On April 24 2012 19:43 poorcloud wrote: Not balance whining but protoss is actually the only race that is able to take an expo and thus do an even more powerful attack. Boggles your mind really.
On April 24 2012 19:41 Nocteo wrote: So, bomber unpowered all the production, protoss not building stuff and being 2500/1000 and still wins this game with ease.
First Alicia got the advantage earlier. Also after unpowering Alicia's production, Bomber was loosing units with FFs everywhere, drops were really well stopped. Rush at the front and no drop would have been even better maybe.
I dunno though. Bomber's army seemed weaker than Alicia's army straight up though. But yeah, maybe he should have went for a big push at the nat or the third. Might have been able to tear down Alicia's army while he was still having trouble reinforcing.
Delaying P's production is typically not a hard advantage. If you get unfavorable engagements with your army, all of that bleeds away instantly.
Theres like 3 major things going on here: The fast 3 nexus Warpin mechanics Chrono upgrades
And they combine to push P ahead super fast in practically every aspect of the game (except tech units). It's preferable to not overextend, and knock out the P 3rd.
On April 24 2012 19:43 poorcloud wrote: Not balance whining but protoss is actually the only race that is able to take an expo and thus do an even more powerful attack. Boggles your mind really.
Then what is it -.- ?
LR thread rules, when someone starts off a sentence with "not balance whining" or "not complaining or anything" you know they are going to whine and/or complain about balance -_-
On April 24 2012 19:43 poorcloud wrote: Not balance whining but protoss is actually the only race that is able to take an expo and thus do an even more powerful attack. Boggles your mind really.
Then what is it -.- ?
Just stating a fact. Dosen't mean i actually think the game is imbalanced since it is based on so many other factors as well.
5.00 SlayerS_Alicia is spawning as the red Protoss in the 2 o'clock position. StarTale_Bomber is spawning as the blue Terran in the 8 o'clock position.
Alicia opens with a Gateway. Bomber starts off with a barracks.
Bomber finishes off his wall with a supply depot. Alicia gets an Assimilator.
Cybernetics Core going down for Alicia, getting his first Zealot. Bomber goes for a 1rax expand, with his CC being built on the high ground in the main.
Warp Gate tech started for Alicia as he takes his second Assimilator, though he's not mining for it. Two more Barracks started for Bomber, followe by double Refinery.
Alicia takes his Nexus. CC finishes up for Bomber, immediately upgraded to an Orbital.
Two more Gateways started for Alicia. Bomber adds on two bunkers at the front of his natural.
My god so this is the infamous LR whine that people talk about.... Sure bomber completely leveled the main, but not before the resource advantage off the 3-base was capitalized on - there were 5 gates at the third. Alicia knew he was going to lose everything so he made 6 at his third, one of which died.
Bomber lost cost-INEFFICIENTLY in all 3 fights (main, nat, third). AND he didn't think he didn't need any additional bunker support even when army supply was even.
I just don't understand how retarded people get in this thread. That was a crazy back and forth moment where Bomber overestimated his advantage, which if he hadn't, he wouldve been ahead economically. Jesus Christ. GG.
On April 24 2012 19:43 poorcloud wrote: Not balance whining but protoss is actually the only race that is able to take an expo and thus do an even more powerful attack. Boggles your mind really.
Then what is it -.- ?
Just stating a fact. Dosen't mean i actually think the game is imbalanced since it is based on so many other factors as well.
Pretty sure zerg in ZvP can do the same, 3 hatch baneling bust.
On April 24 2012 19:43 poorcloud wrote: Not balance whining but protoss is actually the only race that is able to take an expo and thus do an even more powerful attack. Boggles your mind really.
Then what is it -.- ?
LR thread rules, when someone starts off a sentence with "not balance whining" or "not complaining or anything" you know they are going to whine and/or complain about balance -_-
It's like when some one starts with the sentence "with all due respect but" or "Nothing personal but" basicly everything before "but" is bullshit.