[EG MCSL] It's Gosu vs Millenium - Page 2
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On March 28 2012 23:20 HuKPOWA wrote: Another fanboy who gives stephano an excuse for ditching his team :\ Sad to see people make up excuses for him :\ Stephano is one of a kind. As an outsider you might have a feeling he is arrogant and some kind of a diva. So allow me to makes things clear : He is not. Illyes and Stephano are two different persons and sometimes they get mixed up, which is causing a lot of PR trouble. I'm going to quote Adelscott here and say that Stephano's persona (the player not the person) is created to look self-assured. That's what the person needs in order to win. He is a shy guy, at IPL3 he was denying autographs to people which should tell you something about the level of wierd he has attained. But Stephano needs that inner confidence in order to win. Stephano is not a team player, you will not see him advocate his team as the best one. Still Millenium is probably the best team for him because they allow him a certain freedom to do as he pleases because they know him well (he played for them when he was 14-ish). Stephano is like a lone ranger, a elit unit whose purpose is to wreak havoc without having to be monitored 24/7. | ||
Psyclon
Bulgaria2443 Posts
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States42259 Posts
On March 28 2012 23:43 Otolia wrote: Stephano is one of a kind. As an outsider you might have a feeling he is arrogant and some kind of a diva. So allow me to makes things clear : He is not. Illyes and Stephano are two different persons and sometimes they get mixed up, which is causing a lot of PR trouble. I'm going to quote Adelscott here and say that Stephano's persona (the player not the person) is created to look self-assured. That's what the person needs in order to win. He is a shy guy, at IPL3 he was denying autographs to people which should tell you something about the level of wierd he has attained. But Stephano needs that inner confidence in order to win. Stephano is not a team player, you will not see him advocate his team as the best one. Still Millenium is probably the best team for him because they allow him a certain freedom to do as he pleases because they know him well (he played for them when he was 14-ish). Stephano is like a lone ranger, a elit unit whose purpose is to wreak havoc without having to be monitored 24/7. No offense, but that sounds like a total cop out. If Stephano doesn't want to play in a team match, then have another player take his spot. At least the other player would show up and play, which increases the chance of Millenium winning that set from "impossible, due to forfeit" to "possible, if not probable". So what if Stephano is shy? Some people are. That's a given. That doesn't mean he should let down his fans and team by not showing up to a team match. It's not like if he plays, he has to sign a hundred autographs afterwards, and that's something he's not ready to do yet because of his personality. Again, Millenium should have four people who are willing to actually play the matches. I don't know if it's managerial incompetency or yet another controversial thing that Stephano in particular has done, but it's getting kind of old. (And don't get me wrong, if any player mirrors this same attitude or track record, I'll be just as quick to point out how sad that person is as well. It just so happens that Stephano has already done this before, not to mention other things in the past.) EDIT: Just to clarify, I hope Stephano has a reasonable excuse for not playing. However, in the past, Stephano and Millenium have forfeited for some of the most ridiculous reasons ever (like "not feeling like playing" or "wanting to sleep"). I guess we'll have to wait to hear what the reason was this time. On March 28 2012 15:16 RuMCaKe wrote: It wasn't one time he didn't show up for the match vs DDE, there was multiple times, each with DDE waiting for over an hour at a time after. We really didn't want to FF him, hes a great player. Sounds justified in awarding DDE the win. | ||
Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
On March 28 2012 23:43 Otolia wrote: Stephano is one of a kind. As an outsider you might have a feeling he is arrogant and some kind of a diva. So allow me to makes things clear : He is not. Illyes and Stephano are two different persons and sometimes they get mixed up, which is causing a lot of PR trouble. I'm going to quote Adelscott here and say that Stephano's persona (the player not the person) is created to look self-assured. That's what the person needs in order to win. He is a shy guy, at IPL3 he was denying autographs to people which should tell you something about the level of wierd he has attained. But Stephano needs that inner confidence in order to win. Stephano is not a team player, you will not see him advocate his team as the best one. Still Millenium is probably the best team for him because they allow him a certain freedom to do as he pleases because they know him well (he played for them when he was 14-ish). Stephano is like a lone ranger, a elit unit whose purpose is to wreak havoc without having to be monitored 24/7. ... what is this? So much silly in one post. If he isn't going to play team matches, then DON'T HAVE HIM PLAY TEAM MATCHES. But yeah, I guess denying autographs makes this ok. (what?????) | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On March 29 2012 00:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: No offense, but that sounds like a total cop out. If Stephano doesn't want to play in a team match, then have another player take his spot. At least the other player would show up and play, which increases the chance of Millenium winning that set from "impossible, due to forfeit" to "possible, if not probable". So what if Stephano is shy? Some people are. That's a given. That doesn't mean he should let down his fans and team by not showing up to a team match. It's not like if he plays, he has to sign a hundred autographs afterwards, and that's something he's not ready to do yet because of his personality. Again, Millenium should have four people who are willing to actually play the matches. I don't know if it's managerial incompetency or yet another controversial thing that Stephano in particular has done, but it's getting kind of old. (And don't get me wrong, if any player mirrors this same attitude or track record, I'll be just as quick to point out how sad that person is as well. It just so happens that Stephano has already done this before, not to mention other things in the past.) EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I hope Stephano has a reasonable excuse for not playing. However, in the past, Stephano and Millenium have forfeited for some of the stupidest reasons ever (like "not feeling like playing" or "wanting to sleep"). I guess we'll have to wait to hear what the reason was this time. And we are back to the debate on importance. Stephano being here for team games isn't as important for Millenium as you think it should be. I am not willing to discuss which point of view is better, which is right etc. I'm providing insights not defending him. Feel free to disregard them as silly like the poster below you, if however you wish to discuss this more at length, my PM box is always open - plus you get the nasty certitude of freaking me out when I see the new PM icon. PS : Starting your post by "No Offense" usually means you are about to say something which might upset me, if you think that way why say it ? On March 29 2012 00:10 Kira__ wrote: ... what is this? So much silly in one post. If he isn't going to play team matches, then DON'T HAVE HIM PLAY TEAM MATCHES. But yeah, I guess denying autographs makes this ok. (what?????) I'd like to answer you honestly but I'll get ban again if I do that because your whole post is a bait for rage. So because the people I love being with on TL convinced me I should shut up, I will. PS : If you read this salle, the last part was for you. | ||
iamperfection
United States9603 Posts
On March 28 2012 15:16 RuMCaKe wrote: It wasn't one time he didn't show up for the match vs DDE, there was multiple times, each with DDE waiting for over an hour at a time after. We really didn't want to FF him, hes a great player. @Elyvilon according to rum cake thats not the case it seems they tried several times to play. If thats the case it must have been something with stephano. | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On March 29 2012 00:22 iamperfection wrote: @Elyvilon according to rum cake thats not the case it seems they tried several times to play. If thats the case it must have been something with stephano. Oh. That's unfortunate. | ||
revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
If Stephano could not make the game, he should have notified his team and his opponent ahead of time. Sometimes you have a clash but this must be communicated. | ||
Nelz
309 Posts
On March 29 2012 00:41 revel8 wrote: No-one likes a no-show. This does happen though. Let's not pretend that it is only Stephano who does not turn up. Kas and DdDoro missed their games last round in EG MCSL. Millenium are only in this Tournament due to a couple of Team's cancelling participation. Stephano himself has already won 6 games out of 6 (including Ace matches and the rescheduled JYP games) for his team in EG MCSL prior to this no-show. Over the course of the entire MCSL series, Stephano will prove much more beneficial to his team's chances of finishing amongst the prize-money. If Stephano could not make the game, he should have notified his team and his opponent ahead of time. Sometimes you have a clash but this must be communicated. Games against JYP were played ? | ||
revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Well Stephano played JYP last week. Cannot remember exact day, maybe Tuesday before MLG. Stephano was streaming then he hit InControl on the Ladder. Then Stephano played 4 custom games against JYP at JYP's request. I assumed it was EG MCSL. These games against JYP were with InControl, Idra, DeMuslim, Bling and Machine all observing at various times. These games between JYP and Stephano were simultaneously streamed by JYP, InControl and Stephano! So Stephano played 4 consecutive games against JYP and won all 4. I assumed 2 were the rescheduled Master's Cup games. Maybe not. Millenium had won 3-0 already against EG so the outcome was moot for JYP - Stephano in terms of EG MCSL. It was only an hour or so after these games, that InControl and Idra heavily praised Stephano on that week's Inside the Game show. | ||
Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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Rube_Juice
Canada348 Posts
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KoDo
United States683 Posts
On March 28 2012 12:44 Malstriks wrote: ostojiy probably made sure dde got the forfeit win for his opponent showing up late this made me lol | ||
Nelz
309 Posts
On March 29 2012 02:06 Azarkon wrote: Hmm - Stephano disappeared after MLG. AFAIK no one has said where he is. He had a fall-out with Millennium's manager just prior to the tournament over the Millennium Cup, but wasn't fazed about it during the ITG interview. I think there's a bit of drama boiling. When were these games played? He's in england with Bling, and just start to ladder after 4 days of inactivity. Games were played last week, IMO, he just forgot to play these games, that would not be surprising. | ||
iamperfection
United States9603 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On March 29 2012 00:41 revel8 wrote: No-one likes a no-show. This does happen though. Let's not pretend that it is only Stephano who does not turn up. Kas and DdDoro missed their games last round in EG MCSL. Beastyqt posted in the Empire vs SlayerS thread that Kas did play and beat Ryung 2-1, but there was something wrong, I think they played on wrong maps and Kas wasn't able to play again, so that's a bit different than a complete no-show. | ||
Quakie
Norway725 Posts
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