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On June 13 2012 07:15 Toadesstern wrote:
What about shooting payle instead of gonzaw?
If he's truely a DT I can live with him being alive and mafia can't because they don't want him to get more checks because the moment we see his flip we know wether or not we can trust him.
If he's mafia and survives n1 we shoot him tomorrow?
I like this plan a lot, and with him being macho there isn't even WIFOM on if he is protected. I am guessing they won't hit him either way, but it gives us another check the moment he flips tomorrow.
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ok everyone needs to hold their shit. Let's sit down now and decide if we believe gonzaw's claim. Then we decide who kills him. It won't be rastaban because at this point we already have three or four people who we really need to take a shot ahead of him. If we just move on to rastaban then they will be problems for future days. Let's not put this off and get it right on the first time.
gonzaw why were you all gungho about shooting n0 when you didn't even have a gun? That's the part I'm having a hard time with.
If we decide not to kill gonzaw then I think we should kill payl.
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On June 13 2012 07:20 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 07:15 Toadesstern wrote:
What about shooting payle instead of gonzaw?
If he's truely a DT I can live with him being alive and mafia can't because they don't want him to get more checks because the moment we see his flip we know wether or not we can trust him.
If he's mafia and survives n1 we shoot him tomorrow? I like this plan a lot, and with him being macho there isn't even WIFOM on if he is protected. I am guessing they won't hit him either way, but it gives us another check the moment he flips tomorrow.
exactly. Noone protects him and he either dies or he doesn't,
If he does we get another check that may or may not be bullshit but we kill him the next day and know wether or not we can trust his checks.
What's the reasoning for knowing you can't be naive gonzaw?
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On June 13 2012 07:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why, by your estimation, was supersoft someone you "thought would get shot overnight" gonzaw?
I saw him play on LV (I think?) and he seemed pretty good as town, and I think scum would have known that.
He's also a "vet", making him an obvious shot N0.
I was thinking to check these:
-supersoft
-wbg
-Toad
-VE
-Meapak
I was trouble thinking about supersoft or wbg...but after wbg started to troll and play retardedly I didn't want to risk wbg actually being scum and not getting shot at night so I choose supersoft.
On June 13 2012 07:15 Toadesstern wrote:
What about shooting payle instead of gonzaw?
If he's truely a DT I can live with him being alive and mafia can't because they don't want him to get more checks because the moment we see his flip we know wether or not we can trust him.
If he's mafia and survives n1 we shoot him tomorrow?
This is the shitstorm I was talking about
*cue everybody shitting on each other whether they let me live only because of my claim or not*
Oh, I'm also getting RBed tonight.
Anyways, case on rastaban coming up...
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On June 13 2012 07:23 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 07:20 rastaban wrote:On June 13 2012 07:15 Toadesstern wrote:
What about shooting payle instead of gonzaw?
If he's truely a DT I can live with him being alive and mafia can't because they don't want him to get more checks because the moment we see his flip we know wether or not we can trust him.
If he's mafia and survives n1 we shoot him tomorrow? I like this plan a lot, and with him being macho there isn't even WIFOM on if he is protected. I am guessing they won't hit him either way, but it gives us another check the moment he flips tomorrow. exactly. Noone protects him and he either dies or he doesn't, If he does we get another check that may or may not be bullshit but we kill him the next day and know wether or not we can trust his checks. What's the reasoning for knowing you can't be naive gonzaw?
I like this as well. Gonzaw's breadcrumb makes sense and as long as supersoft isn't like "lol I'm actually not green" I'm inclined to believe the claim for now or at the very least let him live through the night.
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guys, gonzaw is definitely scum. Look at supersoft's filter up until the end of night 0. It has NO CONTENT. In fact it only has supersoft being confused about the setup.
Seriously look at it. Tell me how gonzaw thought scum would shoot supersoft.
On June 13 2012 07:08 gonzaw wrote:
I thought scum would try to shoot supersoft last night, so I checked him hoping to get a green check if he died (thus confirm me as Sane if I was).
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On June 13 2012 07:23 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 07:20 rastaban wrote:On June 13 2012 07:15 Toadesstern wrote:
What about shooting payle instead of gonzaw?
If he's truely a DT I can live with him being alive and mafia can't because they don't want him to get more checks because the moment we see his flip we know wether or not we can trust him.
If he's mafia and survives n1 we shoot him tomorrow? I like this plan a lot, and with him being macho there isn't even WIFOM on if he is protected. I am guessing they won't hit him either way, but it gives us another check the moment he flips tomorrow. exactly. Noone protects him and he either dies or he doesn't, 1.If he does we get another check that may or may not be bullshit but we kill him the next day and know wether or not we can trust his checks. 2.What's the reasoning for knowing you can't be naive gonzaw? [/red]
1. I'll get RBed
2. It's in the OP and I asked Ace for confirmation.
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Like at the end of N0, did any of you think scum might shoot supersoft?
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Ah right, if there's a RB gonzaw will live for an eternity either way.
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Actually wait about the RB. We started with n0. Did anyone claim being rb'ed ?
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Also according to the OP he could still be naive. It says all roles could be there in a different form.
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On June 13 2012 07:26 marvellosity wrote:
Like at the end of N0, did any of you think scum might shoot supersoft?
He was being retarded on purpose most likely. Considering his status I don't see why he couldn't have been shot, specially after his whole "If I was VT I'd like that....am I VT? Maybe I am maybe I'm not" thing that to me basically seemed him taunting scum to shoot him.
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On June 13 2012 07:27 Toadesstern wrote:
Actually wait about the RB. We started with n0. Did anyone claim being rb'ed ?
wherebugsgo claimed RBed
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On June 13 2012 07:28 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 07:27 Toadesstern wrote:
Actually wait about the RB. We started with n0. Did anyone claim being rb'ed ? wherebugsgo claimed RBed
So if you are Rbed, no one else better claim to have been RBed.
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On June 13 2012 07:26 marvellosity wrote:
Like at the end of N0, did any of you think scum might shoot supersoft?
I'm not going to argue that supersoft is a very odd target for a check if you're hoping that check dies. However his breadcrumb is fairly apparent and I'm not too keen about killing our DT with our first "lynch." Again, baring supersoft calling bullshit I think we should give gonzaw a chance.
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He can't fake a breadcrumb? Look at how much trouble he was in when he made it. Go back and read the thread (this isn't me being aggressive, just asking you to do so)
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On June 13 2012 07:26 marvellosity wrote:
Like at the end of N0, did any of you think scum might shoot supersoft?
I considered it to be a possibility, but more like #4 or #5 in line.
Our dead smurf was who I guess whould be shot or 2 other guys I don't want to mention right now. With RoL attacking me n0 and me attacking RoL I didn't really expect mafia to shoot me though.
Not sure if I hate the RB think though. Even if Gonzaw gets RB'ed until the end of eternity we deny mafia that RB 100% for the rest of the game because the moment we get a counterclaim by someone else being RB'ed he's dead, so even if he's mafia they lost their RB-PR while we might still shoot him something like d3.
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Yeah the breadcrumb is a total null, that should not be alignment indicating at all. Any mafia player can do that without a problem.
However I don't know if we really have to risk that when we have someone like payle around, or Risk.
On the other hand Gonzaw is useless now that he claimed. No "vote", no lynch, no gun, no night action due to the RB.
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He's not useless, he's scum.
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