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On April 06 2012 13:50 GP wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 06 2012 13:35 iTzSnypah wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 13:13 GP wrote:So I'm looking to build my computer, and finally ditch my laptop now that I've gotten my tax return. I've been rocking laptops since college for school, but now I think I need something more stable. A few things to keep in mind: I will be using this heavily for 3d modelling and rendering, video editing, and Photoshop work. I game, but it's not something I do all the time, maybe every couple of days I spend a few hours playing. I have two alternate specs that I'm thinking about, Intel/nVidia and AMD/ATI. Aside from the OP which seems to be outdated with the "LOL Bulldozer sucks" The AMD FX 8120 seems to fare much better than its Intel counterpart at the same price, scoring almost a thousand higher. I know the extra four cores are moot for gaming, but I can only imagine it helps for software rendering complex 3D scenes. I'm looking to get some suggestions. One major question, should I stick with the 1.5 tb hd, or should I save a few bucks and get a much smaller hd mostly for booting/installs since I already have a pretty decently sized external? I've been told not to get anything above a tb because the higher density drives tend to have a much higher fail rate. I do have a lot of games and software, and I tend to not uninstall games often at all. Also constantly moving projects on and off a slow external is a pain. :| I have maybe a 150-200 bucks of wiggle room here, though I plan on buying a nice keyboard too. Here's what I've got right now: CPU: AMD FX-8120 189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103961GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 -149.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 AM3+ AMD 990FX - 119.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157281CPU: i5 2400 - 189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 GPU: GeForce GTX 460 Fermi - 149.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130750Motherboard: ASUS P8H67-V (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 - 104.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131783+ The standard stuff: RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1866 - 66.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233184PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W - 59.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044HD: WD Caviar Black 1.5TB 7200 RPM - 159.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136793Case: RAIDMAX Skyline ATX-948WB - 49.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156246DVD: LITE-ON DVD Burner - 17.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289Monitor: ASUS VH232H Glossy Black 23" - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236079 I don't know but 10Gb/$1 just feels like a bad deal for HDD's. If I remember right you can get a Corsair CX 430 v2 for $25 at the moment on newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026IF your gonna go with a 460 get this one for 120. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127646it has more fans so better OC ability which is the 460's niche. Also 1866 ram is pointless because you won't beable to tell a noticeable difference. Also if your gonna spend 105 on a mobo get a Z68/P67. you CAN oc an I5-2400 to 3.4 or so so why not spend the same amount of money for 300more mhz? Thanks for the feedback, I switched out the ram, but the power supply is at 45 right now, which is still cheaper, but the specs don't seem to be as good.
CX430v2 has never been at $25 on Newegg. He's factoring in MIR into the final price as is seen with the MSI GTX 460.
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On April 06 2012 13:51 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 13:50 GP wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 06 2012 13:35 iTzSnypah wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 13:13 GP wrote:So I'm looking to build my computer, and finally ditch my laptop now that I've gotten my tax return. I've been rocking laptops since college for school, but now I think I need something more stable. A few things to keep in mind: I will be using this heavily for 3d modelling and rendering, video editing, and Photoshop work. I game, but it's not something I do all the time, maybe every couple of days I spend a few hours playing. I have two alternate specs that I'm thinking about, Intel/nVidia and AMD/ATI. Aside from the OP which seems to be outdated with the "LOL Bulldozer sucks" The AMD FX 8120 seems to fare much better than its Intel counterpart at the same price, scoring almost a thousand higher. I know the extra four cores are moot for gaming, but I can only imagine it helps for software rendering complex 3D scenes. I'm looking to get some suggestions. One major question, should I stick with the 1.5 tb hd, or should I save a few bucks and get a much smaller hd mostly for booting/installs since I already have a pretty decently sized external? I've been told not to get anything above a tb because the higher density drives tend to have a much higher fail rate. I do have a lot of games and software, and I tend to not uninstall games often at all. Also constantly moving projects on and off a slow external is a pain. :| I have maybe a 150-200 bucks of wiggle room here, though I plan on buying a nice keyboard too. Here's what I've got right now: CPU: AMD FX-8120 189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103961GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 -149.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 AM3+ AMD 990FX - 119.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157281CPU: i5 2400 - 189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 GPU: GeForce GTX 460 Fermi - 149.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130750Motherboard: ASUS P8H67-V (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 - 104.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131783+ The standard stuff: RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1866 - 66.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233184PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W - 59.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044HD: WD Caviar Black 1.5TB 7200 RPM - 159.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136793Case: RAIDMAX Skyline ATX-948WB - 49.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156246DVD: LITE-ON DVD Burner - 17.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289Monitor: ASUS VH232H Glossy Black 23" - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236079 I don't know but 10Gb/$1 just feels like a bad deal for HDD's. If I remember right you can get a Corsair CX 430 v2 for $25 at the moment on newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026IF your gonna go with a 460 get this one for 120. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127646it has more fans so better OC ability which is the 460's niche. Also 1866 ram is pointless because you won't beable to tell a noticeable difference. Also if your gonna spend 105 on a mobo get a Z68/P67. you CAN oc an I5-2400 to 3.4 or so so why not spend the same amount of money for 300more mhz? Thanks for the feedback, I switched out the ram, but the power supply is at 45 right now, which is still cheaper, but the specs don't seem to be as good. CX430v2 has never been at $25 on Newegg. He's factoring in MIR into the final price as is seen with the MSI GTX 460.
CX430v2 is 25 AMIR and im not factoring in the 460..the 460 is just 120 lol...
Thanks for the feedback, I switched out the ram, but the power supply is at 45 right now, which is still cheaper, but the specs don't seem to be as good.
Specs is kind of misleading. I've put my entire enterainment (computer,monitor,surround sound system) on a watt meter. it maxxed out at 183watts running everything normally. you con't need 650 watts for a single gpu anyways.
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That's exactly what I said... I see the 460 at $140, not $120.
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On April 06 2012 14:55 skyR wrote:
That's exactly what I said... I see the 460 at $140, not $120.
Hm when i copy pasted url it said $120.. But at $140 its still $10 cheaper than his choice.
according to search its (search gtx 460 on newegg) 120AMIR
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I don't need to be educated on how to search on Newegg -_- You say you're not factoring in MIR yet you are for both the GPU and PSU...
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On April 06 2012 15:09 skyR wrote:
I don't need to be educated on how to search on Newegg -_- You say you're not factoring in MIR yet you are for both the GPU and PSU...
i was only factoring in mir for psu. I thought gpu was price reduced to 120..
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What you think about this build?:D
Kingston 4GB, DDR3, 1333MHz
AMD Phenom II X4 965, 3400MHz
MSI nVidia GeForce 560GTX-Ti
Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2, 500W, ATX2.2
ASRock N68-VS3 UCC - This motherboard bcuz he has IDE HDD :D
Thanks
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On April 06 2012 19:28 Tungaska wrote:
What you think about this build?:D
Kingston 4GB, DDR3, 1333MHz
AMD Phenom II X4 965, 3400MHz
MSI nVidia GeForce 560GTX-Ti
Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2, 500W, ATX2.2
ASRock N68-VS3 UCC - This motherboard bcuz he has IDE HDD :D
Thanks
It's bad because you should go with intel, something like i3 2100 with a h61 board would generally be way better. That PSU is not good, either get CX430 or just a completely different one like Capstone 450.
Overkill on graphics card and 7850 is currently a better choice anyway.
Just get a IDE - SATA adapter instead or buy a new hard drive, it's completely ridiculous to buy a new computer with outdated equipment only because you have some outdated equipment.
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On April 06 2012 19:35 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 19:28 Tungaska wrote:
What you think about this build?:D
Kingston 4GB, DDR3, 1333MHz
AMD Phenom II X4 965, 3400MHz
MSI nVidia GeForce 560GTX-Ti
Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2, 500W, ATX2.2
ASRock N68-VS3 UCC - This motherboard bcuz he has IDE HDD :D
Thanks It's bad because you should go with intel, something like i3 2100 with a h61 board would generally be way better. That PSU is not good, either get CX430 or just a completely different one like Capstone 450. Overkill on graphics card and 7850 is currently a better choice anyway. Just get a IDE - SATA adapter instead or buy a new hard drive, it's completely ridiculous to buy a new computer with outdated equipment only because you have some outdated equipment.
I think he was choosing a build for streaming though between the i3 2100 and 965. Streaming on 2 hyperthreaded cores isnt exactly optimal, phenom 2 performs better in that regard.
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Would it be worth trying to sell my old rig when I have built my new one? I mean it runs sc2 and will run d3 on med+ settings. I am thinking it would maybe be a good budget buy for someone who just desperatly wants to play d3 or even sc2 but cant afford a new comp.
Specs- Windows 7 professional 32 bit
Intel core duo 2.66ghz
Some Gigabyte board
4gb ram
9800GT
160GB storage
DVD burner
400 watt PSU
If not I will just give it to my parents or something but I was just curious
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On April 06 2012 22:29 TheMooseHeed wrote:
Would it be worth trying to sell my old rig when I have built my new one? I mean it runs sc2 and will run d3 on med+ settings. I am thinking it would maybe be a good budget buy for someone who just desperatly wants to play d3 or even sc2 but cant afford a new comp.
Specs- Windows 7 professional 32 bit
Intel core duo 2.66ghz
Some Gigabyte board
4gb ram
9800GT
160GB storage
DVD burner
400 watt PSU
If not I will just give it to my parents or something but I was just curious
Well, if you price it right on craigslist, you'll probably be able to unload it, but meh.
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So not worth the trouble?
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On April 06 2012 22:34 TheMooseHeed wrote:
So not worth the trouble?
Who knows.
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On April 06 2012 11:28 skyR wrote:
CPUs have always been cheap at Microcenter -.- it has nothing to do with age.
so should I expect the ivy bridge version of the 2400 to be also $150?
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You also need a cooler for your CPU since you are overclocking.
Any name brand PSU from a reputable dealer in the OP will work. Like an Antec 380D even. Or corsair CX430V2.
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IIRC you weren't planning to OC the CPU, so a 2500k and Z68 motherboard aren't going to do you much good. Go H67 and an i5 without the -k suffix, unless you changed your mind on OCing.
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On April 07 2012 04:21 Medrea wrote:You also need a cooler for your CPU since you are overclocking. Any name brand PSU from a reputable dealer in the OP will work. Like an Antec 380D even. Or corsair CX430V2.
My buddy on irc told me you can overclock up to a certain amount without increasing the cooling hardware, but was he wrong? I'll look at those PSUs.
On April 07 2012 04:24 JingleHell wrote:IIRC you weren't planning to OC the CPU, so a 2500k and Z68 motherboard aren't going to do you much good. Go H67 and an i5 without the -k suffix, unless you changed your mind on OCing.
yea my buddy talked me into it lol
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The stock cooler is awful. Its barely enough for stock settings.
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On April 07 2012 04:24 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 04:21 Medrea wrote:You also need a cooler for your CPU since you are overclocking. Any name brand PSU from a reputable dealer in the OP will work. Like an Antec 380D even. Or corsair CX430V2. My buddy on irc told me you can overclock up to a certain amount without increasing the cooling hardware, but was he wrong? I'll look at those PSUs. Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 04:24 JingleHell wrote:IIRC you weren't planning to OC the CPU, so a 2500k and Z68 motherboard aren't going to do you much good. Go H67 and an i5 without the -k suffix, unless you changed your mind on OCing. yea my buddy talked me into it lol
Well, theoretically you can, but you shouldn't. A cheap cooler like a Xigmatek Gaia or the Hyper 212 Evo is plenty for a moderate OC.
Why Z68 over P67? Do you need the features, or was it just on a stupidly low sale price? You don't need integrated graphics, SSD caching is kinda gimmicky for most people.
And don't forget a mechanical drive, unless you really expect to only need 120GB or are carrying over an HDD.
And actually, I'd get an aftermarket cooler even if I wasn't planning to OC, personally. The Intel box cooler... ugh. I'd rather attach a heatsink with duct tape.
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