EPTYou're voting for darkfire even though the mafia is OBVIOULY trying to frame him and because he hasn't defended himself? What in the world?
(If you others actually band wagon darkfire I might consider ending my own life on day 3 TT!)
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Anacletus
United States733 Posts
You're voting for darkfire even though the mafia is OBVIOULY trying to frame him and because he hasn't defended himself? What in the world? (If you others actually band wagon darkfire I might consider ending my own life on day 3 TT!) | ||
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Mufaa
219 Posts
Going through the thread and filters now. I'll get a post up soon. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On December 30 2010 01:30 LSB wrote: What is mafia Bandwagoning- This is a town trait too That's right, whipping out old posts from one of the guides in the OP. I voted my strongest read D1, and I stand by it. Brood flipped town, that blows. Going to vote my strongest read D2. That read may change if something convincing comes up, but right now it hasn't. But I don't think all this talk of musical groups and horse-drawn transportation gets us anywhere. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but we can't no-lynch this game, Also, Darkfire HAS the scummiest play to me. I'm not voting because he's "being framed." I'm voting because of the same concerns I had before - I found his contributions during the you/Brood debates to be off. I find his comments after D1 and N1 to be off. I don't see anything of substance in his posts. He recently claims to be looking into Mufaa and dahdum, but again, all he did was quote someone else's post on Mufaa, and I don't see any sort of "looking into" on dahdum. He hasn't been helpful to town. He hasn't explained why. He's stated that he is doing something, but doesn't deliver. If you think I'm hopping on board because Darkfire is being "framed," who is framing him? I referenced Shiao's suspicions, yes. But I also referenced my own -- + Show Spoiler + On May 13 2012 07:41 austinmcc wrote: Assorted thoughts: ... Darkfire. Others have already mentioned this. As votes are coming in on Anac, says it's a "weak bandwagon," with weak reasoning behind it. An hour and a half later, drops his vote on Anac. Now finds Anac scummiest. Then he defends Brood, saying he wants "more posts" from one of the more active players at that point and time (based purely on filter length). At night, we get this: + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 11:32 Darkfirex5 wrote: I guess no one listened to me about the switch of the bandwagon with no solid evidence compared to the "safer" bet with Anacletus, I'll be going over the people who switch vote, i gtg for now but i believe i saw a mafia group bandwagoning to get it started. <-- ill be looking into that I have no idea what to make of that. He didn't think anac was scum until anac's self-vote, then decided anac was the safest/safer lynch? Complains about no solid evidence on Brood, but again, I think the evidence DID look bad for Brood. And if it didn't, what good evidence was there on Anac? Also, just very, very focused on bandwagoning in general, mentioning it a LOT. It's not necessarily a bad thing, and I still believe that at the end of D1, Brood looked the scummiest. Me, I read Shiao's death as eliminating one of the more vocal townies who was presenting a lot of reads. I was actually a little suspicious of his play before he flipped, but his flip tells me that he was actually just a vocal townie trying to push reads and get discussion going. Until I've got any evidence otherwise, I'm going to assume that he was taken out for being a townie who was participating and trying to make progress, not for any convoluted master plan on the part of the mafia team. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
FirmTofu, Unforgiven, Mufaa, you guys have all said you're looking through filters, reading up. Any thoughts? | ||
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Mufaa
219 Posts
Strongest reads for me so far are Dahdum and Darkfire. Dahdum + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2012 15:18 dahdum wrote: I'm on this wagon, for BKE's reason and the "I hope you aren't mafia" statement. Let's hear more from you Firm. ##Vote FirmTofu Dahdum's Early Game posts stood out to me. First he votes Tofu off of his early post to break the ice and a reason BKE prodivded. No content of his own really yet. Later on he says that he knows FirmTofu's style better than anyone else "We were in the last game together so I also have a better sense of his style than I do of the rest of you." To me this comes off a lot like Dahdum is either trying to establish his authority on FirmTofu so he can make a push on him later (Dahdum possibly scum in this case) or defend him (Possible scum buddies). + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 05:16 dahdum wrote: I'm at work so can't respond fully, but Tofu's response is reasonable and in line with what I expect from him as Town. So I am jumping on this new wagon, because reasons. ##Unvote ##Vote Anacletus On May 11 2012 06:58 dahdum wrote: Actually I believe I said because reasons. If we never get any wagons going, we never pressure mafia into having to take a vote/stance. I'm at work so I can't write long explanations, but since I 100% want somebody to die today, I'm fine voting for whomever the current scummiest is. No-lynch is not an option. These two quotes are what originally got me checking into Dahdum. First he votes for Anac saying "because reasons." He might as well post "because I feel like it" at that point. Then when he is called out on stating his reasoning as "because" he says "I said because reasons." There is absolutely no benefit for town by playing like this. Then he does explain his reasons for wanting bandwagons in general, butJailbreaker was asking about his reasons for the Anac bandwagon. His only other content is a bandwagon jump to BKE and a very weak case on BioSC. Darkfirex5 My suspicions of him aren't as strong, but I still have a few things I'm curious about. + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2012 13:10 Darkfirex5 wrote: Well, might as well get started first game :3 I'm questioning why do you speak about town in third person as if you are speaking as if town isnt including yourself, so im asking why are you not using "we" and refering to town as a "they." Also you are justifying killing town just because they arent active, a vote helps even if they are a lurker, its another person who can still vote and help kill off all of the mafia. He's suspicious of BioSC, who says town/they instead of us/we. While this is something of note while building a case it isn't enough to build a case on its own. + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 06:43 Darkfirex5 wrote: sorry im a student so i have school, currently i think this is a weak bandwagon forming on Anacletus. While his defense is weak: Yet the first person to begin the voting on Anacletus was Hyaach, his reasoning seemed just as weak: The start of this "bandwagon" is begining to form off of this, though Anacletus did have a poor response which made him more suspicious the voting on him lacks solid reasoning. I bolded the part im talking about (didnt cut out any as to take something out of context^). Another thing now is that Tofu anounces the role of being a townie, and the reason (supposidly) why Anacletus targeted him was because he knew he was town (because he was mafia)? Now im questioning then why did he target you (tofu) only because you were town. Why initiate like that on a post that seemed insignifigant. I'm building suspicion on the reasoning for starting this bandwagon on Anacletus. Im still not placing a vote down yet but the starting reasonings for the votes lacks evidence and the follow up points (to me dont seem solid). Lastly: I was refering to why you said town gets a nice snipe instead of we are geting a nice snipe, i was only adding on some slight pressure on the begining, which was similar to other posts. The way you get very defensive and attack my one post only asking about your reference to town/mafia. FOS: BioSc From your posts folowing, i think less of you as being mafia, and more so townie, that doesnt mean i wont continue keeping an eye on you too. Now take this massive post Darkfire "contributed." The first 3/4 of it are on how this is a weak bandwagon case on Anac, with the last 1/4 on a wording dispute. From there he posts mostly fluff until this gem. On May 13 2012 12:30 Darkfirex5 wrote: well now we have a lot to work with at least, i guess ShiaoPi was onto something, time to avenge him :D How do you know ShiaoPi was on to something? Austin and Anac both offered easy suggestions to why the mafia voted the way they did other than that they wanted to silence the person was closest to discovering them (Silencing vocal townies to stiffle discussion,attempting to frame the people on his list, etc...). Why should we believe this was just a careless post and not a slip? | ||
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Mufaa
219 Posts
Darkfirex5 My suspicions of him aren't as strong, but I still have a few things I'm curious about. + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2012 13:10 Darkfirex5 wrote: Well, might as well get started first game :3 I'm questioning why do you speak about town in third person as if you are speaking as if town isnt including yourself, so im asking why are you not using "we" and refering to town as a "they." Also you are justifying killing town just because they arent active, a vote helps even if they are a lurker, its another person who can still vote and help kill off all of the mafia. He's suspicious of BioSC, who says town/they instead of us/we. While this is something of note while building a case it isn't enough to build a case on its own. + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 06:43 Darkfirex5 wrote: sorry im a student so i have school, currently i think this is a weak bandwagon forming on Anacletus. While his defense is weak: Yet the first person to begin the voting on Anacletus was Hyaach, his reasoning seemed just as weak: The start of this "bandwagon" is begining to form off of this, though Anacletus did have a poor response which made him more suspicious the voting on him lacks solid reasoning. I bolded the part im talking about (didnt cut out any as to take something out of context^). Another thing now is that Tofu anounces the role of being a townie, and the reason (supposidly) why Anacletus targeted him was because he knew he was town (because he was mafia)? Now im questioning then why did he target you (tofu) only because you were town. Why initiate like that on a post that seemed insignifigant. I'm building suspicion on the reasoning for starting this bandwagon on Anacletus. Im still not placing a vote down yet but the starting reasonings for the votes lacks evidence and the follow up points (to me dont seem solid). Lastly: I was refering to why you said town gets a nice snipe instead of we are geting a nice snipe, i was only adding on some slight pressure on the begining, which was similar to other posts. The way you get very defensive and attack my one post only asking about your reference to town/mafia. FOS: BioSc From your posts folowing, i think less of you as being mafia, and more so townie, that doesnt mean i wont continue keeping an eye on you too. Now take this massive post Darkfire "contributed." The first 3/4 of it are on how this is a weak bandwagon case on Anac, with the last 1/4 on a wording dispute. This would be ok with me, except that he voted for Anac and never switched off of him. From there he posts mostly fluff until this gem. On May 13 2012 12:30 Darkfirex5 wrote: well now we have a lot to work with at least, i guess ShiaoPi was onto something, time to avenge him :D How do you know ShiaoPi was on to something? Austin and Anac both offered easy suggestions to why the mafia voted the way they did other than that they wanted to silence the person was closest to discovering them (Silencing vocal townies to stiffle discussion,attempting to frame the people on his list, etc...). Why should we believe this was just a careless post and not a slip? The others I'm less suspicious of but I do have some questions for them I want to ask: BioSC- All game you've been defending yourself from reads people put on you, but your defense is always "I'm not doing mafia things, your read is invalid" or something along those lines. I'd be a lot more likely to believe you if you had contributed to finding scum at all instead of just defending yourself. Who do you think is most likely to be scum and what do you have to back it up? Hyaach- I've noticed you voted for Anac without much of an explination and you tunneled him through day1. Since then you've said you're suspicious of people but instead of providing cases, you never follow up or ask other people for their opinions on the matter. Somewhat suspicious to me and I'll be watching this. Crossfire- I'm not sure what I think of him yet. His reason for not switching to BKE was pretty solid but since then his only case has been on me for not leading a lynch on a townie when there were 2hrs left in d1. Would like to see some more content. FirmTofu- You jumped on the BKE lynch after austinmcc's post where he says "I think Broodking's responses to the pressure are much more telling than the actual initial pressure itself. austinmcc is completely right that Broodking is the scummiest person alive now." Now his most recent post d2 is questioning austinmcc for the mislynch and implying Anac and austinmcc are buddying without any real proof. I don't believe this, but it makes me wonder if you're mafia and supported the BKE lynch because you knew he was town and saw an easy d2 lynch in austin/Anac because you knew that bringing up austin's case would put pressure on austin for the mislynch. Like I said, I have nothing concrete to back that up, but it does make me suspicious of you. austinmcc- Even though he led the mislynch on BKE, his reasonings were sound and his posts have all been solid so far. I'll be watching but you seem town to me. | ||
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Mufaa
219 Posts
Unforgiven_ve- No real read yet, he has barely any content. Would like to see more posts from him. | ||
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dahdum
United States46 Posts
@Mufaa - You're right about me considering a case against Tofu. If you look at his play style this game versus last game, it's very different. Read his filter in the last newbie game when he was a blue role and compare it to this one, he doesn't sound Town to me at all now. As for the mafia's kill, makes perfect sense. That guy was contributing a lot and spending a lot of time doing analysis, so a strong kill for mafia. | ||
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
On May 14 2012 20:49 Anacletus wrote: You're not even refuting or countering any of my points with validations for your actions anymore: Yes, I am. Did you even read my last post? I've stated several times that I am not voting for you solely based on your reasoning for changing votes. I would like to know where I wrote that your only reason for voting was me changing. I addressed each of your bad points, including this one. You're pretty condescending for someone who doesn't address any of the points I've made against them, but instead creates round-about posts that pretty aggressive. And YOU apparently lack the ability to read my posts, or just read what you want to see and ignore all the rest of my points. Care to answer my question back from before? I'm still waiting. You've tried to tie me to darkfire several times. Link Please. The only one linking yourself to Dark is YOU, in your case against me. We can't lynch more than one person per day so I'm not aiming for a complete mafia call out - I am just convinced that you are mafia. I've also said several times that I believe that FirmTofu is mafia as well based on your posting similarities. But I guess you overlooked that. Got me there! Wait, not really, try reading my last couple of posts. I have. I still believe this So your defense now is: "I'M NOT MAFIA, HE'S MAFIA"? Let's say the town DOES finally decide to hang me, you don't think I'll end the day with someone like "Okay, once you hang me go after BioSC and FirmTofu"? You can say whatever you want, if you flip as scummy as you are playing, it won't matter what you say. I feel like your strategy is pretty near-sighted for being a mafia. Your cute plan of trying to get whoever ShiaoPi was fingering more imaginative. Now who's being condescending/aggressive? Adding cute to your points doesn't make them any better. I believe ShiaoPi far more than I believe you, because HE flipped town. YOU on the other hand have been scummy since min. one. Your posts aren't worth addressing anymore. Your case is bad and your responses in this post confirm to me you don't actually have any idea about why you are coming after me. | ||
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
On May 15 2012 03:00 Mufaa wrote: BioSC- All game you've been defending yourself from reads people put on you, but your defense is always "I'm not doing mafia things, your read is invalid" or something along those lines. I'd be a lot more likely to believe you if you had contributed to finding scum at all instead of just defending yourself. Who do you think is most likely to be scum and what do you have to back it up? I have contributed. Have you not noticed the little back and forth me and ana have been doing today? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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Anacletus
United States733 Posts
On May 15 2012 03:57 BioSC wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 14 2012 20:49 Anacletus wrote: You're not even refuting or countering any of my points with validations for your actions anymore: Yes, I am. Did you even read my last post? I've stated several times that I am not voting for you solely based on your reasoning for changing votes. I would like to know where I wrote that your only reason for voting was me changing. I addressed each of your bad points, including this one. You're pretty condescending for someone who doesn't address any of the points I've made against them, but instead creates round-about posts that pretty aggressive. And YOU apparently lack the ability to read my posts, or just read what you want to see and ignore all the rest of my points. Care to answer my question back from before? I'm still waiting. You've tried to tie me to darkfire several times. Link Please. The only one linking yourself to Dark is YOU, in your case against me. We can't lynch more than one person per day so I'm not aiming for a complete mafia call out - I am just convinced that you are mafia. I've also said several times that I believe that FirmTofu is mafia as well based on your posting similarities. But I guess you overlooked that. Got me there! Wait, not really, try reading my last couple of posts. I have. I still believe this So your defense now is: "I'M NOT MAFIA, HE'S MAFIA"? Let's say the town DOES finally decide to hang me, you don't think I'll end the day with someone like "Okay, once you hang me go after BioSC and FirmTofu"? You can say whatever you want, if you flip as scummy as you are playing, it won't matter what you say. I feel like your strategy is pretty near-sighted for being a mafia. Your cute plan of trying to get whoever ShiaoPi was fingering more imaginative. Now who's being condescending/aggressive? Adding cute to your points doesn't make them any better. I believe ShiaoPi far more than I believe you, because HE flipped town. YOU on the other hand have been scummy since min. one. Your posts aren't worth addressing anymore. Your case is bad and your responses in this post confirm to me you don't actually have any idea about why you are coming after me. Right. My case is bad and THAT'S why you won't address the condemning information. You voted for dark for not defending himself, and now you won't now. The irony is astounding. | ||
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dahdum
United States46 Posts
On May 15 2012 04:21 austinmcc wrote: dahdum and BioSC, before today you guys were calling each other out and suspicious of each other. Do you each still believe the other scummy? Why/why not? BioSC is highly defensive and started out quite passive, I find the heavy concern with how he's perceived quite suspicious. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Day 2 Current Vote Count BioSC(1): Anacletus Anacletus(1): BioSC Darkfirex5(1): austinmcc Not yet voting: Mufaa, Dahdum, Darkfirex5, Crossfire99, FirmTofu, Unforgiven_VE, Hyaach Voting ends in 2 hours, at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). | ||
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Darkfirex5
United States67 Posts
-->My current thoughts is that either BioSC or Anacletus is mafia, or there is a chance they are townies fighting one another, i dont know what to make of it atm. with the second post about ShiaoPi was more as a friendly post to him because he got killed. I don't know how to convince you analytically on that, but it was more of an insignifigant post to ShiaoPi as he was leaving. at austinmcc, the post about me, the reson i was so cautious and unable to make such strong posts was because of the day one, just trying to figure things out. At the moment, i think that BioSC, Anacletus, you and me are twonie. I'm townie and the fact that Anacletus stuck up for me, well now i know he is townie as well. And if anyone wants to say that we both are mafia, well i still insisted on the Anacletus vote to get him killed, even when i could of just switched to EXE and not suffered any problem. We currently have lurkers who are leting us tear one another up.with the current votes in I we put townies more at risk. And now for the more contradictory part, we can try to vote a lurker (which i prefer), or i may need to place my vote on BioSC or you. What credability do i have now? well i doubt you would give me any. But if Anacletus somewhat defended me he's townie. So that leaves me to believe that either you or BioSC because you two arent voting on the same person which should mean you arent affiliated BioSC and austin i'd suggest re analzing becuase one of you is town and BioSC if you are townie dont waste your vote on Anacletus. <-- he isnt mafia. And well now, even if i get lynched at the end of this, now one of you three is mafia. The two townies should realize it and vote off the third party. I still dont like the lack of other posts only checking in and saying mother's day was an inconvinence. (well it was but still). Now whichever of us gets some votes stacked, mafia can say oh i liked these posts cause "blagh" and then get more townie killed --> I'm hoping all of us are townie, because well i've sided more with knowing Anacletus is townie. -->If i didnt answer a question just bold it and i will get on that right away. --> id still like for mufaa to answer the question ShiaoPi posted before. | ||
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Mufaa
219 Posts
I need to ask dahdum some more questions but at least he's responded and a lynch on dark is more likely. | ||
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Darkfirex5
United States67 Posts
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Darkfirex5
United States67 Posts
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
BioSC -> Hyaach (jokingly) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=5#81 dahdum -> FirmTofu (Semantics) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=5#82 Darkfire -> BioSC (Semantics) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=5#84 Unforgiven_ve -> FirmTofu (Semantics) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=5#86 BroodKingEXE -> VOTE FirmTofu (Semantics) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=5#87 ShiaoPi -> Hyaach (Semantics) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=5#89 dahdum -> Jailbreaker (Semantics) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=5#92 dahdum -> VOTE FirmTofu (Semantics) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=5#93 Ancletus ->VOTE FirmTofu (No reason) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=6#102 Ancletus -> FirmTofu (Semantics?) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=6#103 Hyaach -> Ancletus (No reason) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=6#104 Hyaach -> Ancletus (Semantics) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=6#106 austinmcc -> Ancletus (Bad play) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=6#110 ShiaoPi -> Ancletus (Bad play) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=6#113 Crossfire99 -> Ancletus (Bad play) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=6#117 Crossfire99 -> Ancletus (Semantics) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=6#118 austinmcc -> Ancletus (Contradiction) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=6#119 FirmTofu -> VOTE Ancletus (Bad play) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=7#123 ShiaoPi -> VOTE Ancletus (Bad play + Contradiction) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=7#128 dahdum -> VOTE Ancletus (Bandwagon) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=8#141 BroodKingEXE -> Ancletus (Bad Play) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=8#143 Darkfirex5 -> FirmTofu (Semantics?) -> BioSC (Bad Play?) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=8#147 Darkfirex5 -> Ancletus (Bandwagon accusation) -> Unforgiven_ve (???) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=8#158 Mufaa -> Ancletus (Bad Play) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=9#167 BioSC -> VOTE Ancletus (Bad Play) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=9#171 dahdum -> Ancletus (Bad Play) -> Hyaach (Bad Play) -> BioSC (Bad Play) -> Darkfirex5 (Bad Play) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=9#173 Darkfirex5 -> dahdum (Contradiction) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=9#176 dahdum -> BioSC (Defensive Play) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=10#181 BioSC -> darkfirex5 (Bad Play) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=10#183 FirmTofu -> Anacletus (Contradiction + Bad Play) -> Darkfirex5 (Semantics) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=10#190 BroodKingEXE -> VOTE Ancletus http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=10#193 ShiaoPi -> Hyaach (Bad Play) -> Jailbreaker (Lurker) -> Darkfirex5 (Contradiction) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=10#194 austinmcc -> VOTE BroodKingEXE (Bad Play, Contradictions, Semantics) -> Ancletus (Bad play) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=10#197 BroodkingEXE -> Jailbreaker (Lurker) -> BioSC (Defensive Play) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=11#205 BroodkingEXE -> austinmcc (Contradiction) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=11#206 Crossfire99 -> VOTE Anacletus (Bad Play) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=11#219 Anacletus -> VOTE BroodkingEXE (Cites other people's reasons) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=12#222 austinmcc -> BroodKingEXE (Contradiction) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=12#225 dahdum -> VOTE BroodKingEXE (No reason) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=12#228 BioSC -> VOTE BroodKingEXE (Cites other people's reasons) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=12#231 Mufaa -> VOTE Jailbreaker (Lurker) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=12#238 FirmTofu -> VOTE BroodKingEXE (Cites other people's reasons) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=12#240 ShiaoPi -> VOTE BroodKingEXE (Cites other people's reasons) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=13#249 Unforgiven_ve -> VOTE BroodKingEXE (Cites other people's reasons) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=13#250 austinmcc -> BroodKingEXE (Bad Play, later clarifies that he misread) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=13#251 Mufaa -> VOTE BroodKingEXE (Cites other people's posts) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=13#253 BroodKingEXE -> Mufaa (Bandwagoning) -> dahdum (Bandwagoning) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=14#264 | ||
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