Match Making Rating Tool - Page 37

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

June 07 2012 12:21 GMT

#721

On June 07 2012 13:37 Not_That wrote:

No. There's something different this season. At first the in-game and on the web page bonus points kept increasing, even though the players could only use 720. Now it seems Blizzard fixed the in game display to be no more than 720, but the webpage is at 733 atm (EU) and rising (with 720 actually usable by players).

So long as the web page bonus pool keeps increasing, we just need to be aware that players who used up 720 bonus points are actually at 0, for algorithm B.

wasnt that what we expected? the web bonuspool cant be used so i just cap totalbonuspool at 720 and problem solved.

On June 07 2012 15:33 eac wrote:
On mac, I have the following error log:

+ Show Spoiler +

23:21:11 MMR-Stats 3.6.2
23:21:11 --------INIT START--------
23:21:11 OK Data-Settings loaded!
23:21:11 ERROR No Data Found! Time to ladder...
23:21:11 OK Database loaded!
23:21:11 DB Version:7.2
23:21:11 OK DB up to date!
23:21:11 FATALERROR 64 Bit Java detected! Diable Memoryscanner...
23:21:11 Pls use a 32Bit version of JVM to use the Memoryscanner
23:21:11 OK Triggers ready!
23:21:11 FATALERROR Gameobserver: Failed, cant read windows registry!
23:21:11 OK Encoding: UTF-8 is avalable on this System
23:21:11 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 0 sec
23:21:11 OK: Program is up to date
23:21:11 --------INIT END--------

I couldn't figure out how to copy-paste from said program, so I had to retype it. I believe it's character-for-character identical, though.

I ran SC2Gears as both admin and normal user and the same thing happened. I'm in bronze league, and I'm aware that that means I may not have particularly useful data for a while. I played several games with it on, with SC2 started through SC2Gears. There is no registry, and especially not a windows registry, on a mac, so I was somewhat surprised to read you say in post 9 that it uses no system dependent functions.

You may also be surprised to hear that every time you write 'hole,' you actually mean 'whole'; 'hole' is something you dig in the ground.

im sorry but i the razor nterface i have to use to find gamestarts cant handle mac, you should still get data with only posttrigger, but not so much.

On June 07 2012 17:04 Insane wrote:
The ramscanner doesn't work on mac. (from the help section: "-The ramscanner and the Registry reader only works on windows!")

Also, I finally got my bronze account out of playing bronzies. After 50 games, I'm playing silvers.

seems like a bug! webserver, calculate the bonuspool on even if hes locked for spend.
I thought he only does this for spend. Have to update the version

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

June 07 2012 13:39 GMT

#722

Have a bug in the calculation.
Data is wrong until fixed and have some rl stuff to do
will uplaod later

the_lunatic

5 Posts

June 07 2012 14:46 GMT

#723

On June 07 2012 10:27 skeldark wrote:

I can not read the windows registry to detect the gamestart...
CU - Software - Razer - Starcraft2
Do you have this folder and do i have access to read it?

Yes I have that folder in my registry. All values are set to zero except APM.

How would I check access? Under permissions every user is allowed read it.

Oh and the post-trigger just seems to permanently be running after games.

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

June 07 2012 17:11 GMT

#724

On June 07 2012 23:46 the_lunatic wrote:

Show nested quote +

i will give you more verbose output in next version so we chan check what exactly failes in regestry
Posttrigger runs for 1min -2 min

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

June 07 2012 18:08 GMT

#725

Important:
There is a bug on the webserver with the session lock.
Data that was collected before this version in the session lock is wrong... Sorry, not my fault.

Download: MMR-Calculator V.3.7.1

I filter all bad data on our end when the session is over so you guys can requeest a clean gamefile off all your games from me for session 7!

AmericanUmlaut

Germany2572 Posts

June 07 2012 20:10 GMT

#726

I'm getting very strange behavior:

Any ideas?

My account is http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/546126/1/Capybara/, I'd be happy to send over my log if that would be helpful to you. Until the last couple of games, everything was working fine, MMR was being tracked more or less as I would have expected. This massive drop in my MMR came after just one game. I started SC2Gears mid-game, and I have memory-reading turned on, is it possible this screwed up the triggers somehow?

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

June 07 2012 20:29 GMT

#727

On June 08 2012 05:10 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
I'm getting very strange behavior:

i checked the data but cant find the broken game....
even if you screwed it up it should not count this game as valid data because its obvious not.
Can you give me the log from this game?
if its not in the tool anymore you find the log file in
Sc2gears\User Content\Plugin file cache\mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin\log.txt

You can use the new dataeditor to remove the game
config - data -dataeditor

BTW
You can get a picture easy by rightclick on graph and choose print. Also average dont show me much ^^

AmericanUmlaut

Germany2572 Posts

June 07 2012 20:50 GMT

#728

+ Show Spoiler [log] +

21:46:16 --------------------------
21:46:16 Game Start detected
21:46:16 Ramscanner: name1 : Ð§ÐµÐ”Ð°ÐšÐ°Ðº
21:46:16 Ramscanner: id1 : 2-197724
21:46:16 Ramscanner: name2 : Capybara
21:46:16 Ramscanner: id2 : 1-546126
21:46:16 OK Found Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles!
21:46:21 Webgrabber Player true
21:46:26 ERROR Webgrabber: Cant catch Site 1 giveup!
21:46:26 Webgrabber Opponent false
21:46:26 PRE-Trigger done
21:58:48 Webgrabber Player true
21:58:56 ERROR Webgrabber: Cant catch Site 3 giveup!
21:58:56 Webgrabber Opponent false
21:58:56 DATA Alg.B: failed, No Bonus Win
21:58:56 A 12 B -9999

21:58:56
21:58:56 Adjused Calculate Player:true
21:58:56 ERROR Start with bad player
21:58:56 Adjused Calculate Opponent: false
21:58:56 Gamecheck: true
21:58:56 PREPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
id: 546126
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/546126/1/Capybara/
server: EU
league: diamond
division_name: Nargil Gravity
gamedate: 7/6/2012
mapname: Korhal Compound LE
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: 161
Looses: -9999
points: 714
bonus: 325
change_points: -13
adjusted_points: 319
PLAYEREND

21:58:56 PREPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: false ---
id: 197724
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/197724/2/Ð§ÐµÐ”Ð°ÐšÐ°Ðº /
server: EU
league: ERROR2
division_name: ERROR3
gamedate: ERROR
mapname: ERROR
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999
PLAYEREND

21:58:56 POSTPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
id: 546126
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/546126/1/Capybara/
server: EU
league: diamond
division_name: Nargil Gravity
gamedate: 7/6/2012
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: 162
Looses: -9999
points: 726
bonus: 325
change_points: 12
adjusted_points: 331
PLAYEREND

21:58:56 POSTPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
id: 197724
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/197724/2/ЧеДаКак/
server: EU
league: diamond
division_name: Duke Epsilon
gamedate: 7/6/2012
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -12
adjusted_points: -9999
PLAYEREND

21:58:56 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1339099138668
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

21:58:56 POST-Trigger done
22:3:48 MMR-Stats 3.7.1
22:3:48 --------INIT START--------
22:3:48 OK Data-Settings loaded!
22:3:48 OK Gamedata: 63 Games loaded.
22:3:48 OK Database loaded!
22:3:48 DB Version:7.4
22:3:49 OK DB up to date!
22:3:49 OK Ramscanner ready!
22:3:49 OK Triggers ready!
22:3:50 OK Gameobserver: ready!
22:3:50 OK Encoding: UTF-8 is avalable on this System
22:3:50 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 1 sec
22:3:51 OK: Program is up to date
22:3:51 --------INIT END--------
22:11:45 --------------------------
22:11:45 Game Start detected
22:11:45 Ramscanner: name1 : Capybara
22:11:45 Ramscanner: id1 : 1-546126
22:11:45 Ramscanner: name2 : FluiÃEra
22:11:45 Ramscanner: id2 : 1-1079497
22:11:45 OK Found Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles!
22:12

Webgrabber Player true
22:12:15 ERROR Webgrabber: Cant catch Site 1 giveup!
22:12:15 Webgrabber Opponent false
22:12:15 PRE-Trigger done
22:24:41 Webgrabber Player true
22:24:50 ERROR Webgrabber: Cant catch Site 3 giveup!
22:24:50 Webgrabber Opponent false
22:24:50 A -7 B -7

22:24:50
22:24:50 Adjused Calculate Player:true
22:24:50 ERROR Start with bad player
22:24:50 Adjused Calculate Opponent: false
22:24:50 Gamecheck: true
22:24:50 PREPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
id: 546126
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/546126/1/Capybara/
server: EU
league: diamond
division_name: Nargil Gravity
gamedate: 7/6/2012
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: 162
Looses: -9999
points: 726
bonus: 303
change_points: 12
adjusted_points: 309
PLAYEREND

22:24:50 PREPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: false ---
id: 1079497
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1079497/1/FluiÃEra /
server: EU
league: ERROR2
division_name: ERROR3
gamedate: ERROR
mapname: ERROR
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -10021
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999
PLAYEREND

22:24:50 POSTPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: false ---
id: 546126
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/546126/1/Capybara/
server: EU
league: diamond
division_name: Nargil Gravity
gamedate: 7/6/2012
mapname: Ohana LE
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: 162
Looses: -9999
points: 719
bonus: 303
change_points: -7
adjusted_points: 302
PLAYEREND

22:24:50 POSTPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
id: 1079497
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1079497/1/FluiÐEra/
server: EU
league: master
division_name: Torus Delta
gamedate: 7/6/2012
mapname: Ohana LE
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -10021
change_points: 14
adjusted_points: -9999
PLAYEREND

22:24:50 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1339100692834
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won false
--- GAMEEND ---

22:24:50 POST-Trigger done
22:3:48 MMR-Stats 3.7.1
22:3:48 --------INIT START--------
22:3:48 OK Data-Settings loaded!
22:3:48 OK Gamedata: 63 Games loaded.
22:3:48 OK Database loaded!
22:3:48 DB Version:7.4
22:3:49 OK DB up to date!
22:3:49 OK Ramscanner ready!
22:3:49 OK Triggers ready!
22:3:50 OK Gameobserver: ready!
22:3:50 OK Encoding: UTF-8 is avalable on this System
22:3:50 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 1 sec
22:3:51 OK: Program is up to date
22:3:51 --------INIT END--------
22:11:45 --------------------------
22:11:45 Game Start detected
22:11:45 Ramscanner: name1 : Capybara
22:11:45 Ramscanner: id1 : 1-546126
22:11:45 Ramscanner: name2 : FluiÃEra
22:11:45 Ramscanner: id2 : 1-1079497
22:11:45 OK Found Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles!
22:12

Webgrabber Player true
22:12:15 ERROR Webgrabber: Cant catch Site 1 giveup!
22:12:15 Webgrabber Opponent false
22:12:15 PRE-Trigger done
22:24:41 Webgrabber Player true
22:24:50 ERROR Webgrabber: Cant catch Site 3 giveup!
22:24:50 Webgrabber Opponent false
22:24:50 A -7 B -7

22:24:50
22:24:50 Adjused Calculate Player:true
22:24:50 ERROR Start with bad player
22:24:50 Adjused Calculate Opponent: false
22:24:50 Gamecheck: true
22:24:50 PREPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
id: 546126
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/546126/1/Capybara/
server: EU
league: diamond
division_name: Nargil Gravity
gamedate: 7/6/2012
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: 162
Looses: -9999
points: 726
bonus: 303
change_points: 12
adjusted_points: 309
PLAYEREND

22:24:50 PREPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: false ---
id: 1079497
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1079497/1/FluiÃEra /
server: EU
league: ERROR2
division_name: ERROR3
gamedate: ERROR
mapname: ERROR
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -10021
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999
PLAYEREND

22:24:50 POSTPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: false ---
id: 546126
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/546126/1/Capybara/
server: EU
league: diamond
division_name: Nargil Gravity
gamedate: 7/6/2012
mapname: Ohana LE
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: 162
Looses: -9999
points: 719
bonus: 303
change_points: -7
adjusted_points: 302
PLAYEREND

22:24:50 POSTPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
id: 1079497
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1079497/1/FluiÐEra/
server: EU
league: master
division_name: Torus Delta
gamedate: 7/6/2012
mapname: Ohana LE
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -10021
change_points: 14
adjusted_points: -9999
PLAYEREND

22:24:50 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1339100692834
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won false
--- GAMEEND ---

22:24:50 POST-Trigger done
22:24:51 <FONT COLOR="005500">OK Good Game!</font>
22:24:52 OK Uploader: game uploaded
22:24:52 Ladder Game Done!
22:24:52 --------------------------

I've included the first two games I played. I thought the problem was from the first game, but the values in the second game with FluidEra look very wrong, so I suspect that's the one causing the problem.

Sorry about leaving the averaging on when I made the screenshot, I'll turn it off in the future

.

Edit: Nope, it was the first one with the guy with the completely non-ASCII name. I've left both games in the spoiler, though, since the second one still looked so strange.

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

June 07 2012 20:56 GMT

#729

see the problem in frist game.
THe opponent is wrong because the webgrabbing failed.
But he dont mark him as wrong. BUT he show the error message that he is wrong.
And if he show the error message he mark him directly after but he did not.
So i see what happend but not why, because this situation should be impossible oO

Found the solution!
your version!
this version was bugged and only online for 5 min until i realised the mistake!
Should not happen again.

ALSO looks like i can not handle russian names.
Looks like the bib of sc2gears can handle all names i will ask the creator which bib he use.

Thank you very much

AmericanUmlaut

Germany2572 Posts

June 07 2012 21:15 GMT

#730

On June 08 2012 05:56 skeldark wrote:
see the problem in frist game.
THe opponent is wrong because the webgrabbing failed.
But he dont mark him as wrong. BUT he show the error message that he is wrong.
And if he show the error message he mark him directly after but he did not.
So i see what happend but not why, because this situation should be impossible oO

Found the solution!
your version!
please update this version was bugged and only online for 5 min until i realised the mistake!
DId you see the update me message? had problems with this one too

ALSO looks like i can not handle russian names.
Looks like the bib of sc2gears can handle all names i will ask the creator which bib he use.

Thank you very much

Glad I could help

. I did update to the most recent version, but I didn't do it right away today. Everything seems to be working okay now, thanks so much for your help!

fapy

Australia52 Posts

June 08 2012 06:15 GMT

#731

Edit 2: Started doing it again with a lot bigger numbers, lost 150 and then 200 points.

Edit: After playing another game it seems to of fixed itself, reducing the points lost from 60 to about 20.

After winning my last 3 games I check my MMR and this happens;

https://imgur.com/07njU

Lost 50 points and then 60 the game afterwards.

Not sure if the logs include those games, but here they are.

Normal Log
+ Show Spoiler +

15:10:57 MMR-Stats 3.7.1
15:10:57 --------INIT START--------
15:10:57 OK Data-Settings loaded!
15:10:57 OK Gamedata: 58 Games loaded.
15:10:57 OK Database loaded!
15:10:57 DB Version:7.4
15:10:59 OK DB up to date!
15:10:59 OK Triggers ready!
15:11:0 OK Gameobserver: ready!
15:11:0 OK Encoding: UTF-8 is avalable on this System
15:11:0 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: -3 sec
15:11:1 OK: Program is up to date
15:11:1 --------INIT END--------
15:23:55 --------------------------
15:23:55 Game Start detected
15:24:22 Webgrabber Player true
15:24:22 No Profile, skip
15:24:22 Webgrabber Opponent false
15:24:22 PRE-Trigger done
15:43:43 --------------------------
15:43:43 Game Start detected
15:44

Webgrabber Player true
15:44

No Profile, skip
15:44

Webgrabber Opponent false
15:44

PRE-Trigger done
16:2:6 Webgrabber Player true
16:2:10 Webgrabber Opponent true
16:2:10 DATA Alg.B: failed, No Bonus Win
16:2:10 Adjused Calculate Player:true
16:2:10 Adjused Calculate Opponent: true
16:2:10 Gamecheck: true
16:2:10 POST-Trigger done
16:2:10 OK Good Game!
16:2:12 OK Uploader: game uploaded 1
6:2:12 Ladder Game Done!
16:2:12 --------------------------

Game Log
+ Show Spoiler +

16:2:10 A 12 B -9999

16:2:10
16:2:10 A -9999 B -14

16:2:10
16:2:10 PREPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
id: 2922357
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2922357/1/fapy/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Kalathi Mars
gamedate: 6/8/2012
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: 79
Looses: -9999
points: 615
bonus: 303
change_points: 9
adjusted_points: 198
PLAYEREND

16:2:10 PREPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: false ---
id:
playerlink:
server:
league: ERROR
division_name: ERROR
gamedate: ERROR
mapname: ERROR
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -10034
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -20753
PLAYEREND

16:2:10 POSTPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
id: 2922357
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2922357/1/fapy/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Kalathi Mars
gamedate: 6/8/2012
mapname: Shakuras Plateau
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: 80
Looses: -9999
points: 627
bonus: 303
change_points: 12
adjusted_points: 210
PLAYEREND

16:2:10 POSTPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
id: 2134490
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2134490/1/Aquadre/
server: US
league: master
division_name: Shiloh Sierra
gamedate: 6/8/2012
mapname: Shakuras Plateau
totalbonuspool: 720
Wins: 140
Looses: 124
points: 676
bonus: 4
change_points: -14
adjusted_points: -40
PLAYEREND

16:2:10 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1339135327106
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

Game

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

June 08 2012 12:17 GMT

#732

On June 08 2012 15:15 fapy wrote:
Edit 2: Started doing it again with a lot bigger numbers, lost 150 and then 200 points.

Edit: After playing another game it seems to of fixed itself, reducing the points lost from 60 to about 20.

After winning my last 3 games I check my MMR and this happens;

https://imgur.com/07njU

Lost 50 points and then 60 the game afterwards.

Not sure if the logs include those games, but here they are.

Normal Log
+ Show Spoiler +

Webgrabber Player true
15:44

No Profile, skip
15:44

Webgrabber Opponent false
15:44

Game Log
+ Show Spoiler +

the games are fine. The tier guess is not.
D+ is in general better than B
But you played against a Master. This disable the cap and also adjust the points around.
Basicly if you enable D+ not B the master game is the game with the best accuracy and he take this one to judge the games around.
B+ allways take the 1 game in a row to judge the rest .
However D+ filter caped games and have less data. Perhaps its Time to remove B.
The problem is if you dont play many games and dont ahve ramscanner you will not see much on D
But you should have enough games.
BTW: this master player would get demoted allready if the league would not be locked.

fapy

Australia52 Posts

June 08 2012 12:57 GMT

#733

On June 08 2012 21:17 skeldark wrote:

Show nested quote +

Alright I turned on ram scanner and switched to D+. Thanks for the help and for making this awesome tool!

Malhavoc

Italy308 Posts

June 08 2012 18:35 GMT

#734

I've got v3.7.2 installed, and it keeps telling me to update.. I do, re-start, and the version is still that, and it still tells me to udpate ;(

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

June 08 2012 18:43 GMT

#735

On June 09 2012 03:35 Malhavoc wrote:
I've got v3.7.2 installed, and it keeps telling me to update.. I do, re-start, and the version is still that, and it still tells me to udpate ;(

sorry uploaded 3.7.2 and forgot about it ^^

version trigger corrected
changelog:
can handle all kind of strange nicknames now

SDream

Brazil896 Posts

June 08 2012 19:56 GMT

#736

Ok, I sux at massing games, I don't have the stamina.

I am still fighting plats and winning 23-24 points EVERY game, i don't have more bonus pool left. It will take forever to get into the 12/-12 games, I will probably not do it till Wednesday, probably not even close ;_;

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

June 08 2012 20:10 GMT

#737

On June 09 2012 04:56 SDream wrote:
Ok, I sux at massing games, I don't have the stamina.

I am still fighting plats and winning 23-24 points EVERY game, i don't have more bonus pool left. It will take forever to get into the 12/-12 games, I will probably not do it till Wednesday, probably not even close ;_;

yeah check above. 50 games just to get out of bronce with 100% wins,
The system adept realy slow...

AKomrade

United States582 Posts

June 08 2012 22:19 GMT

#738

What are the differences between A+D, A+B+ and the "no" options? I understand that A+D and A+B use data differently, but why? And why is the DMMR 1/3 of my AD/AB MMR?

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

June 08 2012 22:49 GMT

#739

On June 09 2012 07:19 AKomrade wrote:
What are the differences between A+D, A+B+ and the "no" options? I understand that A+D and A+B use data differently, but why? And why is the DMMR 1/3 of my AD/AB MMR?

They are diffrent algorithem to analyse the opponent tier.
Dmmr is without analyse so without + tier. it can be 1/3 for you but not for others.

Dmmr is devision mmr . the mmr in your tier.
MMR is indipendent from your tier or league.
To calulate mmr from dmmr, i have to know whats your opponent tier to add his offset
How to find out the tieroffsets is a very complicated diffrent story.

Here is an old post that tells you how my analyser work. Its kind of outdated but it explain the basics:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334561&currentpage=30#595

i will remove b+ soon. Its outdated. I only have it in so you have something to look at if you dont have enough games yet for algo. D+

AKomrade

United States582 Posts

June 08 2012 23:05 GMT

#740

On June 09 2012 07:49 skeldark wrote:

Show nested quote +

They are diffrent algorithem to analyse the opponent tier.
Dmmr is without analyse so without + tier. it can be 1/3 for you but not for others.

Dmmr is devision mmr . the mmr in your tier.
MMR is indipendent from your tier or league.
To calulate mmr from dmmr, i have to know whats your tier to add your tieroffset.
How to find out the tieroffsets is a very complicated diffrent story.

Here is an old post that tells you how my analyser work. Its kind of outdated but it explain the basics:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334561&currentpage=30#595

i will remove b+ soon. Its outdated. I only have it in so you have something to look at if you dont have enough games yet for algo. D+

Thanks!

So DMMR scales only inside your division while A/D account for outside leagues as well? I'm a masters player (after season reset, I'll send my data to you), so there is only one tier, right?

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