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On March 25 2012 08:03 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 07:55 MrZentor wrote:On March 25 2012 07:49 Alderan wrote:On March 25 2012 07:44 risk.nuke wrote: Btw townies, do you know how sad it is that the most pro-town person besides myself is the third party. Townies do you understand waht that means? Can you fathom how lousy you're playing. I wish the mafia would kill me tonight you so I don't have to play with you useless lurkers, morons and dumb-posters anymore. I read this in the voice of a 13 year old on Call of Duty. Leave the trolling to WBG. Duuuuuuude don't be a killjoy, everyone can troll and be happy. This IS Game of Trolls, anyway.
But nobody is nearly as good as trolling as you are.
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WIFOM: Attack of the clones
On March 23 2012 23:08 Risen wrote:Then I made this post. Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 13:45 Risen wrote: Yeah sorry about that, wasn't thinking entirely. The rest of my analysis and anything further will be compiled into spoilers. Having said this, I'm going to place my vote on mattchew and suggest a vig hit on acro for now. This is by no means my final position. Mattchew just screams scum to me right now. Also, a different possible vig hit imo is Lyter, since all he is doing is lurking. Nicolas is out of the game, btw. Pretty clear to me that anyone who was scum wouldn't find the game boring, ergo he's almost confirmed town to me.
Going to sleep or something soon. Might pop back in later if I'm still awake. I'll be on in the morning, though for sure.
##vote Mattchew With supporting evidence in the form of... Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 07:05 Mattchew wrote: Hey Risen, once again you (like so many others) post vague things about people as if they have meaning. When you say something like "what he has posted is quality in my opinion" why don't you actually point out what is quality and why instead of just calling it quality.
btw i doubt that i am focusing on one guy when I never voted him, have made a case on someone else, and actually voted for a third person Which, to me, looks like someone scrambling to discredit me. Then again, someone who is town would be just as freaked out. My vote would still be on him had you not made that horrible, HORRIBLE post. How about instead of saying, oh hey his analysis is weak, you say, oh hey his analysis is weak for X, Y, Z reasons? I'll tell you why, because you're scum just looking to discredit me quickly. Okay. Fine. I have pointed out exactly why your analysis is weak. At least, in the case of me. Frankly, the reason why I didn't post it in the first place is because there is SO MUCH weak analysis (at this point it hadn't been bad and ficticious like Sinensis/risk.nuke's was): you have 4 pages of filter and it is ALL just as weak as your case on me. Stating reasons for everything would take DAYS and is frankly not worth it. It's not a scumtell to refuse to wade through pages and pages of trash.
Yeah, I shit up the thread with all my posts and should have spoilered them into one post, but you're construing that as mafia play? You're attempting to say that someone who is posting analysis (whether I went about it in the correct manner) is playing scummy? Then what is town to you? Policy lynch someone who is posting analysis that can easily be looked back at day2,3, etc? Or lynch someone who is contributing nothing useful and is just tunneling the shit out of Mattchew (then calling out people who vote for him with "shoddy reasoning" that he never points out)...
NOWHERE did I say that was Mafia play. I said it was BAD play and it ABSOLUTELY 100% IS. I never thought you were scum and to be honest still don't. You're just a terrible horrible atrocious townie. I think it's telling that the newest 3 pages of posts are basically the ENTIRE TOWN telling you you're horrible. I'm sorry to tell you, but it's true (no, I'm not trying to be liked here, just convince you that I am town). Btw, looking back at your pages and pages of dross is not going to help anyone on day 2 or 3.
I was wrong earlier. You don't need to get off Mattchew, you just need to start up the wagon a little bit and then discredit anyone who agrees that Mattchew's play was scummy.
WTFBBQ WHAT AM I READING? I spent the entire first day trying to convince people to vote for Mattchew. How the fuck am I in any position to discredit people who agree his play is scummy. I stand by my conviction that his play WAS scummy.
I think Mattchew overreacted to your focus on him if he's town and he's going to have to be looked at by someone. You can sit back and say, "oh I don't like your reasoning. You're doing that for the wrong reason." etc, etc, etc and bully people off of him and onto another wagon.
Do I really need to point out how topsy turvy this reasoning is? If Mattchew is indeed town and were to get lynched, I would be PRIME SUSPECT numero UNO. I was willing to TAKE THAT RISK, because I thought (I am reconsidering, see my analysis post this night. At the very least Gumshoe has passed him by on the scumometer) he was scum. Why would I try to bully people off his bandwagon. I spent the whole day trying to bully people ONTO his bandwagon. That failed, so I voted Nicolas in the hope of lynching a guaranteed modkill, and went to bed.
So Mattchew, maybe you're town and acro is using you as his "oh I contributed and I'm covering my tracks by calling the other people who vote for him bad" it's an OMGUS waiting to happen (he actually did OMGUS me with his mentioned post). Then again, maybe you're scum and acro's plan for people to get off you isn't going to work out and you're lynched. I don't want to help acro in either of those situations, I want him dead.
WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING?
You list 2 out of the 4 possible cases and build some crock of bull WIFOM around it. You completely ignore the possibility that:
1. Acro is town and has a legit scumread on Mattchew. 2. Acro is town and so is Mattchew and Acro is barking up the wrong tree. Focusing only on 3. Acro is scum and is blaming an innocent townie 4. Acro is scum and is covering (wtf, where did I cover for Mattchew) his scumbuddy.
ALL 4 cases can be WIFOM'd into the EXACT situation that occured. All I can give you is my word that it is either case 1 or 2. However, the fact that you IGNORE the perfectly viable possibility that I am TOWN leads you to completely false conclusions.
I think mattchew is a prime target for checking tonight, but not for lynching.
Given that he was not lynched, I agree with checking him. I believe I suggested that earlier tonight.
As always, feel free to point out why you disagree with this post with a reasoned analysis. You'll note that I haven't called a single person out in this thread when they were suspicious of me if they had their opinion backed up. I probably messed up somewhere in here, and you can point out where I did so, and I can respond with a reasoned post explaining more thoroughly anything you have issue with. That's how town plays, that's how town wins. We post and post and post and explain ourselves until we see someone who's fucked up their web of lies.
Acro, your posting doesn't have any substance. That makes this an easy decision for me since I never actually placed my vote on Mattchew.
##vote Acrofales My posts have had MOUNTAINS of substance. For a newbie I think I am doing pretty damned well. I just hope I have managed to convince you not to shoot a contributing townie.
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Christ, I think I just gave myself RSI writing that.
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I have cooled my jets a bit towards Alderan and I now believe that risk.nuke is SCUM (note the capitals).
I wanted to get that out before the day post. I'll expand on it later, but other things are getting in my way of devoting a chunk of time to case building until I get the day post for SNMMIX out there. I'll be sure to finish it before bed tonight, so stay tuned.
Some if-then statements to note.
If risk.nuke is scum then Greymist is likely town. If Greymist is scum then gumshoe is likely town.
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Btw, I don't give a shit anymore who is town and who is mafia. I am voting for Risen on day 2 on general principle.
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I can't believe he made me reply to all that dross in a rush and isn't even around to read it. I hate him with a vengeance and promise to policy-lynch him from now on in any game we play in together.
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So everyone is out in force to watch the hunger games, and since that's sold out they swapped to the movie I was going to see 21 jump street. I'm back until 7ish now yayyyy. My previous post stands, I just get to be here when I'm shot now.
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On March 25 2012 08:42 Acrofales wrote: I can't believe he made me reply to all that dross in a rush and isn't even around to read it. I hate him with a vengeance and promise to policy-lynch him from now on in any game we play in together.
Don't worry, I'm here. I read it.
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Hey guys. Anybody know whether the clock is going forwards or backwards tonight? If it's going forwards I should really get to bed.
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On March 25 2012 08:43 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 08:42 Acrofales wrote: I can't believe he made me reply to all that dross in a rush and isn't even around to read it. I hate him with a vengeance and promise to policy-lynch him from now on in any game we play in together. Don't worry, I'm here. I read it. Okay. Please don't vigi shoot me. G'night.
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On March 25 2012 08:48 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 08:43 Risen wrote:On March 25 2012 08:42 Acrofales wrote: I can't believe he made me reply to all that dross in a rush and isn't even around to read it. I hate him with a vengeance and promise to policy-lynch him from now on in any game we play in together. Don't worry, I'm here. I read it. Okay. Please don't vigi shoot me. G'night.
If I was a vigi I wouldn't be telling people to lynch you tomorrow. Gnight.
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On March 25 2012 08:36 Acrofales wrote: Btw, I don't give a shit anymore who is town and who is mafia. I am voting for Risen on day 2 on general principle.
I understand this, I did something similar last game with a lurker who ninja voted. So, if you honestly think that Risen is mafia because of his posting, then go for it. But if you really aren't sure, then I ask you to cool off, keep an open mind, and be constructive day 2. Just because you are in conflict with Risen doesn't mean you can't contribute on other topics.
Risen, please take some of the emotion out of your posts. You are not useful to the town posting as you have been. Take a wider view, be objective.
We have a long day ahead and we are behind more than normal because of that modkill. However, we are far from being in a bad position. With some clear thinking and a few persuasive cases, we can get this town back on track.
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I really hope he has access to internet, so he can make the night post.
I'm so anxious. :/
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We are shooting evantrees
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On March 25 2012 09:00 SamuelLJackson wrote: We are shooting evantrees
Good shot imo. Would have preferred Lyter.
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On March 25 2012 09:06 Risen wrote:Good shot imo. Would have preferred Lyter. Evantress had a wagon going on him, knowing his flip will give us information from that wagon.
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sigh, sorry you felt the need to do that failing again.
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On March 25 2012 09:09 evantrees wrote: sigh, sorry you felt the need to do that failing again.
Don't lurk next time as town (if you flip town)
On March 25 2012 09:08 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 09:06 Risen wrote:On March 25 2012 09:00 SamuelLJackson wrote: We are shooting evantrees Good shot imo. Would have preferred Lyter. Evantress had a wagon going on him, knowing his flip will give us information from that wagon.
Makes sense.
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On March 25 2012 09:08 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 09:06 Risen wrote:On March 25 2012 09:00 SamuelLJackson wrote: We are shooting evantrees Good shot imo. Would have preferred Lyter. Evantress had a wagon going on him, knowing his flip will give us information from that wagon.
He was lurking and providing nothing.... of course there was a wagon on him...
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On March 25 2012 09:09 evantrees wrote: sigh, sorry you felt the need to do that failing again. Perhaps you should stop signing up for games if you have no interest in playing them then.
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