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ThaZenith
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Jinsho
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Sorkoas
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On May 14 2012 01:07 one-one-one wrote: What about Liberty Ale? I don't like it much but it's alright if you're new to IPAs. | ||
lohi
Czech Republic4 Posts
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lolmlg
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The only other beers that come to mind as beers I've enjoyed are Rickard's Red and Delirium Tremens. I had Delirium Tremens in Belgium and it's been a while, but the memory stuck with me. | ||
screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
On May 13 2012 08:22 forgotten0ne wrote: Step 1) Move to Oregon Step 2) Go for years without ever being able to try every delicious microbrew we make. Step 3) ????? Step 4) Profit This! My Irish blood found a gold mine when I moved out here lol. Sounds like you're on the right track OP, many of these posters don't seem to understand beer enough to give you proper advice. Stouts and porters are what you should be looking for with your current preferances. Availability is sometimes problematic depending on what is available to you locally. I think Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout is distributed nationwide and pretty easy to find. Guiness might be something you'd like if you can find a pub that knows how to serve it properly- otherwise it can have a burnt/bitter taste. Black Butte porter or Obsidian stout from Deschutes Brewing co. would probably be something you'd like if you can find it out there. I'm not familiar with the micro brew scene where you live though. http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/brew/black-butte-xxi-porter http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/brew/obsidian-stout Edit: also see Cragus's post | ||
Swwww
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elKaDor
Sweden376 Posts
Staropramen Heineken and also the national beer of turkey, forgot the name but my god its awesome! well, national beer, the most common beer | ||
JawHun
United States151 Posts
If you're down in Colorado I will take you to some breweries. We are practically the beer state of the US, with over 140 microbreweries (second only to California, but they have like a billion people)! GO COLORADO! (Special shout out to Vermont, Oregon, Maine and Montana for also being awesome beer states) | ||
Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On May 14 2012 04:16 elKaDor wrote: Miller etc are imo overrated, everyone i know are like omg wtf awesome when they drink miller. Staropramen Heineken and also the national beer of turkey, forgot the name but my god its awesome! well, national beer, the most common beer Efes? That's at least the beer they had everywhere in Istanbul. That' good yea. I staropramen, too. I am really into beck's since inwas born in bremen and lived there for 20 years so i am pretty used to it. Leffes from belgium is really really good, too. | ||
jobber123rd
United States501 Posts
On May 14 2012 02:49 Cragus wrote: This thread is full of a lot of terrible suggestions, people listing their favourite beers and general idiocy. I'm going to try to break things down to the basics a bit. You have five primary contributors to flavour in beer: Hops: There are several varieties of hops some more flavourful, some more bitter. The bittering hops content is usually what contributes a bitterness to the beer (hence the name), but not all hops are equally bitter. Hops also give citrusy, pine, etc. notes. I would say these are all 'high notes' of flavour. It would appear that the OP doesnt like a strong bitter hops character. Barley Malt: These are your earthy notes. Different malts give different flavours, but they all have that rich base. Some hops are smoked, some are more nutty, chocolatey, etc. Yeast: This is usually a minor effect even in bottle conditioned beers. If you have ever made bread, you'll know what to expect out of yeast. The one thing this does do that is major is the beer type is largely determined by yeast. Lager yeasts make lagers (ususally lighter beers, but woe be the person that buys an eisbock expecting a light drinking beer), and ale yeasts make ales (usually heavier weight beers with more intense flavouring, but again, its up to the brewer, some ales can be quite light). Alcohol: Drink a shot of vodka. You now know what alcohol tastes like. It usually contributes a slight spice to high abv beers, but is generally not a primary flavour contributor to most beers. Adjuncts: This is kind of a catchall category for everything that isnt yeast, water, barley malt, or hops. In good beer adjuncts like (but definitely not limited to) wheat, oatmeal, chocolate, and coffee are pretty common to add flavour notes to the beer). In cheap shitty beer, adjuncts like corn and rice are used to add fermentable material at a minimum of cost. If you look at Corona, an example of a weak piss beer brewed cheaply, youll find it contains water, yeast, barley malt, corn, rice, hops, ascorbic acid, and propylene glycol alginate [yum antifreeze]. Basically with adjuncts, you should be able to guess how they affect flavour (if they added spruce or juniper, it probably tastes like spruce or juniper). With that said, it sounds like the OP likes deep tones of malt without strong bitterness or hop character. The style list at beer advocate can help you find beers that fit the need, but I'll try to name some styles off the top of my head that fit well: Doppelbock - strong german lagers that are malty without heavy hop character Scotch ale/Wee Heavy - Scottish beers that are sweet and malty with no bitterness Belgian dark ales - Very malty, not very hoppy, sweetish, very high abv Milk stout - Contains milk [or at least milk sugars]. Sweet [too sweet for my taste], malty, little hop character Belgian dubbels, tripels, and quads - very very malty, very very high abv, kind of sweet, low hop character American/English porters/stouts - This is a mixed bag, some are bitter, some arent. All are very malty. Strong antirecommendation: Anything "Imperial" - these are usually very hoppy and/or very bitter (Imperial Russian Stout, Imperial IPA, etc.) Anything "Pale Ale" - usually quite hoppy, enerally light malt character (NB: IPA = India Pale Ale and should be avoided, all true IPAs are quite bitter, although some of them are just using the name [like Alexander Keiths]) Anything macrobrewed (Stella, Heineken, Molsen, American Bud, Miller, etc.) - usually just bad or bland, very few exceptions Anything "Light" - see above Some specific beers I would recommend: Southern Tier Creme Brulee Stout Southern Tier Choklat Chimay Blue Traquair Jacobite Innis & Gunn Rum Cask Celebrator Doppelbock Unibroue La Fin Du Monde (assuming you like nutmeg) Young's Double Chocolate Stout (guess what adjunct this has ) This is such a damn good post. I was thinking about replying earlier with some suggestions, including the Chimay Grande Réserve (the blue one), La Fin Du Monde, and Young's Double Chocolate Stout, but you covered that, and gave a lot of helpful info besides. As for the comments ITT about it how it might be that OP just doesn't like beer, period -- that's possible, but the beers listed in the original post aren't a very good sample for determining that. There was a time not long ago where all I'd tried was stuff similar to what the OP listed, and I was wondering if I didn't have a taste for any beer at all...and then a buddy of mine bought me a pint of a local brown ale. (BTW, the first time I ever had Newcaste Brown Ale, it was a from a bottle, and it was skunked. However, I didn't know about skunking, so for quite some time, I thought that Newcastle Brown Ale was shit. [I await your snarky replies.] ) | ||
docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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dreamsmasher
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some of my favorite beers: Goose Island: Matilda (i like a lot of their beers, honker's ale, 312, etc...) Delirium Tremens (kind of expensive its like $12/bottle, but more alcoholic) Dogfish Head: Golden Elixir (really can't go wrong with this brand) most of these are bit more expensive though (~8-10 bucks for a 6 pack) if you want some decent cheap beers simpler times (it can be found at Trader Joe's), Lionshead, Pabst Blue Ribbon, and Red Oval are all not too bad for their cost. sounds like you should really just go out with your friends if they're into craft beers. craft beers taste completely different from the stuff you have tried, and really its a fun experience just trying all the beers, getting a little tipsy with friends and looking at the whole process. I think food/spirits production is also really interesting in a lot of ways (its a good blend of science and culture), and its interesting to compare my own opinions with that of others. have fun! | ||
dreamsmasher
816 Posts
On May 14 2012 00:33 CptBeefheart wrote: Before this becomes an American beer sucks threat, know that there are some very good American beers brewed by smaller breweries. I'm only posting my favorite few that you can pretty much find anywhere. Shiner - Bock, Hefeweizen, Golden, their seasonal stuff Flying Dog - Raging Bitch, Snake Dog, a handful of others Wild Blue + Show Spoiler + tastes like blueberry soda but its 8%abv + Show Spoiler + I call it rape beer Bells is alright I had a roommate who was really into it. If you live right near a brewery I advise going because beer is better fresher These other couple are drinkable in the strictest sense of the word, but they are the best swills you can drink if you are short on cash imo. Pabst Blue Ribbon Yuengling Lager i dont think anyone is going to say american beer sucks. people are saying american macro brews are bad (which is enerally true) | ||
dreamsmasher
816 Posts
On May 13 2012 07:50 Skilledblob wrote: in a question about tastes there is no best or right and wrong. no, some people have better taste than others. i'm not saying you should blindly accept what others say and just only try x beer, of course you should drink what you like, but dont pretend that everyone's opinion is equally valid. | ||
BrassMonkey27
Canada616 Posts
Pilsner Urquell Grolsch Asahi Kronenbourg Peroni edit: DA BEERSS! | ||
cas2
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Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
I find it works out pretty well. I know I can pretty much drink whatever my father does, so our tastes are similar there. | ||
BachHo
United States170 Posts
On May 14 2012 02:49 Cragus wrote: This thread is full of a lot of terrible suggestions, people listing their favourite beers and general idiocy. I'm going to try to break things down to the basics a bit. You have five primary contributors to flavour in beer: Hops: There are several varieties of hops some more flavourful, some more bitter. The bittering hops content is usually what contributes a bitterness to the beer (hence the name), but not all hops are equally bitter. Hops also give citrusy, pine, etc. notes. I would say these are all 'high notes' of flavour. It would appear that the OP doesnt like a strong bitter hops character. Barley Malt: These are your earthy notes. Different malts give different flavours, but they all have that rich base. Some hops are smoked, some are more nutty, chocolatey, etc. Yeast: This is usually a minor effect even in bottle conditioned beers. If you have ever made bread, you'll know what to expect out of yeast. The one thing this does do that is major is the beer type is largely determined by yeast. Lager yeasts make lagers (ususally lighter beers, but woe be the person that buys an eisbock expecting a light drinking beer), and ale yeasts make ales (usually heavier weight beers with more intense flavouring, but again, its up to the brewer, some ales can be quite light). Alcohol: Drink a shot of vodka. You now know what alcohol tastes like. It usually contributes a slight spice to high abv beers, but is generally not a primary flavour contributor to most beers. Adjuncts: This is kind of a catchall category for everything that isnt yeast, water, barley malt, or hops. In good beer adjuncts like (but definitely not limited to) wheat, oatmeal, chocolate, and coffee are pretty common to add flavour notes to the beer). In cheap shitty beer, adjuncts like corn and rice are used to add fermentable material at a minimum of cost. If you look at Corona, an example of a weak piss beer brewed cheaply, youll find it contains water, yeast, barley malt, corn, rice, hops, ascorbic acid, and propylene glycol alginate [yum antifreeze]. Basically with adjuncts, you should be able to guess how they affect flavour (if they added spruce or juniper, it probably tastes like spruce or juniper). With that said, it sounds like the OP likes deep tones of malt without strong bitterness or hop character. The style list at beer advocate can help you find beers that fit the need, but I'll try to name some styles off the top of my head that fit well: Doppelbock - strong german lagers that are malty without heavy hop character Scotch ale/Wee Heavy - Scottish beers that are sweet and malty with no bitterness Belgian dark ales - Very malty, not very hoppy, sweetish, very high abv Milk stout - Contains milk [or at least milk sugars]. Sweet [too sweet for my taste], malty, little hop character Belgian dubbels, tripels, and quads - very very malty, very very high abv, kind of sweet, low hop character American/English porters/stouts - This is a mixed bag, some are bitter, some arent. All are very malty. Strong antirecommendation: Anything "Imperial" - these are usually very hoppy and/or very bitter (Imperial Russian Stout, Imperial IPA, etc.) Anything "Pale Ale" - usually quite hoppy, enerally light malt character (NB: IPA = India Pale Ale and should be avoided, all true IPAs are quite bitter, although some of them are just using the name [like Alexander Keiths]) Anything macrobrewed (Stella, Heineken, Molsen, American Bud, Miller, etc.) - usually just bad or bland, very few exceptions Anything "Light" - see above Some specific beers I would recommend: Southern Tier Creme Brulee Stout Southern Tier Choklat Chimay Blue Traquair Jacobite Innis & Gunn Rum Cask Celebrator Doppelbock Unibroue La Fin Du Monde (assuming you like nutmeg) Young's Double Chocolate Stout (guess what adjunct this has ) I support this post. I also share your tastes I think, and these recommendations would be very good in helping you get into beers. | ||
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