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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
February 21 2012 23:23 GMT
#421
On February 22 2012 07:25 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 07:22 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On February 22 2012 07:14 redFF wrote:
inb4 lying about claim, doesn't matter, its fairly easy to confirm a tracker, and you don't lynch a claimed blue day 1, especially a strong one like tracker.

Cool cool. So how do you propose this works where you claim tracker and can confirm it? You claim your tracks every night? I can't wait for the "I was roleblocked" to come out D2 like it almost certainly will, and you could also claim that you saw nothing while tracking someone which is null unless they counterclaim that they had an action, at which point you out a blue.

But lets look at it from the if-you-are-a-townie perspective. Now you need to claim your targets everyday and what you saw which will out blues and if you don't claim it we can't believe you. If you claim roleblock we can't know if you are telling the truth.

So congrats, your "easy to confirm" role screws us more than helps us. Now you put us in a kill you to keep the game straightforward scenario since we can't discern your real alignment.

heh, if i claimed roleblocked erryday then feel free to lynch me.


I don't know what else you would want me to do? Not claim and let town lynch a powerful blue role day 1?


Wait so if you claim RB D2 we should lynch you? Wouldn't mafia just RB you for a night and get a free kill?
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
February 21 2012 23:29 GMT
#422
On February 22 2012 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 07:25 redFF wrote:
On February 22 2012 07:22 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On February 22 2012 07:14 redFF wrote:
inb4 lying about claim, doesn't matter, its fairly easy to confirm a tracker, and you don't lynch a claimed blue day 1, especially a strong one like tracker.

Cool cool. So how do you propose this works where you claim tracker and can confirm it? You claim your tracks every night? I can't wait for the "I was roleblocked" to come out D2 like it almost certainly will, and you could also claim that you saw nothing while tracking someone which is null unless they counterclaim that they had an action, at which point you out a blue.

But lets look at it from the if-you-are-a-townie perspective. Now you need to claim your targets everyday and what you saw which will out blues and if you don't claim it we can't believe you. If you claim roleblock we can't know if you are telling the truth.

So congrats, your "easy to confirm" role screws us more than helps us. Now you put us in a kill you to keep the game straightforward scenario since we can't discern your real alignment.

heh, if i claimed roleblocked erryday then feel free to lynch me.


I don't know what else you would want me to do? Not claim and let town lynch a powerful blue role day 1?


Wait so if you claim RB D2 we should lynch you? Wouldn't mafia just RB you for a night and get a free kill?

That was basically my point.
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Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 21 2012 23:30 GMT
#423
On February 22 2012 07:25 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 07:22 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On February 22 2012 07:14 redFF wrote:
inb4 lying about claim, doesn't matter, its fairly easy to confirm a tracker, and you don't lynch a claimed blue day 1, especially a strong one like tracker.

Cool cool. So how do you propose this works where you claim tracker and can confirm it? You claim your tracks every night? I can't wait for the "I was roleblocked" to come out D2 like it almost certainly will, and you could also claim that you saw nothing while tracking someone which is null unless they counterclaim that they had an action, at which point you out a blue.

But lets look at it from the if-you-are-a-townie perspective. Now you need to claim your targets everyday and what you saw which will out blues and if you don't claim it we can't believe you. If you claim roleblock we can't know if you are telling the truth.

So congrats, your "easy to confirm" role screws us more than helps us. Now you put us in a kill you to keep the game straightforward scenario since we can't discern your real alignment.

heh, if i claimed roleblocked erryday then feel free to lynch me.


I don't know what else you would want me to do? Not claim and let town lynch a powerful blue role day 1?


You do realize that you are probabliy going to be roleblocked every night rigth ? I mean, if you really are blue, scum has the choice of roleblocking a tracker, or randomly roleblocking into town. I would not hesitate much if I were them. Plus this could get you lynched.

To be honest, you not being roleblocked would be a even bigger scum tell than you being roleblocked, because there no reason to not roleblock you. But then, its WIFOM discutions all day.

I'm see what you intended to do with your claim, but if you are a tracker, all you've achieved is to give scum valuable information while town get nothing out of this. I hope you are not a tracker.

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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 21 2012 23:46 GMT
#424
On February 22 2012 07:09 redFF wrote:
what, jackal said he thought toad was scum, i think jackal is a good scumhunter, i have similar thoughts, i post why i think toad is scum, jackal says he never thought toad was scum, i call him a wily old fox.

No you don't.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 21 2012 23:47 GMT
#425
Jackal

would you kill redFF right now if you had a gun?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 21 2012 23:54 GMT
#426
Okay yeah, I went back and reread redFF's filter - I don't believe the claim. He's spent too long being wishy-washy about his reads, pushing a policy lynch he didn't even believe in and bickering for me to comfortably lynch anyone else.

##Vote: redFF
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 21 2012 23:57 GMT
#427
redFF if you want to complain about other players being obnoxious then don't spam and insult people in the same breath. If you have a problem with people playing mafia this way, set an example by acting right.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 22 2012 01:31 GMT
#428
This is my current stance
redFF
Pretty much everything he has done so far has been to the detriment of town. If we were to follow his lead on a policy lynch that would be awful. Kitaman27 made a valid point that he was contradicting his old opinions and he responded very aggressively and unhelpfully. He has been spamming the thread with insults and one liners and he already has a 5 page filter. His claim is not a town-move. As a town tracker claiming on day1 with 24 hours til the deadline with only 5 votes is ridiculous. If mafia has a roleblocker they can block him.
On February 22 2012 07:25 redFF wrote:
heh, if i claimed roleblocked erryday then feel free to lynch me.

If that happens, then he says we should lynch him. He also tries to defend himself by saying that we should not be lynching a blue power role, if he is scum then this gives him a free ride this for some time. Since he would know his team-mates actions he could easily provide a correct visit to verify his claim. This move makes no sense for town because scum would have a blue kill or that they could roleblock, and then get lynched for not being able to support his claim. Unless we get a good target lynching redFF look to be the best play.
##Vote redFF

I have an 8 hour day tomorrow and i will not be on again until about 7:00 pm in the UK. This should be about 2-3 hours before the lynch.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
February 22 2012 01:37 GMT
#429
Why did I subject myself to read this fucking nonsense. Do I have to say this? Role does not equal alignment. Redff claiming his role in hopes to confirm his alignment is horseshit. In an unknown setup and him claiming that there may be multi target abilities the chances of mafia having a role to find said abilities is just as within reason as the town.

He then states that if he is roleblocked to lynch him, but says its not optimal to lynch claimed blues? Contradiction and sounds like hes just finding any reason to stay alive.

This level of play is so insanely bad that it makes me sad. He knows all this and yet still does the play to create a total shit fest of a thread and does not in anyway create a pro town environment.

As for syllo.

Get off my nuts. 5 hours is never enough information to actually commit to a read especially given my horrible ability to differentiate between bad play and bad scum. Find other straw men to go burn.

##vote redff
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
February 22 2012 01:43 GMT
#430
On February 22 2012 08:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 22 2012 07:25 redFF wrote:
On February 22 2012 07:22 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On February 22 2012 07:14 redFF wrote:
inb4 lying about claim, doesn't matter, its fairly easy to confirm a tracker, and you don't lynch a claimed blue day 1, especially a strong one like tracker.

Cool cool. So how do you propose this works where you claim tracker and can confirm it? You claim your tracks every night? I can't wait for the "I was roleblocked" to come out D2 like it almost certainly will, and you could also claim that you saw nothing while tracking someone which is null unless they counterclaim that they had an action, at which point you out a blue.

But lets look at it from the if-you-are-a-townie perspective. Now you need to claim your targets everyday and what you saw which will out blues and if you don't claim it we can't believe you. If you claim roleblock we can't know if you are telling the truth.

So congrats, your "easy to confirm" role screws us more than helps us. Now you put us in a kill you to keep the game straightforward scenario since we can't discern your real alignment.

heh, if i claimed roleblocked erryday then feel free to lynch me.


I don't know what else you would want me to do? Not claim and let town lynch a powerful blue role day 1?


Wait so if you claim RB D2 we should lynch you? Wouldn't mafia just RB you for a night and get a free kill?

That was basically my point.


Well, then this is a death he will justly deserve.

##Unvote: rebirthoflegend
##Vote: redff
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 22 2012 01:46 GMT
#431
I mean, I guess I'm a little worried how little resistance this lynch has...anyone else getting this feeling?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
February 22 2012 01:49 GMT
#432
This wagon is rolling pretty easily >.>
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 22 2012 01:51 GMT
#433
On February 22 2012 10:49 Blazinghand wrote:
This wagon is rolling pretty easily >.>


you say this after being the last person to vote him.

lul
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
February 22 2012 01:52 GMT
#434
An easy-rolling wagon doesn't negate the fact that he's scum.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 22 2012 01:55 GMT
#435
On February 22 2012 10:52 Blazinghand wrote:
An easy-rolling wagon doesn't negate the fact that he's scum.


cool, you possess basic reasoning skills.

anything else you want to point out for us while you're here?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
February 22 2012 01:55 GMT
#436
This is a game of mafia!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
February 22 2012 02:03 GMT
#437
On February 22 2012 10:55 Blazinghand wrote:
This is a game of mafia!


WBG: Oh thank you blazinghand you are so helpful
Me: no problem man, any time
WBG: Seriously I'd like buy you sangwhiches and stuff. I like walks on the beach
Me: hey man that's kinda crossing the line I'm not really into-
WBG: DONT YOU LOVE ME???
*click*
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 22 2012 02:07 GMT
#438
On February 22 2012 11:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 10:55 Blazinghand wrote:
This is a game of mafia!


WBG: Oh thank you blazinghand you are so helpful
Me: no problem man, any time
WBG: Seriously I'd like buy you sangwhiches and stuff. I like walks on the beach
Me: hey man that's kinda crossing the line I'm not really into-
WBG: DONT YOU LOVE ME???
*click*


I'm so glad I can smurf by logging into your account and posting this useless shit
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
February 22 2012 02:11 GMT
#439
On February 22 2012 11:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 11:03 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 22 2012 10:55 Blazinghand wrote:
This is a game of mafia!


WBG: Oh thank you blazinghand you are so helpful
Me: no problem man, any time
WBG: Seriously I'd like buy you sangwhiches and stuff. I like walks on the beach
Me: hey man that's kinda crossing the line I'm not really into-
WBG: DONT YOU LOVE ME???
*click*


I'm so glad I can smurf by logging into your account and posting this useless shit


Yeah I dunno why you keep talking to yourself, or log into your smurf to post fake conversations of you talking to you
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
February 22 2012 02:11 GMT
#440
On February 22 2012 11:11 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 11:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 22 2012 11:03 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 22 2012 10:55 Blazinghand wrote:
This is a game of mafia!


WBG: Oh thank you blazinghand you are so helpful
Me: no problem man, any time
WBG: Seriously I'd like buy you sangwhiches and stuff. I like walks on the beach
Me: hey man that's kinda crossing the line I'm not really into-
WBG: DONT YOU LOVE ME???
*click*


I'm so glad I can smurf by logging into your account and posting this useless shit


Yeah I dunno why you keep talking to yourself, or log into your smurf to post fake conversations of you talking to you


Or rather, *you* dunno why you keep talking to yourself. And by you I mean I.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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