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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 07 2012 13:14 GMT
#20321
On April 07 2012 22:11 micronesia wrote:
BTW I screwed up and meant to say I'm getting a 2500k for $180 instead of a 2400 lol


I knew what you meant, since we'd talked about it and there is no 2400k.
alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
April 07 2012 15:11 GMT
#20322
micronesia, microcenter has $50 off certain z68 motherboards if you buy a 2500k, so that would probably be the cheapest motherboard for you.

micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
April 07 2012 15:18 GMT
#20323
On April 08 2012 00:11 alQahira wrote:
micronesia, microcenter has $50 off certain z68 motherboards if you buy a 2500k, so that would probably be the cheapest motherboard for you.


I don't see any of these deals for April... only for the 2600k. Which ones were you referring to?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 07 2012 16:55 GMT
#20324
On April 07 2012 17:28 SolidSnoopy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys i'm working on a new build that will be primarily for gaming (in particular starcraft 2) and something that will last a few years. Here is what i'm working with so far:

Case: Rosewill Challenger Mid Tower Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153)
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514)
Processor: AMD FX-6100 Zambezi 3.3 Ghz (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103962)
Memory: 2x Corsair Vengance 8 gb ddr3 1600 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345)
Power Supply: Corsair series TX750 750W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021)
GPU: XFX HD6850 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150573)
HDD: Western Digital 500 GB Sata 3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136358)
WIndows 7 home premium

The price point is around where I would like this to stay at. I will most likely start with stock heat sink/fans. Please give me some feedback. Will all the parts even be compatible with one another (sorry i'm slightly new at this)?

Thanks!


Answer the questions in the OP... or we're all just going to assume you want to do it due to component selection even though you have no intention of doing it.

And I'm not sure if you're trolling or not if this is primarily for Starcraft II.

Bulldozer sucks, get a core i5 2500k and P67 / Z68 instead.

16gb of memory is pointless for gaming. Are you going to multi-box WoW? Probably not...

Doing CrossfireX with shitty 6850s is pointless, it is not necessary for Starcraft II and most other games at 1080p. 750w is also overkill for CrossfireX 6850. Downgrade to a 500w unit if you are not doing CrossfireX, a 650w if you are.

Use money saved to get a SSD or a 7850.

On April 07 2012 20:23 micronesia wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Thanks JingleHell and skyR, I made yet a few more updates to my list to try to finalize it:

processor: 2400k2500k $180 microcenter
mobo: $85 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HIRD50/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
case: $40 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ZM7YTA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
RAM: $39 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226249 (unless someone links me to a better deal for ram from a somewhat reputable company that I've actually heard of
SSD: $140 with promo code http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=FzkcUICjEeGLtX6WTPcdwA0&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16820147163
GPU: $140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150521
PSU: $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028
Cooler: $27 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

A couple of those prices assume mail in rebates but it isn't a large difference.

The key differences are I went to a (hopefully) better SSD, saved some money on the case, and saved some money on the psu/cooler

Still not sure what I'll do about the OS... would I be better off shelling out $100 for W7 now, or screwing around with w8 beta and delaying the problem?


Is the Samsung 830 really at $140? Because that's not going to last long =\

Besides the CX430v2, the rest of the series sort of sucks in terms of price. You can get Antec Earthwatts 650 for same $50 after mail in rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044

If you're open to buying from multiple retailers, you can get a better Mushkin kit for $40: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60640&promoid=1101

And you can get the Hyper 212+ for $23: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1101
Ficetool
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 17:44:32
April 07 2012 17:17 GMT
#20325
Hey guys,

currently I am thinking about building a new computer as my old one doesn't even manage to run Skyrim properly on low settings.

- My budget is around 1000€ which equals around 1200-1300$.
- I am not really sure about my gaming resolution as I need to run it quite low so my computer won't lag. Does my usual desktop resolution help anything here?
- I mostly use my computer for my gaming. Other stuff like writing mails too, of course ;-) But nothing that needs special equipment or power.
- Upgrade cycle so far is pretty pretty low as I often bought finished computersets from stores which made it hard to impossible to replace parts of the build.
- The time to actually build it would be from right now to sometime during the next month.
- I have never overclocked anything so far. If it is not too hard to do and nothing can actually be destroyed by me because I have no clue of hardware, then I might think of doing it. If you actually need to understand what you do: then no...no overclocking for me^^
- I don't need an OS. I already have Windows 7 32 bit. (Would it make sense to upgrade to 64 bit with a new system?)
- Using crossfire sounds interesting to me even though I wouldn_t know whether it makes more sense to get 2 cheaper cards or 1 really powerful one. I guess using crossfire would depend if it fits with the rest of the build or not?
- I live in Germany and will have to buy my parts here.

Now, as I am fully aware that you guys have better things to do than just do everything for me, I am more than willing to have a look for parts as well. The problem is: I literally have no knowledge of computer hardware whatsoever.
If you give me some advice where to look and what to look for though, I will most certainly have a look myself. However, with my current knowledge it just doesn't make any sense to look for myself.

Thank you very much for your time guys!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 07 2012 18:21 GMT
#20326
You can get a nice new monitor and a new computer capable of running games on that monitor well, for 1000 euros, so I'd just do that.

I didn't crosscheck prices with other retailers or look that hard, but as a general idea.

Intel Core i5-2400 - €164
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p688675_Intel-Core-i5-2400-4x-3-10GHz-So-1155-BOX.html

Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3V (with 7 series chipset for native USB3 / SATA3) - €62
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p793720_Gigabyte-GA-B75M-D3V-Intel-B75-So-1155-Dual-Channel-DDR3-mATX-Retail.html

Gigabyte HD 7850 - €224
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p793372_2048MB-Gigabyte-Radeon-HD-7850-OC-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-.html

TeamGroup 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - €30
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p681031_8GB-TeamGroup-Elite-DDR3-1333-DIMM-CL9-Dual-Kit.html

Crucial M4 128GB SSD (to run OS and programs) - €123
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p736264_128GB-Crucial-m4-SSD-CT128M4SSD2-2-5Zoll--6-4cm--SATA-6Gb-s-MLC-synchron.html

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB HDD (to store anything else) - €64
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p684828_500GB-Western-Digital-Caviar-Blue-WD5000AAKX-16MB-3-5Zoll--8-9cm--SATA-6Gb-s.html

LG CD / DVD burner - €14
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p738472_LG-Electronics-DVD-Brenner-GH22NS70-SATA-Schwarz-bulk.html

Super Flower Golden Green Pro 400W - €42
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p759503_400W-Super-Flower-Golden-Green-Pro-80plus-Gold.html

BitFenix Shinobi - €52
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p734345_BitFenix-Shinobi-USB-3-0-Midi-Tower-ohne-Netzteil-schwarz.html

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM - €78
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p725312_Microsoft-Windows-7-Home-Premium-SP1-64bit-Deutsch-SB-OEM.html

Asus VS229H - €136
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p765017_21-5Zoll--54-70cm--Asus-TFT--21-5Zoll--16-9-VS229H-4ms-LED--FULL-HD-DAH-bk-.html

You can easily get a better monitor; I just won't get something worse than that. The above includes an SSD and fairly premium components and features all around, and has the computational power to run whatever games fine.
Dimenus
Profile Joined August 2010
United States157 Posts
April 07 2012 18:56 GMT
#20327
Hey guys, I'm trying to decide on an SSD for a new build later this month. I've narrowed it down to these:

SSD Comparison

If you have experience with any of these SSDs any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? - John Maynard Keynes
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 07 2012 19:05 GMT
#20328
If you want Sandforce, there is no reason to consider anything but the Intel 520...
Southwards
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States49 Posts
April 07 2012 19:14 GMT
#20329
Part list permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/63pF
Part price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/63pF/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/63pF/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Memory Express)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme 4 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.88 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($87.29 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 1.25GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS-I ID ATX Mid Tower Case ($55.47 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($85.99 @ Vuugo)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222AL/BSBE DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1000.58
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated 2012-04-06 15:30 EDT-0400)

hey guys, this is what im working with right now, expected build date is end of the month. Rig is for gaming (SC2, dota2, LoL, Diablo 3, etc.) and some general work stuff (maybe a bit of light coding, nothing major).
few questions about my build, please though feel free to critique anything else:
- PSU i think is a little too big (wattage wise) for my setup but it's not something i'm very knowledgable about, therefore open to suggestions.
- CPU cooler seems a little expensive to me, I am planning on OC-ing, prb not on the first day I get it but it will happen eventually.
- If I can find enough money to spare in this build somewhere I wouldn't be opposed to a bigger SSD, but I do have lots of HDD space, so it's a bit of a luxury i think.

The timing of buying this may be pretty close with the release of the next gen of processors, although I don't know if they will be at a similar price range to the i5-2500k to fit within my $1000 budget.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 07 2012 19:19 GMT
#20330
...?
Dimenus
Profile Joined August 2010
United States157 Posts
April 07 2012 19:53 GMT
#20331
On April 08 2012 04:05 skyR wrote:
If you want Sandforce, there is no reason to consider anything but the Intel 520...



I was under the impression most up to date SSDs use the sandforce controller?
When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? - John Maynard Keynes
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 20:43:46
April 07 2012 20:39 GMT
#20332
On April 08 2012 04:53 Dimenus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 04:05 skyR wrote:
If you want Sandforce, there is no reason to consider anything but the Intel 520...



I was under the impression most up to date SSDs use the sandforce controller?


no, well yes... and no, weird question to answer. for example crucial and samsung. edit 3: i mean if you consider crucial m4 and samsung 830 "up to date" then no, they use their own controller.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
April 07 2012 21:35 GMT
#20333
Micronesia, here is the link to the microcenter catalog. http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/bd4b92bc#/bd4b92bc/27 Go to page 27 and it has the $50 off with a 2500k deal.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
April 07 2012 22:05 GMT
#20334
On April 08 2012 06:35 alQahira wrote:
Micronesia, here is the link to the microcenter catalog. http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/bd4b92bc#/bd4b92bc/27 Go to page 27 and it has the $50 off with a 2500k deal.

Ahh. What do you guys (skyR, Jingle, etc) think of those mobos on the bottom right of page 27? The ones labeled 50-off will obv be 50 dollars less than the price.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 07 2012 22:08 GMT
#20335
On April 08 2012 07:05 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 06:35 alQahira wrote:
Micronesia, here is the link to the microcenter catalog. http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/bd4b92bc#/bd4b92bc/27 Go to page 27 and it has the $50 off with a 2500k deal.

Ahh. What do you guys (skyR, Jingle, etc) think of those mobos on the bottom right of page 27? The ones labeled 50-off will obv be 50 dollars less than the price.


I'll defer to skyR, because he seems to keep up with existing lower and mid-range mobos more than I do. Or he's less lazy about checking them out. One of the two.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 07 2012 22:15 GMT
#20336
On April 08 2012 07:05 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 06:35 alQahira wrote:
Micronesia, here is the link to the microcenter catalog. http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/bd4b92bc#/bd4b92bc/27 Go to page 27 and it has the $50 off with a 2500k deal.

Ahh. What do you guys (skyR, Jingle, etc) think of those mobos on the bottom right of page 27? The ones labeled 50-off will obv be 50 dollars less than the price.


You can get the $35 dollar one. $210 dollars for a Z68 and -2500k is a steal.
twitch.tv/medrea
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
April 07 2012 22:20 GMT
#20337
On April 08 2012 07:15 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 07:05 micronesia wrote:
On April 08 2012 06:35 alQahira wrote:
Micronesia, here is the link to the microcenter catalog. http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/bd4b92bc#/bd4b92bc/27 Go to page 27 and it has the $50 off with a 2500k deal.

Ahh. What do you guys (skyR, Jingle, etc) think of those mobos on the bottom right of page 27? The ones labeled 50-off will obv be 50 dollars less than the price.


You can get the $35 dollar one. $210 dollars for a Z68 and -2500k is a steal.

I don't see any for 35 dollars pre or post 50 dollar discount...
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 22:26:47
April 07 2012 22:26 GMT
#20338
On the left side, the Gigabyte Z68AP-D3. For $35 I'd take it too:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2011/10/11/gigabyte-ga-z68ap-d3-review/1

edit: though really, it's $50 after the -$50 with a $15 rebate...not really $35.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 07 2012 22:29 GMT
#20339
Still a steal at $50.
twitch.tv/medrea
SparkSix
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada4 Posts
April 07 2012 22:29 GMT
#20340
ok so I have no idea what parts I need/ what they do but Id still like to build my own gaming comp because my friend built his own and is like "THIS IS THE MOST AMAZING THING EVER, U GOTTA DO IT TOO". So here I am, asking you guys for a build.

1. I'm willing to spend about 1100-1200 dollars (including shipping)

2. 1280x1024 (im using it for streaming tho so idk if that affects this)

3. As I said above Im using it for streaming and gaming

4. my upgrade cycle is prolly gonna be 2+ years

5. I plan on building it anytime from may - july

6. No im not gonna be overclocking it

7. No I dont need an operating system

8. No I dont plan to add another GPU

9. Im gonna be buying my parts from newegg
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