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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
While we are at it, Did mafia roles get assigned or did they get to pick who got what rolls? (like choose who is GF) | ||
chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Here is the 1st post where he basically takes a stance on something game-related. He says he supports me shooting or wbg shooting me. However, by this point he only posted setup-related fluff. The only thing game-related (who he thinks is scum, etc) was him thinking RoL was most likely Miller if there weren't any counterclaims today. Yet now he all of a sudden jumps on the wagon to shoot me..... On June 12 2012 22:40 rastaban wrote: The following People need to post, they are very inactive, and if they have said anything it is only a few one liners. risk.nuke Kenpachi payl gonzaw I don't see him for mafia, but I don't have a problem with making him shoot someone else if it will lessen the distracting discussion on him. So far the biggest arguments against him have been that he supported ROL and that he claimed He hadn't seen a Mafia fake a miller claim before. To me he doesn't seem scum at all, and most of the case is hinged on defending ROL, If ROL is really a miller then all the discussion seems moot. ROL Controversy, We still have no other Millers claiming, and until we get some other contenders I am very inclined to believe ROL. There should have been 2 hits last night (mafia & SK), and only 1 went down. Unless someone else claims to have been protected I see no reason to disbelieve this. I lean towards an SK 1 shot power as if it is reuseable it would be way over powered, I think we keep an eye on him and see how things progress. If the Mafia tried to shoot him, and an SK tried to remove the gun, then I think we should hold off on killing him for a bit since there must be a reason so many people tried to hit him last night. Again if more Millers come forward then I agree we should re-evaluate the claim but for now I think his play seems town and we should hold off a final judgment for him. Meapak_Ziphh, your filter looked really bad last night tons of filler and no posts contributing to discussion, but you seem to be posting more like your normal self today. Mind explaining what was going on? Except he now thinks I'm town and doesn't want to shoot me. It seems like he basically forgot he supported a claim from someone wanting to shoot me. On June 12 2012 22:46 rastaban wrote: Thanks for bringing this up, I forgot about him. He really needs to start posting content, and he does seem very scummy. I will try and get some time to review some of his other games to see if he is always so useless to town. So....where are those "reviews" you promised? You never mentioned Zentor again On June 13 2012 00:23 rastaban wrote: Regarding the plan of guns and not guns claiming, don't you think even the mafia without guns will claim they have guns (maybe 1 won't) so we just end up shooting all our blues for a few days? We don't know how many blues town has so we won't even know if mafia is the group. I don't see how that plan helps anything it isn't like the goons are going to admit they have no guns. We end up have some people claiming to have guns, who don't have guns, but how do we decide who it is? We are back to square 1 but now they know which townies have guns and who doesn't so they can shoot acordingly. We just give them even more information while we are just as confused as before. Unless I am missing something this is a very bad plan, plus we should worry less about plans and more about about posts. I agree Chaoser trying to push the shot so fast was very very bad. Chaoser, why did you want to stifle so much discussion? ...except here you talk to Zentor...but instead of trying to figure out Zentor's or my alignment based on Zentor's defense of me....he only dwells on that plan I posted and ignores everything else (of course he says that my plan is shit). On June 13 2012 00:32 rastaban wrote: Wow that's an incredibly bold claim. Are you that good at picking out scum, because I got a townie vibe so it is quite shocking for me to see someone so certain. Maybe I am being too sure of things I shouldn't be. I had him pegged as stupid Towney for the giant plan that failed due to not even reading the OP. I like to think that ROL is actually the miller so his defense of him seems like something mafia wouldn't due (sticking their neck out for someone else), especially after they apparently tried to hit last night (Missing KP and no one else claiming to have been hit). I haven't seen you give strong arguments for his guilt though(maybe I missed it)... are you swayed by Marv's reasoning or do you have your own? Again, he thinks I'm town, repeating the same thing he said previously (that the only arguments against me are that I defended RoL last night and he didn't think a mafia would do it). On June 13 2012 02:06 rastaban wrote: I say we have Gonzaw shoot payl. We find out if Gonzow has a gun and if he does, we off the single post Smurf. I have a feeling at least one if not more of the mafia are in the lurking crowd intentionally or not and it is causing confusion in the Mafia ranks. If gonzaw won't fire lets let chaoser kill him. So here he jumps on the "let gonzaw shoot or be shot" wagon again...even though he thought I was town. Now he just straights wants me shot (he concurs on Zentor shooting me). No indication of what changed his town read on me On June 13 2012 03:38 rastaban wrote: @gonzaw But the whole point is that you can't shoot. I thought you could shoot, so now that you can't and you have this many accusations on you it is time to kill you. Claim your role if you are town. So he changed his town read on me to a scum read just because I couldn't shoot. He never specified he thought I was town because I could shoot initially, and afterwards he never specified he thought I was scum because I couldn't shoot (until he was called out on it). He still hasn't contributed on anything else, not even on Zentor as he promised to. He just made his flip-flopping on me, and discussed about Millers and plans...even though it's not N0 anymore. And I think he can't shoot either, because of this: Supports wbg shooting me....not volunteering himself to shoot me. On June 13 2012 02:06 rastaban wrote: I say we have Gonzaw shoot payl. We find out if Gonzow has a gun and if he does, we off the single post Smurf. I have a feeling at least one if not more of the mafia are in the lurking crowd intentionally or not and it is causing confusion in the Mafia ranks. If gonzaw won't fire lets let chaoser kill him. Supports chaoser shooting me...not volunteering himself to shoot me. Supports Zentor shooting me...not volunteering himself to shoot me. On June 13 2012 04:03 rastaban wrote: Sorry gonzaw I won't tell you if I have a gun or not, Scum is already trying to snipe our VEs as it is, you will just have to wait and see. This basically seals it for me, he doesn't have a gun. Not only that, but he's diverting attention off it by saying that scum are sniping "VEs" (I guess he meant VT's). Why does claiming blue have anything to do with sniping VT's? There have been like 5 people that claimed they were VTs already, if scum are sniping VTs at most they'll be "sniping" them, whether you claim you have a gun or not. What difference does it make? This convinced me he has a gun, but his previous behaviour and the fact he's trying to dodge the issue of claiming a gun based on bad reasoning makes me think he's scum. Of course if I'm somehow wrong and he's VT he can change all this by shooting me and proving me wrong. | ||
chaoser
United States5541 Posts
To the bold: I very much want to shoot him. I want this day to come to a conclusion by me shooting him. There's a tonne of ppl who haven't been around today yet though, so I don't want to jump the gun. Forgive the pun and still haven't pulled the trigger after his bullshit claim. | ||
deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On June 13 2012 07:36 marvellosity wrote: Could the cop have possibly been naive given the wording in the OP etc? The OP is clear; the only Cop sanities are Sane, Insane or Paranoid. On June 13 2012 07:39 rastaban wrote: EBWOP While we are at it, Did mafia roles get assigned or did they get to pick who got what rolls? (like choose who is GF) Not relevant. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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marvellosity
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On June 13 2012 07:42 chaoser wrote: marv, shoot him. I want to see it from you. Especially since you said: and still haven't pulled the trigger after his bullshit claim. Shut up chaoser. Why wouldn't you want rastaban or even payl/other lurker shooting me? marv can prove he's VT by shooting later, wouldn't you want someone more suspicious to prove he's VT first? | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
My rastaban case: This convinced me he DOESN'T HAVE a gun, but his previous behaviour and the fact he's trying to dodge the issue of claiming a gun based on bad reasoning makes me think he's scum. | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 13 2012 07:45 Toadesstern wrote: yeah I really don't want more good looking people to claim either way. EBWOP | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Cephiro has disappeared as well, not a good sign at all coming from him (whether he's nice and all like in DF2 or just straight up crazy like in Liar Game) | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
On June 13 2012 07:31 marvellosity wrote: He can't fake a breadcrumb? Look at how much trouble he was in when he made it. Go back and read the thread (this isn't me being aggressive, just asking you to do so) I did go ahead and reread his filter and yours as well for your posts against him. It's pretty convincing stuff and the way that gonzaw is attempting to shift focus onto rastaban away from the people we had previously lined up to kill him is also scummy. Given what I just read and gonzaw's last post I'm down with killing him. I don't want rastaban to shoot though. I think we need to have payl or someone like that shoot since it seems like gonzaw really doesn't want them involved. | ||
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