he's mafia, I personally don't like people in my game that use words like "scummy" judging people's first post in the game. Noone has posted enough in this game that I could possibly have built a good enough opinion on them, but apparently he can do that.
I'm not even going to address his newbie-theory.
I'm not saying I'm sure about BKE whatsoever, but he's our best option in my book.
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On June 30 2012 10:30 BroodKingEXE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 10:21 s0Lstice wrote:
Hello folks. I'll be joining the ranks of the scum hunters once again (5th time in a row!). This is my first large game, so it's going to be an adjustment...but one I'm capable of making. Being that it's friday night I will be scarce, but I'll be active on saturday, and I'm sure I'll have plenty of material to analyze. Stay tuned.
Saying that this is your 5th time in a row being town-aligned has the undercurrent of convincing us you are town in this game, and you dodge posting responsibility by it being a Friday. This is a scummy post to start out with.
s0lstice first post in the thread (after the game started). I still don't see anything fishy there.
At this point I'm even more convinced of mK or probably even you. If I vote for mK, people will call me an obvious bandwagoner. If I vote for you, I'm throwing away my vote, looking probably even more scummy. This is a sitation I haven't been in, yet. Tbh I don't see how to clear myself. People like you seem to have made up your mind on 0 evidence and literally anything I do will make me look worse.
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