EPTBut it's not like I was asking them to do the impossible, just get my explicit permission before making decisions. What's so tough about that?
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
But it's not like I was asking them to do the impossible, just get my explicit permission before making decisions. What's so tough about that? | ||
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iloahz
United States964 Posts
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM $19.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $59.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767 SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card $179.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948 COOLMAX ZX Series ZX-500 500W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply $39.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159124 Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9K2/8G $42.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139075 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ... $219.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 Rosewill RCX-Z1 Long life ball bearing for over 45,000/hrs CPU Cooler $14.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200014 Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $124.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226236 total: $877.69 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On April 06 2012 04:16 iloahz wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Could someone check if the following are compatible? Any suggestion on which part to change? I will mainly use this for SC2, Diablo 3 (maybe some other games) and programming/working. Thanks a lot! ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM $19.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $59.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767 SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card $179.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948 COOLMAX ZX Series ZX-500 500W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply $39.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159124 Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9K2/8G $42.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139075 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ... $219.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 Rosewill RCX-Z1 Long life ball bearing for over 45,000/hrs CPU Cooler $14.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200014 Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $124.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226236 total: $877.69 Change optical drive to Samsung for $15 + free shipping: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244 Use promo code APRODD15 for another 15% off. Get 6870 and memory in combo for $211: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.879125 Remember to use promo code APRVGA10 for the GPU and APRMEM15 for the memory to get an additional 25% off. Coolmax ZX, no idea of manufacturer of this but it's probably a shitty one when it's only $40... lol. When it's the heart of the computer, why would you risk $800+ worth of components with shit? Get an Antec Earthwatts 6500 for $60, way more power than you need but it's a good deal: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044 That Rosewill heatsink is for AMD platforms and doesn't look really good either. Get the Xigmatek Gaia in combo with 2500k: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.892709 | ||
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iloahz
United States964 Posts
On April 06 2012 04:25 skyR wrote: Change optical drive to Samsung for $15 + free shipping: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244 Use promo code APRODD15 for another 15% off. Get 6870 and memory in combo for $211: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.879125 Remember to use promo code APRVGA10 for the GPU and APRMEM15 for the memory to get an additional 25% off. Coolmax ZX, no idea of manufacturer of this but it's probably a shitty one when it's only $40... lol. When it's the heart of the computer, why would you risk $800+ worth of components with shit? Get an Antec Earthwatts 6500 for $60, way more power than you need but it's a good deal: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044 That Rosewill heatsink is for AMD platforms and doesn't look really good either. Get the Xigmatek Gaia in combo with 2500k: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.892709 Great! Thanks a lot! | ||
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Shauni
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On April 06 2012 00:21 Womwomwom wrote: I literally don't give a shit about SSD benchmarks. All I care about is: 1) Is the thing reliable. 2) Is it significantly faster than a mechanical hard disk. 3) How cheap is it. Considering OCZ's history of having shitty reliability and that small period of dishonesty, I'm going to wait for people to guinea pig these new drives. Its a fast drive is great but a fast drive is pointless if the firmware is going to fry your data or if sleeping your PC will cause the SSD to lock itself. Edit: I do occasional photoediting for a photographer friend and we use SSDs to back up field data now. Hence price and reliability is an issue, speed being less so since they're all stupid fast these days and they generally have zero stuttering. Our solution is just to buy depreciated gear. Really, I honestly cannot tell the speed difference unless we're doing huge writes. Shitty reliability has nothing to do with OCZ though. They were the ones who pushed the hardest for the firmware fixes (understandably), but since they did not have access to the sandforce controller it was out of their reach. With their self developed Indilinx controller however, this will obviously change. Since they're offering 5 year warranty I'm quite sure they believe in their own controllers stability. I don't care much about the performance either, but OCZ are the ones who are competing to lower the prices (which makes their own controller outperforming Sandforce the market more interesting). Ironically both Intel and Samsung who have their own fabs and can develop everything themselves have no interest in being competitive in regards to the price toward end consumers since they make money from OEM and other parts, also being large trusted brands. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 06 2012 04:39 Shauni wrote: Shitty reliability has nothing to do with OCZ though. They were the ones who pushed the hardest for the firmware fixes (understandably), but since they did not have access to the sandforce controller it was out of their reach. With their self developed Indilinx controller however, this will obviously change. Since they're offering 5 year warranty I'm quite sure they believe in their own controllers stability. I don't care much about the performance either, but OCZ are the ones who are competing to lower the prices (which makes their own controller outperforming Sandforce the market more interesting). Ironically both Intel and Samsung who have their own fabs and can develop everything themselves have no interest in being competitive in regards to the price toward end consumers since they make money from OEM and other parts, also being large trusted brands. OCZ pushed for firmware fixes the hardest because they've got a terrible track record of hastily releasing products that are smoking fast, but horribly unreliable. That's not the best track record for staying in the high performance market niche they want to be in. Yes, some of their stuff works well, and the unreliable stuff works well if you DON'T get a bad one, but nobody likes that "if". OCZ wants to be a trusted name, and who can blame them? But, just because they THINK they have a good product, and they're gambling on it a bit with the warranty, doesn't mean they have something people want to risk turning into a major time sink. It's kind of like the reason this board is so popular. Nobody wants to suffer through endless hours of sitting on hold to talk to someone who barely speaks their language and couldn't find a PC's on switch without a blinking neon sign. You can hardly blame people for wanting to wait and watch before trusting their OS, productivity, and free time to a brand who's had some consistent bad luck and quality control combine to make using their products a gamble. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Let's not mention many people hold grudges and would be skeptical of purchasing from a company who not only has a terrible history but has also lied to them. OCZ will never be at the same tier in terms of name as Intel, Crucial, Samsung, or Plextor, at least not in our generation. OCZ is at like the bottom of the barrel. | ||
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Nfi
United States357 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 06 2012 05:47 Nfi wrote: Hey dudes i'm having a bit of unexpected problems with my GPU. Its a Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 6850 and today when I turned it on it started making a really weird noise as if something was touching the fan but nothing seems to be inside the fan when I opened it up. It starts to stutter sometimes and sometimes shuts off completely and sometimes every few minutes the fan will work fine and the noise is gone but it eventually comes back. The noise doesn't start right away on startup for maybe a minute or two while its turning on it will work fine but then the noise starts. Any idea how I can fix this problem? Run your PC with the case open, and watch it. See if the fan is stuttering to match the noise, and make sure it's definitely coming from the GPU fan. It could be that the fan is going out, or needs to be reconnected to the card's PCB. There could also be dust and junk up inside the heatsink that occasionally batters against it, check for that. | ||
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Nfi
United States357 Posts
On April 06 2012 05:49 JingleHell wrote: Run your PC with the case open, and watch it. See if the fan is stuttering to match the noise, and make sure it's definitely coming from the GPU fan. It could be that the fan is going out, or needs to be reconnected to the card's PCB. There could also be dust and junk up inside the heatsink that occasionally batters against it, check for that. I wasn't sure at first where it was coming from so I ran the computer with the case open and i had it on the side so I could see the GPU fan and while the weird noise is happening it looks like the fan is fine but once the stuttering noise starts I can see the GPU fan start to stutter and sometimes it will stop completely and the noise will also stop along with it. I tried looking around it and nothing seems to be touching the fan. Sometimes when I move the case around it will stop but I can't see anything that would be coming in conflict with the fan. Could dust possibly cause this? The video card is fairly new about 3-4 months old. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 06 2012 05:53 Nfi wrote: I wasn't sure at first where it was coming from so I ran the computer with the case open and i had it on the side so I could see the GPU fan and while the weird noise is happening it looks like the fan is fine but once the stuttering noise starts I can see the GPU fan start to stutter and sometimes it will stop completely and the noise will also stop along with it. I tried looking around it and nothing seems to be touching the fan. Sometimes when I move the case around it will stop but I can't see anything that would be coming in conflict with the fan. Well, to reiterate myself... It could be that the fan is going out, or needs to be reconnected to the card's PCB. There could also be dust and junk up inside the heatsink that occasionally batters against it, check for that. You'll either need to resign yourself to potentially taking your card apart, or contact their support and see if you can RMA, most likely. Or you can ignore it until something takes a shit. | ||
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skyR
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iKill[ShocK]
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micronesia
United States24475 Posts
For someone who is going to build a pc for the first time (I've only bought DELLs before lol) what are the most important things for them to know? Also, the pros of building your own PC are pretty apparent over buying say, a Dell, but what are the cons? | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 06 2012 09:24 micronesia wrote: I'm not ready to put together a budget yet for building a pc, but I figured I'd get the most pressing question answered: For someone who is going to build a pc for the first time (I've only bought DELLs before lol) what are the most important things for them to know? Also, the pros of building your own PC are pretty apparent over buying say, a Dell, but what are the cons? Well, the cons are... uhm. You can't call tech support and sit on hold to listen to a few hours of free music... uhm... you have to spend a few hours putting it together... and... yeah, I'm about out. As for what you need to know? What you want to do with it. Just answer the questions in the OP of the computer build resource thread. You can watch the hardwarecanucks youtube video guide to learn how it all goes together, although they frankly make it seem more difficult than it is. Oh, I suppose if you happened to be a fan of intentional ignorance, then you could call it a con that you would no longer thing PC's work by magic, and if your friends find out you built your own, they may expect you to troubleshoot their machines, which can frequently turn into an excess of free alcohol if you play your cards right, which could potentially lead to hangovers. More cons! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On April 06 2012 09:24 micronesia wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I'm not ready to put together a budget yet for building a pc, but I figured I'd get the most pressing question answered: For someone who is going to build a pc for the first time (I've only bought DELLs before lol) what are the most important things for them to know? Also, the pros of building your own PC are pretty apparent over buying say, a Dell, but what are the cons? The most important things for first time builders when it comes to building (not selecting components): Ground yourself. Every component fits one way. If it doesn't fit then it doesn't go there so don't be silly and force it in. Thermal paste is not glue but I guess this point doesn't matter for budget builds since there won't be any overclocking and the Intel heatsink already has thermal paste re-applied. The Intel heatsink sucks and a lot of force is required to properly secure the heatsink. Read the manual. The most common mistakes for first time builders are forgetting power cables. If they would have only read the manual or watched a video, they would have figured out they forgot the 4+4pin cable or a 6pin PCIe cable or forgot to turn on the power supply. If you're talking about what you need to know when it comes to picking components than that's a lot more complicated... PCI-E is backwards and forward compatible. No cards saturate PCI-E 2.1 so don't fall for marketing. SATA is backwards and forward compatible. HDDs do not saturate SATA 3Gbps so again, don't fall for marketing. CPU sockets however are not backward and forward compatible. If the CPU is LGA1155, you need a LGA1155 motherboard. Though it's hard to go wrong with this for a budget build unless you really have no sense at all. If you need to ask, you probably don't need it but just want it. The power supply is the heart of the computer, don't buy a shitty one. If you don't want to research than just ask or stick to the major brands (Seasonic, XFX, Corsair, Antec). A budget build will have plenty of headroom with a 400-500w unit so don't over allocate budget for an overkill power supply that will never be put to use. In the end, you can come up with a build with some lurking around forums and websites but it won't be optimized so it's best to ask for opinions before purchasing. Don't make the mistake of purchasing and then asking... and then being told that it's terrible. The cons of building your own over buying a pre-assembled computer would be you need to troubleshoot the mix of components on your own to determine what is dead or causing the problem instead of calling tech support / just sending it in for repair. Some may not consider this a con. Another con is that it takes time to build (and potentially troubleshoot as well). If you're lazy then ya... Basically most of the cons relate to troubleshooting. | ||
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micronesia
United States24475 Posts
On April 06 2012 09:27 JingleHell wrote: Well, the cons are... uhm. You can't call tech support and sit on hold to listen to a few hours of free music... uhm... you have to spend a few hours putting it together... and... yeah, I'm about out. As for what you need to know? What you want to do with it. Just answer the questions in the OP of the computer build resource thread. You can watch the hardwarecanucks youtube video guide to learn how it all goes together, although they frankly make it seem more difficult than it is. What I think I'm going to do is recruit someone who's good at this to answer any questions I have as I build it lol I'm not ready to answer the questions yet because it's going to be at least a few months before I will pull the trigger... oh what the hell I'll just do it now. I can ask later if any of the suggestions are no longer valid or ideal when the time comes. What is your budget? No limit. The limitation is that I only want a computer that offers what I want/need and nothing more (which I shall elaborate on) What is your resolution? My monitors are: 1280x1024 and 1920x1080. I'm not sure if I will use both of them for the new comp, use one of them for the new comp and one for the old comp, or get a new monitor and choose 2/3 for the new comp. The new monitor would possibly have a larger resolution but there is no guarantee that will ever actually happen. What are you using it for? Nothing that requires very high performance. I do some gaming, but never at higher settings, and never the games that have the highest requirements. I plan to do some programming/compiling/etc. I plan to do some image and possibly video editing. I may stream, but not professionally or a large amount. I want to have backup software, protective software (a la R1CH thread), and the like running while I browse and have several programs open at once. I also would like reboots to not take FOREVER. The rest will be browsing, office software, music, watch movies, etc. Basically a little of everything, but no specific activity that stands out and dictates what I need. What is your upgrade cycle? I keep computers for a long time, and rarely put money into performance after the initial purchase. For example, my current computer I've been using since 2007. When do you plan on building it? Hopefully this summer. Do you plan on overclocking? I've never done it before I don't think I would now. Do you need an Operating System? I've always had Windows before so I assume that's what I would need. Any other software I would definitely need to pick up? Some programs I love to have but hate to pay for: MS Word/Excel/PowerPoint/etc, Photoshop Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I don't even know what those are and I don't think I will need a second GPU, so long as I can handle two monitors. Where are you buying your parts from? I'm in the USA. I live driving distance from a Microcenter, and I can shop from pretty much any website that is typically used to buy computer parts! edit 1: I have three SATA hard drives in my previous PC right now: 300gig, 500gig, 1.5TB. I can also bring over the optical drive. I have no idea what cables I will won't need at this point. edit 2: Thanks skyR | ||
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